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Apparently, digging more info about this mobo, not only was it released just recently but its mostly available in Asia, very suspicious. Also, 10+2+1 Duet Rail Power System compared to the Aorus Elite AX Twin 12*+2+1 Phases Digital VRM Solution. I'm confused as to what to even get at this point as it doesn't even have a review. I often use Hardware Unboxed for B650 comparisons, especially with effective VRM in mind.
 
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I checked ASUS’s site and the Q&A section of Best Buy’s listing, the Thunderbolt 4 port has DisplayPort support.

One thing I did notice is that my laptop screen has a 144hz refresh rate, after doing some research it says I should stick to having a monitor with a 144hz refresh rate. I guess it’s back to searching monitors again.

EDIT: I’m getting a lot of conflicting answers on the topic of monitor refresh rates, some say that it can support up to 240hz whilst others say that the max is 144hz, I assume that they’re talking about the laptop’s screen but it’s just getting fucky.
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You need to make sure both the dock and the laptop support thunderbolt. Thunderbolt is a superset of USB-C, so all thunderbolt equipment can carry USB-C but not all USB-C can carry thunderbolt. And even though base USB-C can carry DisplayPort, not all docks properly support alt-dp and not all of them will be able to handle it while you have other things plugged into the dock.

If you want a thunderbolt dock that has a good reputation and natively supports displayport, you should look at the caldigit TS4 or TS3. You can find them used. The dell thunderbolt docks are also good but they're a little anemic when it comes to ports.
 
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Are there any ATV12V mobos out in the wild? I've been idly looking but never seen one for purchase.
 
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You need to make sure both the dock and the laptop support thunderbolt. Thunderbolt is a superset of USB-C, so all thunderbolt equipment can carry USB-C but not all USB-C can carry thunderbolt. And even though base USB-C can carry DisplayPort, not all docks properly support alt-dp and not all of them will be able to handle it while you have other things plugged into the dock.

If you want a thunderbolt dock that has a good reputation and natively supports displayport, you should look at the caldigit TS4 or TS3. You can find them used. The dell thunderbolt docks are also good but they're a little anemic when it comes to ports.
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This shit is why I suggest just sticking with HDMI. Unless you're planning to daisy-chain three monitors, it's going to probably be more headache than it works if a DisplayPort dock has issues.
 
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Well, I've finalized and ordered everything for my little docking station-power gamer space. Here's how it broke down.
  • Monitor: I bought an MSI 27" WQHD IPS Nvidia G-Sync Gaming Monitor from Costco, I really wasn't too happy with some of the offerings that Best Buy had (their site says it's on display at my local stores but they almost always unplugged. Bastards.). I stopped by my local Costco and this one had a really nice picture that I felt was worth it.
  • Docking station: I picked up j5create's USB-C Dual 4K HDMI docking station. It has DisplayPort support via USB-C like my laptop does, all the ports I need, and an additional wireless charging spot. All I need to do for it is get a USB-C to DisplayPort adapter/cord.
  • Speakers: I unfortunately had to be a cheap bastard and get this speaker/subwoofer combo off of Amazon, the upside is that if they're not exactly good I can go back to my previous choice of speakers.
  • Keyboard/Mouse: I went full autismo and I picked up the Spongebob-themed keyboard/mouse/pad combo from Ghost Keyboards. I did notice that since it's a 60% keyboard I'd have to get an added numeric keypad for it. I only wish it had the same gaudy LED-powered aesthetic that the keyboard, mouse, and pad have under their belts.
  • 3D printer: I went with the Creatily K1C printer/hyper PLAx2/dry box 2.0 combo. I thought about getting the ones that add on a pack of quick-swap nozzles or the heating block element but I realized that I could Just buy them later.
  • Desk: This is something I’ve been keeping under my hat but I also picked up a desk To accommodate all of this shit. This one I found on Amazon fits all of my needs and more.
Funnily enough I chatted with my uncle about this set-up and he suggested that, if I don’t get into building my own desktop PC, I should consider getting an external GPU enclosure. I’m not sure if it’s necessary considering that my laptop has a RTX 4070 Laptop GPU but I’ll keep it on the table.
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You need to make sure both the dock and the laptop support thunderbolt. Thunderbolt is a superset of USB-C, so all thunderbolt equipment can carry USB-C but not all USB-C can carry thunderbolt. And even though base USB-C can carry DisplayPort, not all docks properly support alt-dp and not all of them will be able to handle it while you have other things plugged into the dock.

If you want a thunderbolt dock that has a good reputation and natively supports displayport, you should look at the caldigit TS4 or TS3. You can find them used. The dell thunderbolt docks are also good but they're a little anemic when it comes to ports.
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I did some more research on the laptop's and the docking station's DisplayPort status and it appears that they both support it via Thunderbolt 4, if it causes me any trouble I'll return it and get a better one.
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This shit is why I suggest just sticking with HDMI. Unless you're planning to daisy-chain three monitors, it's going to probably be more headache than it works if a DisplayPort dock has issues.
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That’s what I plan on doing if this DisplayPort stuff doesn’t work out. I’m just worried about there being any sort of problems with Optimus popping up.
 
