Star Wars Griefing Thread (SPOILERS) - Safety off

I can give a pass to Bossk since Trandoshans feel like they'd be one of those species that are long lived, him being around a while is perfectly fine. Also you missed Filoni's handling of the clones from his list of issues, completely absolving them of their agency in regards to Order 66 so that he could have Rex be a squeaky clean good boy who dindu nuffin in perpetuity.
Trandoshans were definitely long lived in the old EU, in one of my first experiences with the EU, in Star Wars Galactic Battlegrounds the Trandoshan leader Pekt tries to enslave the wookies on their first colony Alaris Prime

He gets beaten by Qui Gon Jin and Chewbacca's father, but 50 years later he's in kahoots with the imperial moff controlling kashyyyk, and mass enslaving the planet until he gets killed by a combined wookiee and rebel force liberating kashyyyk not long after the death of Palpatine
 
I really don't get the inclusion of Ki-Adi Mundi. It feels totally unnecessary and has now introduced this massive plot point everyone lost their mind over. Couldn't they just made up another old wise jedi master? Just introduce Bimbo Bumpo from planet Funko for that one scene and be done with it.
Jedi Master Glup Shitto should have been there.
 
I honestly can't tell if they are that supid, or if they are purposely trying to piss off fans.

I think you have to get your head around the retarded woke mind virus that influences these people. They're indoctrinated in a cult way of thinking that they probably don't even understand but it warps their world view. They have a whole bunch of post-modernist, post-structuralist, queer theory ideas warping how the interpret everything. Where they don't understand the real world in a way where there's an objective reality. Everything is a social construct. That must be broken apart in order to lead to paradise. Which is ultimately a marxist utopia due to the ideology. They'd just think it's a equitable world where there's no oppression.

The thing is, most people who suffer from this delusion don't really understand why they think what they think. They just view the world this way. So when they are put in charge of a fictional universe like Star Wars. They simply can't interpret it in a way where there's a grounded reality. They're fundamentally incapable of actually delivering anything grounded in a reality. When they think of the real world as being fake, how could they think of anything being real in a fake world?

It's also why you're immediately a phobe or bad person if you question any of their choices. Their choices are wrapped in the virtue of the "correct" way to think. Anything counter to that is the "bad person" way of thinking. Whatever bounds of a reality they still understand in the real world is gone in the fictional world. They free to do whatever they want. They're living in the utopia they want. How dare you be an oppressor and try and put some reality on the fake world.
 
From the mouth of the writers themselves, Yoda was supposed to be in this. In fact, he was supposed to be taking Mundi's role, but apparently they didn't have enough budget to bring him in, so they instead put in Mundi. So, the only thing that stopped them from having Yoda be a traitor who purposely hides the existence of the Sith was that the creators didn't want to bother bringing back his puppet.
 
"Amandla Stenberg wrote, recorded, shot and edited a song and music video in just 72 hours -"

LOL, no, she fucking didnt. Anyone that has any idea how much energy and time it takes to shoot anything and then freaking edit it knows thats a load of fucking garbage. AND they want me to buy that she had enough free time to do that? When she has so many interviews to make to mostly cry wolf?

I guara-fucking-tee it that she had help of mommy and daddy at least, assuming she did anything besides stand in front of a camera and pat herself in the back afterwards while an underpaid crew were working their asses off to try to make her look appealing.

I mean, look at her. No, not the skintone, I mean REALLY look at her. What do you see? She is a Nepo-baby. Someone born in a golden crib and then cried because it wasnt a diamond one.
You can tell this is a girl that never had a "difficult" day in her life. It was always the best and most expensive for her. Always brand new. Always on trend. She never knew uncertainty, financial and emotional. She definitively was the "pretty girl" at school and always had her way, crying racism or raining money when someone did the crime of not kissing the ground she walked. Its no wonder she makes a disstrack to "own the haters" because its how she was raised to deal with opposition, by saying that they are haters and that they are jelly and she is better than them.

We live in the age of princesses dancing in front of the plebs to tell them how oppressed she really is. Then cry to the king when people boo at her even more, demanding he executes some fools to "send a message".

I cant overstate enough the importance of grounding someone in reality. People are like trees, we can grow as high as we want but we must always keep our roots on the soil of reality. And these people are god damn flying trees, I tell you what.

He thought he could trust Disney. People have known for decades you shouldn't trust the Mouse.

I wonder how, because even people with slight awareness of the company's history knows they have the tendency to always screw over the little guy for their own gain, let alone someone like him that have been in the industry for years. They have gladly lobbied for copyright laws being imposed only selectively, setting a dangerous standard for companies of which we are still suffering to this very day. They have tanked entire projects for selfish reasons, like Treasure Planet not getting a lick of marketing and then they act shocked it didnt make its money back (thus using that as an excuse to shut down their 2D handdrawn departament...almost like they wanted to make up a reason or somethin') or Gigantic never making it off the ground for "creative differences" (whatever that means) and they have shown no faith in Coco to the point of putting a Frozen short before it to keep the audience's attention (so much for "progressive" Disney). They are a very spiteful company even against its own workers, much less to "outsiders" that they want to take advantage of.

