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[reptile baht spaniard rid]

You know who hates roundabouts? Cyclists, because they are forced to yield because you can't "see it's clear" and just blow through it, and you have to go around.

 

[Xarpho's Return]

Also it's entirely bullshit that you can't retrofit roundabouts into America, it's been done and will be done and has been pretty well received in many areas.

There are advantages to stop lights but a roundabout is usually better than a four-way stop.

Road Guy Rob sperged about it recently (notice that he does research and interviews and holy shit he gets his own footage and doesn't cry like a little bitch): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1ZUZA76L09M

(amusingly enough, it can be hell to retrofit a roundabout in urop where there hasn't always been one, because of historic buildings and shit that can't be touched).

oh fuck oh shit a new RGR dropped about fat roads

Roundabouts work best in four-way stops or stoplights for low-volume two-way roads, which are found primarily in residential areas. Most of the "illegal to build in America!" infrastructure, short of death traps that violate fire code, aren't.

I also think that RGR is a better video editor than Jason. That thing where he was illustrating traffic flow in a black and white plan-style overlay? That's just a few filters with Paint.net. (Edge Detect, then desaturate, then invert colors). It works best with high-contrast roads (asphalt, not concrete) and nothing casting a shadow.

You can go a long way with showing your point with shots from Google Earth in general, which is probably why Jason is so hung up about the Sprawl Repair Manual. If those ideas had any worth, then they would've been found in reality, like California or Europe. The closest you could probably do is Houston where you can find examples of a dead Whataburger site into two dozen townhome units but Houston is absolutely haram when it comes to "good" urbanism despite having a lot of what they claim to want.

 

[reptile baht spaniard rid]

I think these fucks also don't realize how cheap (and how expensive) buildings are. Nobody is going to build housing in a McDonalds parking lot - even if they want to keep the McDs! They'll just demolish it and build a new mixed use building with a McDonald's in its ass.

Also RGR clearly has a drone (he shows him crashing it now and then) AND he clearly gets permission for this stuff (he's talking to the mayor!) These other fucks can't do that because the mayor doesn't want to talk to someone whose questions are variations of "why aren't you a fag and why is your shit all retarded?"

 

[Xarpho's Return]

I didn't have time to watch the whole video. I only watched the first 15 minutes or so, which is impressive cuz I usually go MATI when I watch socialist sperg like this.
The basic premise is that Ray Oldenburg wasn't a leftist *gasp*, and that he was a misogynist and a homophobe i.e. a bigot *even more gasping*, and possibly an alcoholic too. And what we really should do is let the community decide on how to urbanize, and only let them urbanize, because after all you have a Right to the City. Oh by the way we are gonna take all the surplus and distribute it as we see fit.
Granted this is a smaller youtuber, but looking at his numbers he is in the growth phase and will probably start to gain traction with other Breadtubers.

It should be mentioned that the particular breadtuber is in fact gay, so at least that's where the "he's homophobic" bit comes from, it's just not the laundry list of "-ists" that lefties are obliged to hate.

He made a video on "the life and death of American gayborhoods" and blamed the non-activist gays as part of what killed them (as "homonormativity"). Like many leftists they can't fathom cause and effect, that their integration into the culture means that you can't have "distinct" gayborhoods anymore. Of course, he also leaves out the massive crime underbelly that pervaded the area, of prostitution and drugs.

And yet, at the same time, he still seems to understand at some level what so many urbanists completely miss...it's not the layout of a neighborhood, it's who lives there, and the best neighborhoods are people like you, who have common ground with you. That's not going to be possible with infimmigration, massive expansion of the Civil Rights Bill, and moving in "low-income" people to housing areas.

 

[Lobster Cult High Priest]

Also, here's another one--not even churches are safe from wonky half-scale buildings! (You can tell this guy is a heathen and a huckster, those churches get packed out on Sundays and special events).

What funny is that those small houses next to Churches already exist in a ton of places. It’s so Senior citizens can still attend church when they are no longer able to drive due to reaction times.

 

[Yamamura]

China has phenomenal urbanism:

Their sub has been hijacked by Wumaos and it couldn't have happened to a better community.

Also it's sort of funny watching their copes about mass immigration that I made this. It's almost like you can see the gears in their head slowly turning when they're the same bunch that complain about over population and why you need to be child free like them to save the environment and then back peddle when defending why we actually need hoards of people coming in.

 

[S.C.U.D.]

There are advantages to stop lights but a roundabout is usually better than a four-way stop.

I was thinking of examples of why I don't like 4-way stops, specifically people who don't know how to handle them, and guess what my most recent experience with that was!

I pull up to a 4-way stop, it's the car across from me's go. Out of nowhere, a cyclist (no helmet) blows through the stop sign to my right (the other car's left) and the other car has to slam on his brakes to not hit this faggot.

Huh! Weird! A cyclist with no mind for safety or rules of the road? Weird!

 

[Meriasek]

It's literally just a roundabout instead of an intersection. Usually the road intersection is built before the businesses, so most of the time there isn't room to change it into a roundabout. Also roundabouts are terrible at controlling traffic when you high traffic, since there can be zero gaps to let people in from side streets while the main streets never stop flowing. It's just more Euroboo bullshit.

A regular intersection would also kinda leave even more space for the buildings around it, innit?
Are these people just shilling roundabouts because Yurop has a lot of them?

