Red Letter Media

[wagglyplacebo]

Honestly, I'm still just shocked that they liked Prey!

 

[I'm a Silly]

They treat a lot of Disney stuff with kid gloves it seems. A real bad one was Indiana Jones DOD. They hardly brought up the biggest problem was the girlboss chick showing up Indy and pissing everyone off. They are male feminists. I don't know how hardcore, but you rarely see them attacking anything that hard by Kennedy. Even in this one they kind of mock the idea that she's really a big part of the problem, kind of the opposite of how South Park dealt with it. And SP was right.

The concept of feminism has been astroturfed and dumbed down to the level of promoting bugmen "buying sex" from stunning and brave "transwomen."
None of that shit centers the need for women to control their own destinies, and in fact it flies in the face of everything feminists stood for.
These men don't even practice surface-level feminist behaviors; if they did, they wouldn't have shown a rape scene in one of the BOTW [especially w/o a heads-up] and they would be as reluctant to say words like 'bitch' in the same way they avoid saying 'nigger' or 'kike.'
This is similar to something done on an episode on This American Life, in which there was a special warning placed in the podcast audio before the scary nigger word was used, yet in the same episode, bitch flowed like 'and' or 'the.'
This is very basic shitlib behavior. Shitlib males are afraid of getting reamed in prison by BBC [Tom from the Boondocks was a stand-in for this type] and that is why they kneel to Tyrone. They are craven cowards. Jay being a "male feminist" means he would be happy to push an old granny down a flight of stairs to protect a troon from being misgendered. I don't think even he is that extreme, but I do think most of these men have Heebatodes in their brains that prevent them from doing anything but worship niggers.


I continue to be awed at the outsized focus on Beardfat for anything when the above is true of everyone in RLM.

related -- from discussion of Jay & Mike liking Last of Us and Gen V

They've always seemed like bog-standard liberal Americans to me -- you know, with all the *right* opinions, and any pushback against regime-enforced material was always born out of cynicism. That's why it was so funny when [seems like a million years ago] Reddit had all those AmericanHistoryX/Mike memes.

 

[wtfNeedSignUp]

So have this meme gone full meta?

 

[Battlefield2142EU]

I watched the re:View of The Acolyte. It's very confused with what exactly they're trying to say. On the one hand, they lament over fans who take this too seriously and the click-bait/rage-bait channels do their thing. Which is understandable. Then they highlight the propaganda and performative wokeness. I had no idea that the retards at Disney put Stacy Abrams in a Star Wars thing as some fat Jedi or General or whatever the fuck. There is no way that you can see that and their methods of propaganda and media manipulation that there isn't an agenda being pushed. Especially a massive corporation like Disney. There's simply no way. But Mike and Rich kind of deny it all but sheepishly and half-assed.

I get it. The Patreon dollars could vanish if they say the wrong thing but then don't even make the fucking video. Grow some balls and take a stand in what you believe. It reminds me of the Plinkett review of Phantom Menace where Mike straight up calls out the casting of Samuel L. Jackson was done to cater to a black audience that otherwise would not be interested in Star Wars.

I also understand that the guys are center-left but the video comes off as a Leftist struggling to comprehend the reality of the situation.

I suspect Mike might have Linkara syndrome. Jay and Rich play characters. Beginning to doubt Mike playing a character. This video was just Mike rambling. Even Rich looked confused about what point Mike was trying to make.

Anyway, they should stop talking about bullshit they either don't understand or don't want to actually talk about without fearing demonitization.

It's more proof red letter media should've focused on B-movies and weird VHS instead of talking about mainstream media. Outside old Star Wars prequel rants. The majority of RLM spawn from best of the worst.

 

[StarkRavingMad]

Stumbled upon this Star Wars Theory video:

Yeah, what a "manbaby." What a "loser." Am I right guys?

This dude seriously just came across as one of the nicest and most down to earth YouTubers to meet their fans ever in this video. At this point, Mike just sounds like the loner kid who was jealous of the popular kid at school, without the self-awareness to know that the popular kid is popular because he isn't an uppity asshole. lol.