What did Lucas think was gonna happen? That, assuming she really was all that, Kathy would be able to keep things with integrity and consistency? They would have gotten rid of her if she got too much on the way (implying all they are doing now ways always part of the plan, thus why she hasnt left that position).
 
What did Lucas think was gonna happen? That, assuming she really was all that, Kathy would be able to keep things with integrity and consistency? They would have gotten rid of her if she got too much on the way (implying all they are doing now ways always part of the plan, thus why she hasnt left that position).

I am not defending George because he really should have known better but IRCC Iger proudly admitted in his book that he was playing on George’s fear of getting old, and how he had no apparent heir to the franchise. Bob Iger is a manipulative POS that groomed him by playing on his fears.

To be fair to George Lucas he probably expected Disney to, at least, try to make a good enough product even if it was soulless like then MCU. Nobody was expecting for things to get this bad. That they would actively try to sobotage Star Wars for the sake of ideology, without even caring about profit.

But don’t get me wrong, I agree. George really made a big mistake. He is a grown man and with all his years in the industry I did expect him to be smarter. He was too trusting and too naive.
 
What do you see? She is a Nepo-baby. Someone born in a golden crib and then cried because it wasnt a diamond one.
A cursory search tells me there is nothing availible on her father beyond him being "a businessman" from Denmark. Search results appear to be poisoned by bot-written articles summarizing Wikipedia knowledge. Her mother is a race-grifter associated with the Obama orbit, literary agent and a spiritual practicioner(?) associated with New Thought/Religious Science who attended an exclusive all-girls private school on the Upper East Side (current yearly tutition: 64100$) and then majored in English Lit at Yale.
Probably an inter-elite marriage. No wonder the daughter is a tumblrite, identifies as bisexual/pansexual and "epically owns" le racists on social media.
 
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Amandla Stenberg wrote, recorded, shot and edited a song and music video in just 72 hours -"
That is all good. It is just a nigger ooking "Wewuz! Raycism an shieet." How hard is that to produce? A good autotune wagie can make that in an hour unless she eats too much waddymelon and naps through the video.

The problem with the wokeolyte is that Quigon said Sith, and the council was in disbelief.

If we say they knew of this mess, they would go: Oh it must be another dark jedi or witch.

The prequels implies that there were not many dark jedi around, and those that were had been tracked. Like how Dooku falling was a big deal. Jedi likely had records of who was where, and had a rogue idea of what each Kedi was up to. So if there was a dark Jedi, they would at least have some clue of what jedi is awol.

So when Maul pops up, Quigon knows it isn't Padawan Horny who went emo, but a total stranger who knows all the Jedi/Sith only Force Lore he shouldn't.
 
The idea that they are gonna touch Kreia and by extension old republic gives me dread. They are gonna ruin Revan and Meethra Surik 2 of my favorite characters. Also i dont think kreia can be adapted, shes too smart for the hacks at disney to make her work.
I still hate that they made her name Meetra. Man, before Disney fucked everything up I remember the shitstorm over SWTOR "ruining" KOTOR lore. In hindsight, we might have overreacted.
 
I still hate that they made her name Meetra. Man, before Disney fucked everything up I remember the shitstorm over SWTOR "ruining" KOTOR lore. In hindsight, we might have overreacted.
I still call her the Jedi Exile, because what TOR did with KOTOR and Revan in particular was fucking retarded. So no, we didn't. It was bad then, it is bad now. Everything Disney has done is just so abysmal that even the bad parts of the EU look good on comparison.
 
George really made a big mistake

He's no poor naive George.

I never hated the prequels, but George had whored out his IPs to hell and back for all their worth in many ways before selling, so he's not, like, your poor, sensitive, arsty old folk who got duped by the Jew Mouse.

What did him is that he was out of touch. He is a boomer liberal with a boomer liberal mindset and he never abandoned the 70s Hollywood mindset even though it was dead in the water by the time he did the prequels.

In fact, he seems gleefuly unaware that he lucked out of being majorly cucked as early as 1977, during the production of A New Hope. He was no saintly George who always assumed good in people's hearts, he knew how to play the game in the 70s and early 80s, where he could leverage his luck (and friendship to Spielberg) into doing whatever he wanted.

He should have realised that wasn't the case anymore when, while doing the prequels, the new Hollywood clique did everything they could to fuck him over, from banning people from working with him to running a negative press campaign against him with hit piece after hit piece (what do you guys think all the prequels hate was? It was always astroturfed. The movies did not get that much hate on the street, only by Hollywood self-proclaimed nerds and critics that eventually managed to peer pressure a lot of fans into hating the prequels through the power of meme).

