Canada is a failed state

The good news: Mark Carney has all the charisma of an Ignatieff/lizard love child. His is the power of the faceless back room, he has never done actual public-facing politics and it shows.
If he's smart enough to present himself as boring while peddling the same globohomo-incarnate policies then that makes him far more dangerous than Justin.
 
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I genuinely thought the libs were going to squeak by here.

They have erected an echo chamber around themselves, I wonder if anyone is listening to the klaxon sirens going off here.
Something to take into account is that that character of Toronto-St. Paul is decided Liberal, but most are choosing to stay home because they've had enough of Trudeau. There will be more pressure on him to resign because if one of the safest Liberal seats in the country can flip to the Conservatives, every seat in the country outside of Montreal is in play come 2025. Justin, Freehand, and the PMO can blather on about how they are "working hard" for Canadians, but the writing is on the wall here. No one wants him in charge and the only reason why he clings to power is because Jagmeet Singh is so craven and greedy that he will let PMJT step over him while he waits out the clock for a pension. However, this will come at the cost of imploding the NDP as it abandoned its labor roots while the tories ride the populist wave.

I have an uncle who's a lobbyist in Ottawa and he said that the old guard of the LPC loathe Trudeau with a passion. Prominent Chretien-era Liberals like Warren Kinsella and Stephen Le Drew open criticize him and now that many Liberal MPs are facing electoral defeat, there will be pressure on him to resign. The big question is how long it will take for Trudeau to succumb to it. Justin is narcissist of the highest caliber and I have no doubt that he will want to salvage what little of a legacy he has. I don't know of anyone who is talking about the Liberal daycare, dental, or pharmacare plans. Everyone's attention is on the high cost of living and mass immigration, which has to grind his gears. It is possible that he will hang on to power as he can and ram as much legislation as he can because he will get no pushback from the NDP or Bloc. However, he could decide to call a fall election because he would rather go down fighting as well give a final "screw you" to Singh.

In either scenario, things are only going to get worse for the Liberals the longer Trudeau draws this out. They have failed to close the year-long 15-20 point Poilievre's Conservatives had over them and they will have to make hard choices if they ever want to be a relevant force in Canadian politics again.
 
Haha Jen Gerson gets it (A):

Of course, many will see the St. Paul's election as an imminent sign of Justin Trudeau's departure as Prime Minister. I can't rule that out, but I'm not inside the Liberal partisan mindset well enough to rule it in, either.
If Trudeau is going to leave before the next election, he is rapidly eating up runway for his successor. As a sheer matter of practical logistics, he needs to leave this month — or early July at the latest — to allow the party enough to both run a leadership race, and build enough profile and goodwill for his replacement. It's going to be a slog, and frankly, I can think of only a few individuals who possess the strong professional credentials and total lack of political savvy to volunteer to be as popular as Michael Ignatieff and as doomed as Kim Campbell.
It's Mark Carney.
That's it.
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Ladies and gentlemen, I give you: Mark Carney
 
Oh my.
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I genuinely thought the libs were going to squeak by here.

They have erected an echo chamber around themselves, I wonder if anyone is listening to the klaxon sirens going off here.
Damn only 226 votes for PPC

While few and far between, I have actually encountered some IRL avowed & unapologetic Trudeau lovers.

In contrast, I don't think I'm even come across anyone who has anything nice to say about Freeland even online.
I bought her book “Plutocrats” before I realized it was her who wrote the book. Was more attracted to the title and the synopsis than who wrote it.

Haven’t finished it but it’s not a bad book. Too bad she didn’t take her Ukrainian grandfathers lessons to heart

As a last Lul on the By-Election - CBC and City TV both have videos on Youtube covering the results.

The CBC have the comments turned off, and City TV’s Comments are currently roasting the shit out of the Liberals or being surprised Toronto did something nice for the rest of Canada. Either City TV doesn’t give a shit, or they can see which way the wind is blowing for the Libs - the CBC get so much govt funding that no ones surprised those comments are off.

