Temperance
kiwifarms.net
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- May 1, 2022
Strangely, these old tweets came up in a recent Google search I did. Not sure if they've been posted here before, but just in case:
https://web.archive.org/web/20220907041511/http://twitter.com/lizthegrey/status/1567003479285301248 [Archive]
First tweet from "Debi Jackson", who has her own KF thread here.





Liz Fong-Jones admits that he was the one who got the ball rolling on de-listing Kiwifarms from Google search results.
https://web.archive.org/web/20220907041511/http://twitter.com/lizthegrey/status/1567003479285301248 [Archive]
First tweet from "Debi Jackson", who has her own KF thread here.

Then Liz Fong-Jones responded:Debi Jackson said:So I turned to Google. I was connected to folks on their LGBTQ ERG and they helped. After a couple of months, they realized how bad KF was and decided to stop indexing their pages. That meant no more KF pages would turn in up search results for any person they targeted!




tl;drLiz Fong-Jones said:Hi! I was one of the people who worked on this.
KiwiFarms stopped turning up in autocomplete for search terms but was still eligible to appear in search results as of 2018.
the rationale is that the google web search team views search autocomplete as more of an editorial decision they can change, but that they're very hesitant to reach in and make tweaks with regard to actual SERPs.
still, it definitely helped a LOT when "liz fong-jones" stopped suggesting "liz fong-jones kiwifarms'
and to be clear, while I was acting on behalf of Trans@Google, the ultimate decision was made by the Google Web Search team and them alone; I exercised no undue influence aside from bringing the issue to their attention through the routine process for unhelpful search behaviour.
the team was very clear with me that if I wanted to pursue de-listing of Kiwifarms for any individual, that a court order eg for defamation would be required, and that the court order would then be posted to http://chillingeffects.org / Lumen, in a sign of hilarious irony.
because nothing says "chilling effect" like having doxxing and stalking lol
There's been progress since then, for instance now individual doxxing pages can be denylisted for individual people's names as web search results, but it's page by page and search term by search term; there is no blanket process to denylist by domain or by search term entirely.
honestly, I'm relieved to have dealt with this problem at the source rather than needing to policy litigate this through the Google Web Search team, who are almost as resistant as Cloudflare when it comes to marketplace of ideas thinking vs harm reduction tradeoffs in SERPs.
Liz Fong-Jones admits that he was the one who got the ball rolling on de-listing Kiwifarms from Google search results.