 

[Tepes Thot]

This dude seriously just came across as one of the nicest and most down to earth YouTubers to meet their fans ever in this video.

From what I’ve been told, he formed an attachment to Star Wars as a kid because he had cancer, and he chose to focus on that. He refused to say anything negative, or join a hate train for years until this show broke him. He finally couldn’t defend Disney/Star Wars anymore.

Is he really a guy that needs to be thrown in with the other subjects? They sound like the people on Twitter right now accusing Jeremy Jahns of being one of the “usual suspects”. They’re basically making a case for there to be no way to criticize this stuff without immediately being labeled a culture warrior.

 

[Battlefield2142EU]

At this point, Mike just sounds like the loner kid who was jealous of the popular kid at school, without the self-awareness to know that the popular kid is popular because he isn't an uppity asshole. lol.

It got to the point of Mike just projecting onto the internet. Mike went from being the face of the red letter media company to being the butt of the joke in culture of memes. Mike used to be the best looking guy in the trio, becoming fatter than Rich Evans himself. It looks like he lasts out with the fans for liking Rich and Jay better. Mike could be coming down with an early mental illness.

 

[StarkRavingMad]

From what I’ve been told, he formed an attachment to Star Wars as a kid because he had cancer, and he chose to focus on that. He refused to say anything negative, or join a hate train for years until this show broke him. He finally couldn’t defend Disney/Star Wars anymore.

Is he really a guy that needs to be thrown in with the other subjects? They sound like the people on Twitter right now accusing Jeremy Jahns of being one of the “usual suspects”. They’re basically making a case for there to be no way to criticize this stuff without immediately being labeled a culture warrior.

Dude. I wasn't even subscribed to Star Wars Theory (because, honestly, I'm just checked out of Star Wars at this point), but I may just do it now.

The more I hear about him, the more I like him. Based on the little bits I've seen of him (I've watched a lot of his Cobra Kai Theory videos-- that's how I found out about him in the first place), he just seems like a genuinely solid dude who just wants to enjoy things (and DOES enjoy things).

Mike editing the clip of him in the Acolyte video (while making the point of "think of the starving children in Africa") just really rubbed me the wrong way. Now I'm finding out the dude had cancer as a kid? Wow. Wow wow wow. Mike can go eat shit at this point. Regardless of how I feel about some of the "culture warriors" online, I really do want them to drag RLM for this video. I really hope it happens. Mike is probably entirely ignorant of Star Wars Theory's life story, but he's still the one making the bad faith generalizations while acting like a sanctimonious prick, and it needs to bite him in the ass.

 

[Drag-on Knight 91873]

Honestly, I'm still just shocked that they liked Prey!

Are we talking Prey, the Predator movie or some crappy 80s B movie named Prey? Because that movie falls under the Furiosa category where the movie itself is good enough, but the female lead is lacking in the physicality department.

 

[Tepes Thot]

Dude. I wasn't even subscribed to Star Wars Theory (because, honestly, I'm just checked out of Star Wars at this point), but I may just do it now.

The more I hear about him, the more I like him. Based on the little bits I've seen of him (I've watched a lot of his Cobra Kai Theory videos-- that's how I found out about him in the first place), he just seems like a genuinely solid dude who just wants to enjoy things (and DOES enjoy things).

Mike editing the clip of him in the Acolyte video (while making the point of "think of the starving children in Africa") just really rubbed me the wrong way. Now I'm finding out the dude had cancer as a kid? Wow. Wow wow wow. Mike can go eat shit at this point. Regardless of how I feel about some of the "culture warriors" online, I really do want them to drag RLM for this video. I really hope it happens. Mike is probably entirely ignorant of Star Wars Theory's life story, but he's still the one making the bad faith generalizations while acting like a sanctimonious prick, and it needs to bite him in the ass.

Yeah, I don’t know Star Wars and don’t usually comment on that fandom/content, but people kept saying how big of a deal it was that he had a negative opinion so I got curious. Would’ve been nice if Mike did one of his boomer notes on him and then he might’ve known too.

They should’ve just filmed a best of the worst.