 

[reptile baht spaniard rid]

It's sad. There's all sorts of various and valid reasons to shill roundabouts, but when it comes down to it, they're shilling them because they think the carchuds hate them.

Drivers do not like them, until they get used to them, then they don't care about them anymore.

And it's relatively easy to retrofit a roundabout into a normal intersection, losing some parking if necessary. Not impossible, just costs money.

That last part is what they don't get at all. Money isn't infinite, and people have to make decisions based on the funds they have, at every level and everywhere. Would I love my city to have a tram line right down the main avenue, with bike paths and walking paths everywhere, well-paved roads with roundabouts and such? Sure! But it'd cost literally billions of dollars.

 

[Xarpho's Return]

It's sad. There's all sorts of various and valid reasons to shill roundabouts, but when it comes down to it, they're shilling them because they think the carchuds hate them.

Drivers do not like them, until they get used to them, then they don't care about them anymore.

And it's relatively easy to retrofit a roundabout into a normal intersection, losing some parking if necessary. Not impossible, just costs money.

That last part is what they don't get at all. Money isn't infinite, and people have to make decisions based on the funds they have, at every level and everywhere. Would I love my city to have a tram line right down the main avenue, with bike paths and walking paths everywhere, well-paved roads with roundabouts and such? Sure! But it'd cost literally billions of dollars.

We both know that "trains and bikes everywhere" isn't the main goal. The mask often slips off every once in a while.

 

[Meriasek]

We both know that "trains and bikes everywhere" isn't the main goal. The mask often slips off every once in a while.

Yeah. There were some plans to test a new maglev system in Berlin, which was of course met with a lot of angry opposition immediately. One argument that stuck in my memory basically boiled down to "Any sort of elevated train tracks are shit because they don't take away enough lanes from cars". As I said before, it's not about making your own life better, it's about making their lifes worse. Public transport and bike lanes everywhere and all improvements to pedestrian life are worth nothing if carbrains don't suffer for it.

 

[Car Won't Crank]

It's sad. There's all sorts of various and valid reasons to shill roundabouts, but when it comes down to it, they're shilling them because they think the carchuds hate them.

Drivers do not like them, until they get used to them, then they don't care about them anymore.

And it's relatively easy to retrofit a roundabout into a normal intersection, losing some parking if necessary. Not impossible, just costs money.

That last part is what they don't get at all. Money isn't infinite, and people have to make decisions based on the funds they have, at every level and everywhere. Would I love my city to have a tram line right down the main avenue, with bike paths and walking paths everywhere, well-paved roads with roundabouts and such? Sure! But it'd cost literally billions of dollars.

Roundabouts are fun. I always go as fast as I can, safely, on them. It's fun feeling the car's rear end snap in the other direction when you pull out of the circle.

 

[Irene and 22 others]

That last part is what they don't get at all. Money isn't infinite, and people have to make decisions based on the funds they have, at every level and everywhere.

The urbanist-commie Venn diagram might not be a single circle, but it could probably be mistaken for a drawing of a near total eclipse. To these people money is just something you get from taxing the rich, just like food is something that comes from the grocery store. At least until their shitty Marxist policies cause a famine and everyone starves.

 

[Xarpho's Return]

The urbanist-commie Venn diagram might not be a single circle, but it could probably be mistaken for a drawing of a near total eclipse. To these people money is just something you get from taxing the rich, just like food is something that comes from the grocery store. At least until their shitty Marxist policies cause a famine and everyone starves.

I want to think our rising star breadtuber has a point that urbanists don't get but I might just be optimistic.

 

[Apple Porcupine]

They're making a video game:

Reddit source, archive
Steam source, archive

 

[Xarpho's Return]

They're making a video game:

So it's supposed to be America but they still use bong terminology like "Car Park" and half the cars look like stuff I'd see on old British sitcoms.

You had one job.

 

[sum ting wong]

So it's supposed to be America but they still use bong terminology like "Car Park" and half the cars look like stuff I'd see on old British sitcoms.

You had one job.

Yeah, the guy says in one of the screenshots "I think I was still a kid... (and I couldn't read English)". So this person is likely not even from America but seethes so much about American car use that they're making a game about it.

And you already know that any criticism of the game being bad/boring/annoying will be met with some variation of "So you agree car dependency is bad and we should get rid of cars in real life?"

 

[Sunflower Samurai]

I know im a tad late but the people being angry at the Gordon Ramsay helmet post are mental, even the most casual crusing speed can break your head in if you hit the wrong object, and its not hard to believe any speed being sensible enough to get most to places is going to reach a point where falling off for whatever reason even unrelated to cars and getting a nasty bump in the noggin is possible

Even in their utopias a nasty fall onto concrete, a pipe or a sign would be horrid, its just one of the most bizzare pseudo intellectual complaints ive seen

 

[quaawaa]

Yeah, the guy says in one of the screenshots "I think I was still a kid... (and I couldn't read English)". So this person is likely not even from America but seethes so much about American car use that they're making a game about it.

He’s Dutch (there’s a screenshot of the game in his cover photo):

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[Xarpho's Return]

Even in their utopias a nasty fall onto concrete, a pipe or a sign would be horrid, its just one of the most bizzare pseudo intellectual complaints ive seen

The thing about their bike utopias is that people in Europe stay on their designated paths (they don't do the whole "I'm a cyclist, I'm entitled to the streets"), they move at safe speeds, and they follow all signs and signals. It's not infrastructure, it's a mindset, and no infrastructure can save retards.