Also as a last thought - didn’t the new Capital Gains tax take effect today? Wonder if that had any effect on this election, considering house prices in Toronto…
Haha Jen Gerson gets it (A):


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Ladies and gentlemen, I give you: Mark Carney
He looks like Liz Warren when she awkwardly grabbed that beer
 
I bought her book “Plutocrats” before I realized it was her who wrote the book. Was more attracted to the title and the synopsis than who wrote it.

Haven’t finished it but it’s not a bad book. Too bad she didn’t take her Ukrainian grandfathers lessons to heart
She has but flipped the script to be anti white Canadians. The system is fascist we witnessed it when Freeland had people's bank accounts frozen. Ukraine is a nazi regime and they are currently sacrificing their population in a futile war against Russia. Be careful what you wish for.
 
She has but flipped the script to be anti white Canadians. The system is fascist we witnessed it when Freeland had people's bank accounts frozen. Ukraine is a nazi regime and they are currently sacrificing their population in a futile war against Russia. Be careful what you wish for.
Canadian system has always been a little on the dictatorial side. Usually, calm and educated statesman would avoid using emergency powers on a whim but Trudeau Senior and Trudeau Junior both broke that record like father like son.


Trudeau legacy is all but fucked with Justin. His daddy didn't leave for much to Canada either. It took 20 fucking years clean up his mess. I am guessing it will take another 20 with this Trudeau.
 
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Canadian system has always been a little on the dictatorial side. Usually, calm and educated statesman would avoid using emergency powers on a whim but Trudeau Senior and Trudeau Junior both broke that record like father like son.
Canada was basically made as a reaction to the American revolution, and wanting more 'sober second thought' in government.
Its less republican by default, and if the house is the people and the senate is the aristocracy,

in theory, Canada leans more on the aristocratic elements of society, that second sober thought and landowner/business owner class.

This can actually work if the people occupying these positions, where they are granted more powers as a whole to enact things, are actually sober, reasoned, have ties directly to the business community, and are a bit conservative (as the designers of the nation intended).

Sure, they may have more powers, but they'd be loathe to use them ever.

You can see some unraveling of this with Trudeau Sr and how he reacted to the frog eaters in Quebec when the FLQ got too uppity, but you can also see how these emergency powers were justified, because they allowed the police to bust through commie Frenchmen's windows to arrest them in the middle of the night without trial, and I'm sure we can all agree that bullying the French, let alone insufferable communist Frenchies who were literally blowing up supermarkets and kidnapping people, is naturally a good thing.

What we have today though, is the opposite. Its where people who are practically drunk on power in comparison, have zero legitimate ties to business communities, are so unconservative they actually troon out kids, are in power and using said power in abusive ways.
You can argue that we had it too good, for too long, and people just got used to allowing anyone into executive power, because the amount of destruction they could cause was seen as inconsequential. Its why so many issues in Canadian politics are not driven by actual issues, but have been driven by dumb culture war things taking precedence over the economy, over bread and butter.

Case in point, energy, gas, oil. We have the largest natural gas deposits in the world, we have more oil than Saudi Arabia. This should be a boon to us, especially in the face of an energy hungry Europe. I'm not saying destroy the environment, but could we at least tap into that a little? Would help so much. People were so unserious about this though, that theyd rather a) not do this, b) tax and regulate away from attempts to develop the energy sector, and c) do this when Canada is literally becoming more and more unaffordable by the day. This is, taking culture war issues (global warming), and placing them as more important than bread and butter issues. A decade + of this, ranging from green energy to immigration, has destroyed this nation.

A lot of this does tie back to the argument that you should never entrust so much power within public officials, because when someone uneducated is in power they will start abusing it, so its better to have checks and balances rather than relying solely on 'enlightened sobered politicians managing a state effectively'- but thats how we got to where we are today
 
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Canada was basically made as a reaction to the American revolution, and wanting more 'sober second thought' in government.
Its less republican by default, and if the house is the people and the senate is the aristocracy,

in theory, Canada leans more on the aristocratic elements of society, that second sober thought and landowner/business owner class.