 

[Coolio55]

Haven't bothered with anything Star Trek since the farce that was Into Darkness. It was one of the few times that I laughed so hard in the movie theater because something was so hilariously bad. I was incapable of internalizing the secondhand embarrassment I felt while watching that godawful movie.

I apologize for the late reply but I'm having flashbacks to the superfan who watched it early because he was dying of terminal something and I can't tell if that's the cruelest or most humane thing in history.

 

[wagglyplacebo]

Are we talking Prey, the Predator movie or some crappy 80s B movie named Prey? Because that movie falls under the Furiosa category where the movie itself is good enough, but the female lead is lacking in the physicality department.

That garbage pile predator movie.

 

[draggs]

I think Mike doesn't particularly care but he thinks he has to act like he cares, and can't figure out how he is supposed to show that he cares in a way that isn't forced. He feels some kind of pressure that he creates himself. Like he says over and over how fascinated he is by "the discourse" while trying to act like he's detached from it because "the discourse" is retarded. If you find it fascinating you're not detached from it

Unlike Rich Evans, who just doesn't give a shit anymore and will say so and give a consistent, concise explanation why. Repeatedly. And will retreat into basic exasperated humor to shield himself from going insane

Rich is just a guy who grew up as a dweeb, who was happy growing up as a dweeb, and who matured into a regular guy who is still a bit of a dweeb. Mike (and Jay) are not so well-adjusted

 

[LaughJoke2.0]

Don't worry-- Disney did their part in the cringefest by giving Lizzo (another hamplanet) a part in one of the Mando Season 3 episodes.

This is why I never saw Filoni as the "Savior" of Star Wars that some fans have. Season 1 of Mandalorian was pretty great but it was a self-contained story with new characters, and I think that was all Favreau. Season 2 was ok, but it started adding Clone Wars era people and that was Filoni and season 3 was everything bad of season 2 and none of the good of season 1 IMO Favreau checked out with Season 3 and it was a Filoni production. God help us with him now trying to add his creations to Thrawn with Ashoka. Filoni rant over back to RLM.

Edited for typo.

 

[Well Intentioned]

I really don't understand the furor over the Acolyte video. It's pretty much the same shit as usual and par for the course for them.

Their comments about the culture war stuff was in relation to the usual suspects shitting their pants over a media tour interview talking about 'gay robots.' Mike even says something along the lines of 'I care about what's in the show,' something which he's done since the Plinkett reviews where he says he doesn't give a shit if something was explained in a book or video game, because what matters is the movie.

RLM does take things like press junkets and DVD commentary tracks to make their points, usually to explain things like decisions behind the film making process. You could argue that that's what the outrage merchants are doing, but I dunno.

I'd argue the same thing with the shots of Lego Palpatine. It's juxtaposed with people saying shit like Star Wars is now 'post-modernist Marxist deconstruction blahblahblah' stuff when a) that shit tends to fly over the RLM guys heads 99% of the time and b) the odds Disney cares about anything beyond Disney+ subscriptions is unlikely.

And yeah, the 'starving people' line is pretty tonedeaf...which they admit to like 2 seconds later and acknowledge they aren't much better.

 

[Skeletron Prime]

I really don't understand the furor over the Acolyte video.

Probably going to seem like denial, but I ain't even mad. It's more of a culmination of my thoughts I've had watching RLM, especially HitB, for the past few years.

The only thing this really effects for me is that I'm not bothering to watch their content outside of the non-modern Re:Views and BotW. They excel when they can use their filmmaking knowledge and experience to tear apart shit movies or discuss something older with meaning to them. I'm not interested in watching them circle but never internalize the idea that DEI and the like is a creative dead end, and acting like they're above poo-touching when they're blatantly prodding it with a stick.

 

[sneedem&feedem]

And yeah, the 'starving people' line is pretty tonedeaf...which they admit to like 2 seconds later and acknowledge they aren't much better.

Did we watch the same video? I agree they  tried to acknowledge they aaren't much better. But immediately said, "well Kirk is more important than Ki Adi Mundi." When they about nerdy lore it's okay, when others don't they should be caring about starving Africans.

