Not Just Bikes / r/fuckcars / Urbanists / New Urbanism / Car-Free / Anti-Car - People and grifters who hate personal transport, freedom, cars, roads, suburbs, and are obsessed with city planning and urban design

[Yamamura]

Yeah, the guy says in one of the screenshots "I think I was still a kid... (and I couldn't read English)". So this person is likely not even from America but seethes so much about American car use that they're making a game about it.

Half of the comments bitching about America and cars on youtube aren't even American, but are Europeans complaining about a country they don't live in.

So it's supposed to be America but they still use bong terminology like "Car Park" and half the cars look like stuff I'd see on old British sitcoms.

You had one job.

He also forgot to make them SUVs and pickup trucks which urbanists hate so much. Instead there are only 2 generic car sprites, a Cadillac style rocket fin car from the 50s or a BMW Isetta.

Corrected there is a third car sprite I missed.

They're making a video game:

Being completely honest on my own observations from just looking at the screenshots and trailers. As a game it looks OK. It just looks like a generic Tycoon game from the 90s/2000s. Is it going to do well? Probably not outside of the few autists willing to play it. The problem is he's banking this on this gimmick of marketing it to fuckcars and urbanists, who have short attention spans within their own cult. So from what I understand about the gameplay loop it's basically just rollercoaster Tycoon except instead of building rides you drag and drop parking lots which generate money. It just feels like this sort of thing has been done before.

I would say the same thing if someone made an anti-urbanist Tycoon game called "Pod Farmer" about building communist block apartments, that it's just a gimmick. Marketing to Fuckcars is a mistake, they only feature something for long enough, until it stops being useful to them and then throws it to the wayside when the next thing comes up.

 

[Sargon's wife's son]

You know I see why these people don't like national socialism Hitler built the autobahn Hitler wanted everyone to have their own cars anyone driving personal transport therefore is literally worse than Hitler


also never point out to these people that every single high speed rail project in the United states has more graft then anything in U.S. history.
It's like government corruption and massive crime epidemics in this country just don't exist

 

[Xarpho's Return]

You know I see why these people don't like national socialism Hitler built the autobahn Hitler wanted everyone to have their own cars anyone driving personal transport therefore is literally worse than Hitler

The autobahn was actually one of Weimar Germany's good ideas, it was just adopted by Hitler.

Meanwhile, Hitler wanted stuff like a luxury broad-gauge railroad running between cities, and a much grander plan for Berlin. Out of context, Germania looks like exactly the city urbanists claim they want. Turns out totalitarians really do think alike.

 

[Ravier Xavenblood]

The autobahn was actually one of Weimar Germany's good ideas, it was just adopted by Hitler.

Meanwhile, Hitler wanted stuff like a luxury broad-gauge railroad running between cities, and a much grander plan for Berlin. Out of context, Germania looks like exactly the city urbanists claim they want. Turns out totalitarians really do think alike.

Germania never would have worked because Berlin's water table is super low.

 

[FILTH Tourist]

Being completely honest on my own observations from just looking at the screenshots and trailers. As a game it looks OK. It just looks like a generic Tycoon game from the 90s/2000s. Is it going to do well? Probably not outside of the few autists willing to play it.

I might be one of those autists. I like the retro art direction and I have a soft spot for casual tycoon games. Depending on the price I might pick it up.

The problem is he's banking this on this gimmick of marketing it to fuckcars and urbanists, who have short attention spans within their own cult. So from what I understand about the gameplay loop it's basically just rollercoaster Tycoon except instead of building rides you drag and drop parking lots which generate money. It just feels like this sort of thing has been done before.

