Trashfire The Sektur vs VTubers / The VTuber Freakshow / Gaytor Watch / "Total VTuber Death" (TVD / TVTD) - Gaytor alogging in 2024 has finally borne fruit, already people fighting ITT within <1hr

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NoWayBro said:

That is where it started and the end is... here.


It's the whole thread.
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Null will have to quadruple my pay for me to look through all the cartoon png file sperging.
This time is better sent fixing issues in Juju's thread and finding a cheaper supplier of estradiol.

Yeah, stay on topic faggots. It's a thread about Sektards vs. PNG files, not your favourite chink cartoon show and why that makes or doesn't make you a kiddie diddler.
 
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Ted's of Beverly Hills said:
It's a faildox. The girl in the picture is some slav goblina.
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No, don't ruin the joke, she is a balding Slavic wigger! But seriously the photo itself is not her, but the rest of the information is almost certainly correct. The only pic we have of her is the second pic on that post.

It is worth nothing that the KF splinter site Onion farms has a thread on her where they have this information archived more easily to read:

Here is the MATI stream that Josh/Null discussed her dox:
 
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Kirtto said:
No, don't ruin the joke, she is a balding Slavic wigger! But seriously the photo itself is not her, but the rest of the information is almost certainly correct. The only pic we have of her is the second pic on that post.

It is worth nothing that the KF splinter site Onion farms has a thread on her where they have this information archived more easily to read:

Here is the MATI stream that Josh/Null discussed her dox:
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If there was a joke in peddling the faildox, it went over my head and I guess sorry for spoiling your fun.
 
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thhrang said:
Naught, who is a tranny SEAnigger pedophile.
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Now that's what I call a bruh moment :sighduck:
 
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Usually a lurker but discourse around virtual pedobaiters morbidly fascinates me, been looking into some of this the last week and bit the bullet signing up here to share stuff nobody else seems to have noticed
BJLSh8tr said:
Everyone here that's arguing or justifying their one-sided affection for their choice of traumatised, mentally ill women adopting edgy and detestable personas through the internet
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Lidl Drip said:
Well tbh she probably doesn't know who you are at all. You spend all day white knighting her, she spends zero time thinking about you.
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Pippa absolutely knows who one of her top defenders here @thhrang is because he was formerly one of her Jewtube moderators and is friends with her furfaggot groomer
Chase is a retard but he and his buddy appear to be right about this

Last year she specifically and purposely decided to follow thhrang and only thhrang on twitter with a non-company-affiliated personal private account several weeks before she publicly revealed it post

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thhrang confirms it is her

As you can see he definitely has zero ulterior motives or bias in this thread and same goes for @Sanshain who runs the VTuber forum that @thhrang and @reinigen moderate for

@Sanshain/Proctor Zakharov is also friends with Kirsche and they have streamed together, Kirsche being one of Pippa's very close friends
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For posterity, Kirsche streamed with the operator of the VTuber splinter forum. Timestamped to when she joins.
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Absolutely zero conflict of interest here though guys
 
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Fougaro said:
No. Because when you remember that Josh is, for all intents and purposes, a de jure small time corpo and de facto an upstart ENdie VTuber himself, you'll notice that this thread at the end of the day just another /vt/ thread of spergs chimping out at each other over their oshi.
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I'm gonna rig the slobbermutt to vtubing software and force him to use it at gunpoint, his transition into his final form of autism, his apotheosis of spergery, his ascension to the Throne of anime will then finally be complete.

Then, once he is the Anime God he can finally end the blight of vietnamese moving pictures by invoking his divine authority, a worthy sacrifice to end the decades of slapfights over this particular subject.

Our most holy agents of the ordo nipponius are on the case, you cannot stop it, you can only accept it.

 
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ChromaQuack said:
I'm gonna rig the slobbermutt to vtubing software and force him to use it at gunpoint, his transition into his final form of autism, his apotheosis of spergery, his ascension to the Throne of anime will then finally be complete.