It's what they always do. They never fully commit. "We're above the culture war." *proceeds to waste an hour on it*

 

[frozen_runner]

Hard disagree on this.

They took NO high road in this video. And they're not staying out of the "tired Fandom Menace crap" because they literally used clips of some of them in really bad faith, especially Star Wars Theory (who became an involuntary part of the Fandom Menace because he dared to not like something that Disney shat out, finally).

If anything, they invited themselves INTO the said-crap by posting this insanely pretentious and hypocritical video.

I can't bring myself to be too angry with one video I disagreed with from a channel that virtually always creates great content and has done that consistently for over a decade. I just don't have the energy to be mad on the internet that they disagree with me or have blind spots like everyone else on Earth does.

It's enough to say I find their take confusing and that this video has slightly colored my perception of them. Their "centrist at every cost" position (which, I think the editing choices themselves indicate, is a somewhat conflicted one) is tiresome when it comes to the endless niggerfaggotication of everything in culture. Yes, there IS something wrong with forced "diversity," because racial diversity itself is not inherently a good thing that improves products, and forcing content is bullshit. It's not a neutral, innocent fact of the production, either. It comes from a clear activist mindset that results in shitty art and shitty entertainment. To paraphrase Robert Meyer Burnett, it places the show's universe above its story and characters. And even telling a great story with lameass modern day church lady modifications to the cast is not acceptable. Someone get this shit out of my shows, please.

(I will say that you can make something truly great with political undertones I disagree with, though. The feminist bullshit inherent in Fury Road does not prevent it from being a monumentally great action film, and the similar symbolism in the first season of Westworld did not hobble it at all. That came later.)

But I do not tune into RLM to hear political takes, and since they almost never provide them, I'll be fine. It's just that, in the future, I will know to ignore them when it comes to any subject that would require them to be something other than Reasonable Centrists.

Their hyperbole about starving kids in Africa... Jesus fucking Christ, are you really going to trot out that tired old argument to make a point about people having priorities? From the people that made several detailed, multiple-hour reviews of the prequel trilogy and more?

I didn't like how that came across in the video, though it did kind of make me laugh.

I do understand why people are upset at what Disney is doing, because the square-headed ugly dyke showrunner is definitely thumbing her hooked nose at the audience, and her team is one part of a massive trend to POZ everything. That's something worth opposing.

But, to quote Jay from the Kenobi review, Star Wars is trash now. It's been trash since the prequels. (Which are terrible movies.) And getting extremely animated and angry about Disney doing the shit that now defines them as modern-day Disney... it's kind of silly at a certain point. (I think this is why the video keeps cutting to the dreadful footage of Storm Troopers and Boba Fett and Vader dancing at Disney World for dumb, cheering parkgoers.) And it's especially silly when you get paid to, essentially, have one predictable opinion online about the franchise because of audience capture, and when you're endlessly making ragebait thumbnails for your lameass videos on the same subject over and over again. Even Chris Gore of Film Threat (who is a straight shooter in my book) essentially started last week's Versus podcast which was about the 3rd episode of Acolyte by apologizing that they're still talking about this crap. Because he knows something about it is tiresome and borders on feeling inauthentic, just feeding an algo-driven fire by sperging over bad television.

Haven't bothered with anything Star Trek since the farce that was Into Darkness. It was one of the few times that I laughed so hard in the movie theater because something was so hilariously bad. I was incapable of internalizing the secondhand embarrassment I felt while watching that godawful movie.

You might appreciate this video and channel.

 

[TheRaptorJesus]

Their hyperbole about starving kids in Africa... Jesus fucking Christ, are you really going to trot out that tired old argument to make a point about people having priorities?

Remember disney paid $180m for this slop and all the youtube rage-bait videos won't break $1m total. Want to talk about starving africans and war?

 

[sneedem&feedem]

Someone posted about Star Wars theory on the subreddit and it's going as well as you think.

https://reddit.com/r/RedLetterMedia/comments/1dpqgeh/the_youtuber_rlm_mocked_that_he_should_care_more/