This can actually work if the people occupying these positions, where they are granted more powers as a whole to enact things, are actually sober, reasoned, have ties directly to the business community, and are a bit conservative (as the designers of the nation intended).

Sure, they may have more powers, but they'd be loathe to use them ever.

What we have today though, is the opposite. Its where people who are practically drunk on power in comparison, have zero legitimate ties to business communities, are so unconservative they actually troon out kids, are in power and using said power in abusive ways.

A lot of this does tie back to the argument that you should never entrust so much power within public officials, because when someone uneducated is in power they will start abusing it, so its better to have checks and balances rather than relying solely on 'enlightened sobered politicians managing a state effectively'- but thats how we got to where we are today
We truly have a new Family Compact. William Mackenzie and Louis Papineau did nothing wrong in their 1837 Upper and Lower Canadian Rebellions.
 
We truly have a new Family Compact. William Mackenzie and Louis Papineau did nothing wrong in their 1837 Upper and Lower Canadian Rebellions.
At least the family compact arguably didnt shit where they ate and just hated the Irish, French, and other Catholics.

Even they managed the state better than this lunacy.
 
calm down
She has but flipped the script to be anti white Canadians. The system is fascist we witnessed it when Freeland had people's bank accounts frozen. Ukraine is a nazi regime and they are currently sacrificing their population in a futile war against Russia. Be careful what you wish for.
russian swine.you are even lower than Hindu Dalits. The shape of your head and face is inhuman. waste of nature. You are the result of a biological experiment and an unnatural life form. I see this clearly. You are schizoid biotrash who is trying to present fiction as truth.Schizorus are zombies and can only cause damage, sow evil, and spit out their mucus. you are proud and arrogant and deceitful and sadistic.you are a Russian pig, half breed bio-trash, inferior, defective. your life means nothing, you're like a bacterium. your race is lousy.
 
Serious question to canadians why are you still in canada? Crime is out of hand , you arent allowed to defend yourself and there is no end to migrants and cost of living increases . You might have better chance at getting a house and some savings in Brazil or any of the latin american countries who actually clamp down on crime and try to make themselves attractive for migrants without taxes and DEI mandatory torture . They beg for educated people
 
russian swine.you are even lower than Hindu Dalits. The shape of your head and face is inhuman. waste of nature. You are the result of a biological experiment and an unnatural life form. I see this clearly. You are schizoid biotrash who is trying to present fiction as truth.Schizorus are zombies and can only cause damage, sow evil, and spit out their mucus. you are proud and arrogant and deceitful and sadistic.you are a Russian pig, half breed bio-trash, inferior, defective. your life means nothing, you're like a bacterium. your race is lousy.
no u
 
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Serious question to canadians why are you still in canada? Crime is out of hand , you arent allowed to defend yourself and there is no end to migrants and cost of living increases . You might have better chance at getting a house and some savings in Brazil or any of the latin american countries who actually clamp down on crime and try to make themselves attractive for migrants without taxes and DEI mandatory torture . They beg for educated people
We have nowhere else to go. Even if we have a professional job (The US and European country would rather sponsor Jeet and Chink Accountants, Financial analysts and tech workers)
 
Serious question to canadians why are you still in canada? Crime is out of hand , you arent allowed to defend yourself and there is no end to migrants and cost of living increases . You might have better chance at getting a house and some savings in Brazil or any of the latin american countries who actually clamp down on crime and try to make themselves attractive for migrants without taxes and DEI mandatory torture . They beg for educated people
Some of it may be a lingering attachment to the Canada that existed before Trudeau and his cronies shit all over it. Plus, I don't know what I would do with myself in a place like Costa Rica or Panama. Something to note is that the malaise that has gripped Canada is present across the western world where a deep sense of self-loathing is pushing our culture to suicide. All we can really do is brace ourselves for a societal collapse that will rival the fall of the Roman Republic if we are lucky.
 
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