This is what I am curious about. From the steam page the entire game is building parking lots and structures, and from the build tab in the screenshots you would have options to decorate them and make them look nice. It's not a bad idea and watching cars fill up and leave parking lots efficiently would definitely tickle my tism. But it really feels like the guy made the game first and then went "Oh shit, who do I sell this to" and picked r/fuckcars because they have a large following and tweaked his game a little so it fits their narrative. Even though the entire point of the game is building efficient and profitable parking lots (which goes against their narrative that parking lots are useless and don't make money)

If it was a r/fuckcars game from the ground up then it should be about buying parking lots and converting them into parks and multi-use buildings with good public transport/bike access (even then I might still check it out)

I would say the same thing if someone made an anti-urbanist Tycoon game called "Pod Farmer" about building communist block apartments, that it's just a gimmick. Marketing to Fuckcars is a mistake, they only feature something for long enough, until it stops being useful to them and then throws it to the wayside when the next thing comes up.

"Pod Farmer" can work as a game. I would definitely buy a game where you are a Soviet slumlord building and managing housing blocks, even more so if it has a really good building mechanic that let's me create some really cool brutalist buildings.
The core issue, you need to market your game to autists like me that love tycoon games. Trying to cater a game to a political movement of any strip is retarded because:

• Even though the movement is large, only a small fraction plays those type of games.
• Making your game tied to a movement alienates players who would have gotten that game but are against that movement.

 

[Yamamura]

This video made me chuckle a little. A cyclist almost gets hit by a train because he ran across the tracks as it was approaching.

Which goes to show that it doesn't matter what vehicle it is (car, train, etc), cyclists are just stupid around anything around them and pose a danger to the safety of themselves and others. They keep blaming anything, but themselves for not exercising more caution. If they get hit by a car it's because its the drivers fault for not predicting the bike was going to blow past a stop sign. If they hit a pedestrian it's because the person walking didn't get out of the way in time.

The train driver had to apply the emergency brake which is potentially hazardous to people on board.

 

[Xarpho's Return]

It's not a bad idea and watching cars fill up and leave parking lots efficiently would definitely tickle my tism.

The whole idea of /r/fuckcars is that parking lots and cars are inefficient and scheming by oil/car executives, so if this guy did his research he wouldn't be full in "muh oil industry" and /r/fuckcars.

 

[Kyria the Great]

My ultimate question for r/Fuckcars is if Cars are so inefficient, then why has the whole world gone for cars instead of rail? Is the whole world captive by the oil industry or is it more that Its the best direct way to get exactly where you want?

 

[TowinKarz]

My ultimate question for r/Fuckcars is if Cars are so inefficient, then why has the whole world gone for cars instead of rail? Is the whole world captive by the oil industry or is it more that Its the best direct way to get exactly where you want?

Same reason every Utopist cites for failure of their Utopia to come despite being the obvious solution:

A combination of people being too dumb and institutions being too corrupt.

It's why so many of them are, aspire to be, or eventually turn communist.... the only way to fix that pesky free will and intuitional rot that holds up their dreams, obviously, is mass force and collectivization so you CAN'T defy your betters.

 

[Yamamura]

Is the whole world captive by the oil industry

Unironically this is what they believe. The oil companies are basically their Jews. They are an all knowing all powerful group that hides in the shadows manipulating every facet of life.

 

[Lobster Cult High Priest]

Same reason every Utopist cites for failure of their Utopia to come despite being the obvious solution:

A combination of people being too dumb and institutions being too corrupt.

It's why so many of them are, aspire to be, or eventually turn communist.... the only way to fix that pesky free will and intuitional rot that holds up their dreams, obviously, is mass force and collectivization so you CAN'T defy your betters.

Now how do we get the Fuck Cars people to start blaming Jews for car infrastructure (Dodge brothers). Make it seem like they could have their bike urbanism Utopia if we only nuked Tel Aviv

 

[IAmNotAlpharius]

Is this guy their anti-Christ?

Also I wonder what their opinion on Top Gear is.

I was thinking of examples of why I don't like 4-way stops, specifically people who don't know how to handle them, and guess what my most recent experience with that was!

I pull up to a 4-way stop, it's the car across from me's go. Out of nowhere, a cyclist (no helmet) blows through the stop sign to my right (the other car's left) and the other car has to slam on his brakes to not hit this faggot.

Huh! Weird! A cyclist with no mind for safety or rules of the road? Weird!

