who is the luckier musician: Ringo Starr vs Richard Carpenter?

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Ringo Starr: replacement drummer for the beetles
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Richard Carpenter: mediocre song writer and band leader who just so happened to be the brother of one of the top 3 female singers of all time.

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Ringo knew what was up. Dick is an accomplished songwriter and composer in his own right, and I enjoy his piano. I can't choose.
 
I think Richard used Karen as his personal cum dumpster for the majority of her short life, and got away it with simply because it was simultaneously too scandalous and scandalizing for anyone to investigate without the story quickly being buried.

If we're measuring pure "luck", all those nights Richard got lucky from 1954-onward have to add up to more than anorexia. I always saw Ringo's good fortune as balancing out having been born looking like Tigger from Winnie the Pooh.
 
dick is an accomplished songwriter and composer in his own right
maybe this belongs in Unpopular views about music but i find most of the songs he wrote to be just mediocre but were elevated by virtue of having Karen sing them. if it wasn't for her no one would know who he is or really care about his songs.
 
maybe this belongs in Unpopular views about music but i find most of the songs he wrote to be just mediocre but were elevated by virtue of having Karen sing them. if it wasn't for her no one would know who he is or really care about his songs.
It's the same for many songwriters, though. If no one buys your work, the stories go untold. No one cares for Bernie without Elton.
 
I have heard this before too, but what is the actual source on it? Just word-of-mouth gossip or something more concrete?
i remember karen and richard were doing an interview with some radio jockey and he ambushed them live on air accusing them of it. i don't know if it was the origin of it though. can't find the recording of it, but i know they played it in a documentary about her from around 2016-17.
 
Lars Ulrich

Kirk Hammet was luckier

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Ringo is talented, and was a good match for the group. Pete didn't die or whatever, they just didn't like him, and fired him. What are you, a teenage girl in 1962?

The Carpenters fucking suck save for Karen's magical voice. Obviously Dick is the lucky one.

Pete Best couldn't keep time. When Ringo joined, he had more professional experience as a session musician than any of the Beatles. They were impressed by him *at the time.*
 

He's a mediocrity who is only famous because Dave Mustaine is a narcissist and a violent drunk. Just about any guitarist in the 80s could have done what he did on Metallica's albums. Lars is not a particularly good drummer, but his songwriting is an essential part of Metallica's sound.
 
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