But he lucked out a second time (the movies were a sucess despite what you might think with all this everyone hated the prequels in the 00s narrative) so he waved it away and thought it wasn't too bad after all.

He blamed the fans (and not the journos and influencers) on the 'toxicity' and eventually sold it all, thinking that whoever would pick it up would be respectful to his vision and consult him often. That's, basically, how would have it gone if the soldout had happened in the 70s and 80s.

He was also reassured by known faces, Lucasfilm employees and long-runners, like Filoni and Kennedy.

He had never cared about Filoni creating massive continuity mistakes because he did not care about continuity mistakes at all with EU authors, it just happens most EU authors loved Star Wars and regularly asked him stuff and he had a veto power that was actually powerful (he doesn't seem to understand the difference between ruling over stuff because you own it and ruling over stuff because the people who own it allows you too).

He also never cared about Kennedy resenting him because her dumb ideas and attempts at rising above her station were systematically shut down. He didn't even register that one.

He didn't care about the massive change in culture in Hollywood at around 2014, he barely noticed it.

He was on a position were Filoni and Kennedy would just be employees who would never challenge him in anything sensible, and he never bothered to actually delve on what sort of people they were or what sort of work they were doing. They were just 'known faces' to him.

So when he's getting pressured by Iger, those two would sweet talk him and he would eat it up. He would go all Trump "Yeah, them guys, that woman, Kennedy, terrific, terrific woman, been working for me for many, many, many years and that other one, the hat one, yeah, Filoni, terrific, amazing, the best writer I've ever had. Must be since he's also been here for a while now"

So, TL;DR George Lucas was massively out of touch, wanting to stick it up to them feisty fans and the idea that Disney (Lemme remind you, the entertainment company, the quintessential family friendly american movie magic factory with whom he had already collaborated in the past) would purposefully destroy Star Wars (the Space Opera, a money printer and a cultural landmark) and fill the production crew with bad agents, deranged activists and malicious individuals that openly hate Star Wars, its fans, its creator and everything it stands for was an utterly alien, unthinkable concept for him to grasp.

In fact, some of us at the time were only vaguely having such an intuition at the news that they'd be gutting the EU, but wouldn't, in our wildest feverish nightmares, come to imagine it would come to this.

It was just a completely alien thought to process, even for those of us who were paying attention at how things were shaping up!

In fact, even some of the individuals involved, who are not, by any means, the sort of people you would lump with Fandom Menace types (J.J. Abrams being the most notable, but there are many others) were also shocked by how things turned. And we're talking a guy who, the second he was informed he was getting his hands on Star Wars, went over to Lucasfilm to pillage and plunder the place like a savage.
 
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The idea that they are gonna touch Kreia and by extension old republic gives me dread. They are gonna ruin Revan and Meethra Surik 2 of my favorite characters. Also i dont think kreia can be adapted, shes too smart for the hacks at disney to make her work.

I still call her the Jedi Exile, because what TOR did with KOTOR and Revan in particular was fucking retarded. So no, we didn't. It was bad then, it is bad now. Everything Disney has done is just so abysmal that even the bad parts of the EU look good on comparison.
I don't think people remember just how bad the old EU actually got at the end. Disney dumping it was initially seen as a good thing because the Jedi had actually turned evil at that point, the entire galaxy revolved around Zahn's retarded Chiss aliens, and Luke was fighting Force Gods when he wasn't torturing his nephew and seceding from the government over trivial policy differences.

The Exile getting randomly stabbed in the back and killed because the writer was jealous he didn't create her was a particular low point.
 
I don't think people remember just how bad the old EU actually got at the end. Disney dumping it was initially seen as a good thing because the Jedi had actually turned evil at that point, the entire galaxy revolved around Zahn's retarded Chiss aliens, and Luke was fighting Force Gods when he wasn't torturing his nephew and seceding from the government over trivial policy differences.

The Exile getting randomly stabbed in the back and killed because the writer was jealous he didn't create her was a particular low point.
I personally thought The Force Unleashed was a particularly egregious crock of shit. It was bad enough that some edgy Gary Stu is made into Vader's secret-apprentice-we-never-heard-of, wins against Vader and Palpatine in consecutive fights, and proceeds to make every other Jedi redundant from the ridiculous feats he demonstrated, but to find out it was EU canon really burned my ass. It was totally a step in the right direction to decanonise the EU from my perspective at the time.

Little did I know that with Rey, Disney was planning on just making a female Starkiller. Now that they've done that, they want to make sure you know just how gay this part of the galaxy really is. The Force is Faggoty and all that.

Overall, the EU was way more respectful and had some way better storylines. I would reinstate it to a certain point before it became wacky fan wank.
 
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