I like how they’re basically just Calvin’s dad from Calvin and Hobbes but 100% serious.

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The one city I’ve seen that is closest to their 15 minute city, has free bus rides, lots of bike infrastructure, etc, is Provo Ut. The buses are free because they’re paid for by the local universities one of them being outright ran by the Mormon church. Also I assume Mormons like cycling so no surprise on that front. But it appears to me that this only could happen if there’s high trust and social cohesion. Something which 99% of American cities lack.

 

[Bucephalus]

This video made me chuckle a little. A cyclist almost gets hit by a train because he ran across the tracks as it was approaching.

Which goes to show that it doesn't matter what vehicle it is (car, train, etc), cyclists are just stupid around anything around them and pose a danger to the safety of themselves and others. They keep blaming anything, but themselves for not exercising more caution. If they get hit by a car it's because its the drivers fault for not predicting the bike was going to blow past a stop sign. If they hit a pedestrian it's because the person walking didn't get out of the way in time.

The train driver had to apply the emergency brake which is potentially hazardous to people on board.

If only this guy was conducting the train.

 

[JJLiautaud]

Now how do we get the Fuck Cars people to start blaming Jews for car infrastructure (Dodge brothers).

The Dodge Brothers weren't members of the tribe they were Yankees, their original symbol was two deltas interlocked to show their closeness.

 

[quaawaa]

The one city I’ve seen that is closest to their 15 minute city, has free bus rides, lots of bike infrastructure, etc, is Provo Ut. The buses are free because they’re paid for by the local universities one of them being outright ran by the Mormon church. Also I assume Mormons like cycling so no surprise on that front. But it appears to me that this only could happen if there’s high trust and social cohesion. Something which 99% of American cities lack.

Provo can't possibly be a 15 Minute City because the real definition isn't that you can get to all errands with at most 15 minutes of travel time or that you have a lot of bikes or transit, it's that no one owns cars and that everyone lives in apartments. Provo is majority single-family homes and has wide roads and lots of parking (though being a college town I wouldn't be surprised if they're trying to road diet everything).

Even if Provo was their utopia city, they'd still complain because they would still need a car to get to the rest of the Salt Lake metro area. For example, Santa Monica is extremely walkable yet they still bitch about Greater Los Angeles requiring a car despite it having a larger population than their Holy Land of the Netherlands. The mere existence of a suburb that they can't reach without a car enrages them.

 

[reptile baht spaniard rid]

That’s the lie they don’t want to admit - everything you need with it 15 minutes isn’t good enough. They want everything within easy public transit access. That’s always impossible even in perfect cities, because they get too big.

The very idea that there is avocado toast somewhere they can’t get to scars them.

 

[Old English Roast Beef]

For example, Santa Monica is extremely walkable yet they still bitch about Greater Los Angeles requiring a car despite it having a larger population than their Holy Land of the Netherlands.

Greater Los Angeles also has a higher population density than the Netherlands.

 

[Mac Monster]

And yet, at the same time, he still seems to understand at some level what so many urbanists completely miss...it's not the layout of a neighborhood, it's who lives there, and the best neighborhoods are people like you, who have common ground with you. That's not going to be possible with infimmigration, massive expansion of the Civil Rights Bill, and moving in "low-income" people to housing areas.

That's also one the big issues with public transportation. People would be far more willing to use the train if there wasn't the risk of being trapped with some hoodrat who could be carrying a deadly weapon. As it stands, it's far safer to just use your own car. Of course, they'll never ackowledge this because joggers are one of their sacred cows.

 

[Markass the Worst]

Greater Los Angeles also has a higher population density than the Netherlands.

Is this including just the Netherlands Randstad or the Netherlands as a whole? The country is very different outside the Randstad despite what peddlers like Jason Slaughter would have you believe.

 

[Old English Roast Beef]

Is this including just the Netherlands Randstad or the Netherlands as a whole? The country is very different outside the Randstad despite what peddlers like Jason Slaughter would have you believe.

The whole country—which isn't entirely a fair comparison, but it has plenty of car-brained sprawl.