Then, once he is the Anime God he can finally end the blight of vietnamese moving pictures by invoking his divine authority, a worthy sacrifice to end the decades of slapfights over this particular subject.

Our most holy agents of the ordo nipponius are on the case, you cannot stop it, you can only accept it.

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may jeebus bless you on your holy endeavours
 
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Kirtto said:
The highlights of that thread that are worth seeing in relation to the Sektur drama are this:

Pippa defense of Lolicon:
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Godwinson attempt at a stream doxing Vtubers:
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While I shouldn't expect much from Chases capo, you ought to mirror shit onto the main site for a myriad of reasons (e.g., Kengles site being slow as fuck with videos holy shit)
Just like Chase, you are devoted to a-logging this person, yet are too retarded to actually do anything right.
  • Pippa is upset at vice calling a character with tits a loli, specifying its in fact oppai loli, while the character next to said oppai loli is a TRUE and HONEST loli
  • "Loli is a body type, not an age" - Kirsche
  • "People like to use the word shortstack instead of loli because they feel weird about saying the character that they like is a loli" - Kirsche (boy i sure wonder why nobody wants to say they like a loli character?)
  • Pippa says children in swimsuits is A-OK
  • Kirsche: "Western women go home!" Pippa: "Yeah" (you can tell a lot about an audience by their chosen entertainer)
  • "It's fiction that has no victims" - Pippa Pipkin on Loli art/doujins
  • "People should be allowed to enjoy themselves in their private worlds" - Pippa Pipkin
  • "When I play blue archive, I feel weird playing it cause all the characters are canonically underage, but I don't give a shit if other people play it cause they're not real." - Kirsche, explaining that whether attraction to childlike bodies is fine depends on the child, namely if its fictional.
  • When vice says these photos are animated child porn, which could get you in prison, Pippa and Kirsche then mock vice for showing censored examples, as the idea of showing material in a documentary on said material escapes them.
  • Kirsche: "I hate how they call it animated child porn"
    Pippa: "It's the worst"
    Kirsche: "It's so disingenuous"
    Pippa: "Yeah"
  • Pippa and Kirsche don't like the more realistic loli, which is held under the same law as the less realistic stuff.
  • "It's kinda fucked up, but then again, its just drawings, and his artstyle makes it look weirder" - Kirsche
  • When the loli artist being interviewed say the child in the drawing "wants to be raped", Kirsche recites a lolicon meme, which both laugh too.
  • "I have no opinion on this actually" - Pippa, when the loli artist admits he is in fact a literal pedophile who's attracted to IRL children.
  • Pippa's thoughts on pedos are that its a disease and they deserve the woodchipper, yet lolicon should be around to help them with their child lust.
  • Kirsche says this is a hit piece where they choose the worst loli artist for the interview (she probably isn't wrong, since this is vice at the end of the day.)
  • "There's no cope on my end, I just don't know" - Pippa, when chat yells at her for fence-sitting on the loli question.
  • "Is she saying guilty until proven innocent?" - Pippa
  • Kirsche and Pippa reference the Dr. Pizza thing, say the people calling out Japans pedophilic anime/manga market are the real nazis pedophiles.
  • "Twitter moment?" - When saying its odd that there exists a market for something that, if it wasn't drawn, would be a human rights violation.
  • Pippa and Kirsche argue lolicon art actually brings awareness to child sexual abuse.
  • Pippa and Kirsche say comparing lolicon art to child porn is disingenuous
  • Pippa and Kirsche compare the "loli art encourages child sexual assault" argument to the "video games cause violence" argument.
  • The westerners are the real nazis pedophiles, due to stuff like Cuties.
  • Pippa argues against the interviews argument that lolicon art could negatively effect actual children by saying children never see loli hentai since you have to go to an adult store, despite internet loli hentai being highly accessible.
  • Kirsche says the interviewer is disrespecting Japans culture.
  • Video: "Lolicon derives from the name of the novel Lolita"
    Pippa: "Its a lot more nuanced then that"
    It, in fact, is not much more nuanced then that (Loli is from Nabokov's Lolita, and con derives from complex, as lolicon is a shortened version of the phrase Lolita Complex, which is another way to say pedophile a unique phrase to describe people who like young anime characters, often sexually.
  • Vice:"There are no studies saying loli/shota hentai leads to real sexual assault"
    Pippa:"So what was the point of this?"
    Kirsche:"Is this just fear-mongering to westerners?"
    Pippa:"I don't know, she just hates Japanese people"