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This shit is why I suggest just sticking with HDMI. Unless you're planning to daisy-chain three monitors, it's going to probably be more headache than it works if a DisplayPort dock has issues.
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Oh I definitely agree. The dedicated ports are almost always better and you don't run into weird issues like running out of TB bandwidth or using too much power etc.

But goddamn when it works it's so clean and elegant to just plug your laptop in with one wire and be docked
 
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What's wrong with ASrock? I love their boards, always have used them, no problems.
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Nothing. Back in ye olden days however brand mattered more. Nowadays outside of the occasional lemon or bios issue they all have their shit together. For a while I swear all my PC liked was gigabyte. But since then I've done all of the big brands with no consistent issues. Even had a Biostar that worked fine lol.
 
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Nothing. Back in ye olden days however brand mattered more. Nowadays outside of the occasional lemon or bios issue they all have their shit together. For a while I swear all my PC liked was gigabyte. But since then I've done all of the big brands with no consistent issues. Even had a Biostar that worked fine lol.
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Seconding the whole lemon thing, the same is also true for gaming laptop mobos since I‘m 99.999% sure that’s what did my old 3050 ASUS TUF laptop in.

Also, ASrock is the only manufacturer that sells an autism-approved mobo.
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EDIT: In addition to the B760M mobo pictured above, they also have a Sonic version of the Z790 mobo. I was considering getting one of these when I was planning on building a PC but I wasn’t sure which one was better.
 
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Just saw the new noctua cooler will be $150 and have around 3-5 degrees improvement over the existing d15. This will pretty much make it on par with the $30-$40 coolers lol.

$150. For an air cooler.
 
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Slight update on the planned gaming desk I'm building. I got the docking station, power cord, and video cord yesterday but I had to swap out the last two. There was a better power cord for a little more cash and after checking for a USB-C to DisplayPort adapter I couldn't find a good one and swapped the DisplayPort cable for a USB-C to HDMI cord.

The mechanical 34-key mechanical "satellite" keyboard and speaker system came in today. I'm not going to test the satellite keyboard until I get everything together but I tested the speakers and they're good for the price, at least they'll keep my ears buzzing until I save up for a better system (or better tweeters since the subwoofer's not that bad).

The desk should be coming in tomorrow and I'll be building that once it gets here. The 3D printer combo and keyboard/mouse/pad combo are in FedEx's system but they haven't been picked up by the carriers yet.
 
@Funnel Cakes - Drop the x670 board for a B650. You lose nothing by going B650 and unless you plan a multi GPU setup or need the multiple 16x slots X670E offers nothing you will benefit from.
Also no point buying a WiFi card since that board or any other you pick will have it integrated.
Perhaps a 240mm aio over the air cooler?
Might be worth getting a 500GB NVME for the OS and keeping your games/other shit on the 2TB. Saves a lot of fucking about when it comes time to reformat.

Similarly, I’m hearing the siren song of PC gaming call to me again so any critique on my current build plan would be appreciated- https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/list/rGzNMV
I know about the warning for the cooler fitting and pcpartpicker is wrong. I checked the GPU and cooler dimensions against the cases manual and it will fit.
 
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I may be retarded, but is "noise normalized" really a realistic testing? It basically adjusts all fans to match noise level. What if one fan is more efficient at some RPM range and not at another?
Am I wrong?
@Almighty Space Duck as owner of Terra, make sure that heatsink clears VRM/backplate and DIMMS. Don't ask me how I know.
 
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I may be retarded, but is "noise normalized" really a realistic testing? It basically adjusts all fans to match noise level. What if one fan is more efficient at some RPM range and not at another?
Am I wrong?
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It's possible. But seeing as how TR is both more effective at 35db (which is fairly low, that also has ambient room noise added in), and quieter at full blast, it's probably quieter at every setting.

Noctua is behind the curve. Simple as that.
 
jeff7989 said:
I may be retarded, but is "noise normalized" really a realistic testing? It basically adjusts all fans to match noise level. What if one fan is more efficient at some RPM range and not at another?
Am I wrong?
@Almighty Space Duck as owner of Terra, make sure that heatsink clears VRM/backplate and DIMMS. Don't ask me how I know.
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It's kind of misleading. I've used both Thermaltake Peerless Assassins and Scythe Fuma. Using the fans included with both coolers, the Thermaltake performs slightly better but the Fuma fans are noticeably quieter when ramped up. If you use similar fans, then the Fuma performs slightly better.

Either way, Thermaltake PAs for $30 is tough to beat and Noctua needs to check their pricing.
 
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