    The Vtubers don't understand the concept of a documentary that explains and discusses a less then mainstream topic to people who would've otherwise never heard of it, as this doesn't neatly tie in with their weird lolicon based victim complex.
  • Kirsche immediately declares the interview bringing a real child diddler to discuss a weird form of CSAM is all part of vice's anti-lolicon agenda, and in no way potentially relevant to people who know nothing of the subject (i.e, the target audience of this video.)
  • Vice brought the real diddler on since part of how he discovered he was a pedo was by reading a loli doujin. Kirsche and Pippa immediately say he was in fact a porn addict and pedophile already, and thus vice has no argument.
  • The diddler says as he read more loli/shota hentai, his desire to rape a child increased. Due to the diddler being a middle-schooler, Pippa and Kirsche say this was just his hormones and not his access to loli/shota, as apparently all middle school boys want to rape their female classmates.
  • "I'm not trying to make excuses, but your sexual desire was increasing because your hormones were increasing" - Pippa, on the diddlers desires (ignoring the fact these were desires revolved around children)
  • "I've seen plenty of fucked up pornography...Like stuffing your no-no parts full of cockroaches" - Kirsche
  • "This is a delusional pedophile, why is he out here?" - Pippa, claiming the diddler attributing some of this child lust to fictional child porn is wrong and that porn would NEVER EVER EVER EVER make someone interested in acting out scenes from said porn.
  • When the vice diddler says he felt his desires were ramped up by the lolishota, Pippa responds with "Oh fuck off".
  • Pippa says anyone against gay shit in media are the REAL gays, and consequently all anti-lolicons are the REAL pedophiles.
  • Kirsche:"If you let your son watch queer eye for the straight guy with his friends, he's gonna turn gay"
    Pippa: "It's so disingenuous man"
  • "What is going on with Japans legal system" - Kirsche
  • Upon learning the diddler got four years of probation, Pippa and Kirsche agree somethings up with Japan, but not the anime/manga industry (because issues with a judicial system would NEVER EVER EVER EVER leak out into the greater culture.) "Wrong conclusion...Wrong Hypothesis" - Pippa
  • Vice: "Inura Okino(?) is an elected Tokyo official, and manga artist"
    Kirsche: "Okay so he also has a vested interest in this"
    Pippa: "Yeah"
    How and in what?
  • Tokyo official basically recites the 'Japan has its own culture, and anyone who dislikes this material is just a dang dirty westerner' argument.
  • The two refuse to believe the official referred to lolishota as "Child Pornography", and re-watch the clip multiple times, leading to
    Pippa: "They translated lolicon as child pornography"
    Kirsche: "Those disingenuous fucks!"
    They, in fact, did not mis-translate lolicon.
  • When the Tokyo official says a loli hentai manga should be protected as art, Kirsche responds with "Based Politician".
  • 'Japan has its own distinct culture different from you damn westerners' Japan: Protects loli art solely due to a constitution they were made to adopt by the USA.
  • Vice: "Do you ever feel guilty[in regards to publishing and drawing loli hentai for 20 years]"
    Artist: "I'd be lying if I said I didn't...Logically, what I'm doing isn't good...I'm not doing anything praiseworthy."
    Pippa and Kirsche then say that ALL porn is stigmatized, and refuse to acknowledge the point the documentary was making, which is even the loli artist feels this stuff ain't right.
  • Vice interviewer finds a psychologist who's worked with hundreds of real diddlers.
    Vice:"How many of your clients consume this type of media?"
    Psychologist: "About 90% of them viewed these titles. Many of the perpetrators say they opened Pandora's box for them"
    Kirsche: "Thats just trying to shirk the responsibility off them"
    Pippa: "In the west, if there's shows...that portray teenagers in sexual situations and stuff, you could use the same excuse."
    It seems anytime someone who likes lolishota hentai molests a real child, they're immediately not a TRUE and HONEST lolicon, similar to how Chris was not a TRUE and HONEST transwomen after he fucked his mother.
  • "There just is no proof" - Pippa on if lolishota hentai is linked to real child diddling.
TL;DR - Pippa approves of loli hentai (that isn't too realistic), as "people should be allowed to enjoy themselves in their private worlds", and that "It's fiction that has no victims". Her reasoning is the same exact 'loli is fine, actually' arguments other people have posted ITT. Their thoughts are the VICE video they reacted to is that it was all a deliberately made hitpiece meant to fear monger to westerners by a person who hates Japan and its people against the lolicons, and not that maybe the concept of animated child pornography inherently is bad optics wise, and thus you can't really describe it in a way that won't make the average person repulsed.
One of the videos linked is the Pizza tower clip brought up in the OP. although I don't think the others have been posted:


TL;DR - Pippa references the same lolicon meme as the last time (brat needs correction.)

TL;DR - "Time is a social construct, that's why I should be allowed to fuck 13 year old girls" - Pippa Pipkin, in what seems to be a joke due to her overly nasal voice (think stereotypical nerd voice.)

"You opened the conversation by saying its not illegal pedophilia it's good pedophilia" - Kirsche
"I'm not a pedophile, it's just fictional" - Pippa
"Yeah it's okay pedophilia" - Pippa
"People are gonna look at you funny when you say that there's a good pedophilia" - Kirsche
"I don't understand how saying 'good pedophilia' is bad, when there's 'good killing' in video games" - Pippa (She really loves comparing lolicon to the violence in video games argument)
"Why is it not good pedophilia when my anime waifu is 13 years old" - Pippa (Why does Pippa love the age 13 for her jokes?)
TL;DR - "I'm not a pedophile, it's just fictional" - Pippa Pipkin I can't help but feel this might be an edgy joke outta context.
 
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Cowboy Kim said:
TL;DR - Pippa approves of loli hentai (that isn't too realistic), as "people should be allowed to enjoy themselves in their private worlds", and that "It's fiction that has no victims". Her reasoning is the same exact 'loli is fine, actually' arguments other people have posted ITT. Their thoughts are the VICE video they reacted to is that it was all a deliberately made hitpiece meant to fear monger to westerners by a person who hates Japan and its people against the lolicons, and not that maybe the concept of animated child pornography inherently is bad optics wise, and thus you can't really describe it in a way that won't make the average person repulsed.
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Could you timestamp the most egregious parts of the video please?
 
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Cowboy Kim said:
While I shouldn't expect much from Chases capo, you ought to mirror shit onto the main site for a myriad of reasons (e.g., Kengles site being slow as fuck with videos holy shit)
Just like Chase, you are devoted to a-logging this person, yet are too retarded to actually do anything right.
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Keep seething faggot. I will not archive shit, since you will do it for free because you are spiritually a janny.
 
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EyeGuy said:
Ralph's pedophilia is well established and completely independent from his association with groypers and Dax:
- The pillstream where he jerked off to Soph.
- The tweet where he lusted after Kyle Rittenhouse's sixteen year old sister.
- Grooming a high schooler into moving across the country and impregnating her before drunkenly releasing revenge porn.
- Stating multiple times that he likes girls as young as legally possible, preferably eighteen. If that's what he's willing to cop to on cam...
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Yep.

It's like the people sweeping for Synthetic Man in his thread because "He's the last real YouTuber"... Even though at this point he's admitted to liking Futa, "Anthropomorphic Adjacent"(Furry), (and apparently Loli.)

I say "Fuck all of them"

That or a fine "SUFFAH"
 
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