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[Lurker Child]

https://kiwifarms.st/threads/dr-disrespect-permanently-banned-from-twitch.72305/post-18693731

Actually pretty mild by my standards, not sure why people are seething so hard.

That take so hot it got me like:

lmao. Also, you posted that during an active BPD (Beauty Parlor Deployment) on the thread, so naturally you'd get seething.

Anyway, this affair spurned some thoughts:
I. With the evidence of which I'm aware, those calling Dr. Disrespect a pedophile are being retarded. Until I see that the girl was younger than 16, calling him a pedophile is utterly unwarranted. Nor is it necessary. He's a scumbag who cheated on his woman and an idiot who tried catching tail on Twitch of all places (naturally fucking a tranny in the process). People, especially here, like the word "pedo" far too much. It's a deeply serious accusation. You don't accuse someone of that without hard evidence.

II. 16,17 year olds are not children. Nor are they adults. They are in a transitionary period. While how they deal with adults differs by culture and country, from my experience I'd prescribe the following. As an adult man, you don't deal with anyone under 18. Practically you shouldn't. 18 is when everyone either goes to uni or to work, so seeing someone younger automatically makes indecent thoughts indecent. At that age, boys want to be men and girls want to be women sooner than later, it's only natural, but to any real adult, particularly a man, the farce should be recognized and ignored. They don't get a seat at the table until they really are adults. We were all there at some point. We should remember.

III. Finding 16,17 year olds attractive is, in my experience, benign. Calling it ephebophilia is gay. Calling it pedophilia is malicious.

IV. The whole "half your age plus seven" rule is bullshit. When you're in your 20's, anyone >=18 is fair game. Though usually you'd only deal with >=20 by circumstance. However, past your 20's the actual rule comes into play: With your woman, can you feasibly be her father? If so, then it's haram.

Some miscellaneous points:
- The age of consent is exactly where it should be and if you have to consider it in your relations then you should reconsider your relations. The only maturity law I despise is the drinking age. In Europe it's <=18. In America it's 21. What a fucking joke. Nobody respects the law unless they have to. From my experience, the real drinking age in America is something like 16 or 17. It should be 18 but NOOO! M.A.D.D. (Mothers Against Drunk Driving) just had to get it raised. There. There's the thread tax. If I hear someone say "19 year old minor" I'm going to throw a book at them.

- People who talk about woodchippers and relish torturing pedophiles are just as suspect as pedophiles. I'm a simple man. I see someone messing with kids, I shoot them in the head. That's all anyone should ever need: that the pedo's dead.

- If you're <18 then you shouldn't be allowed to speak on the Internet. You can be allowed on the Internet, but Squeakers' Law should apply: "Keep your mouth shut!" Want to talk? Get some RL friends. Go work out. The Internet is your leisure, not your life!

 

[Ser Prize]

This is what I'm talking about. This forum has become way way way too serious. No one laughs or makes fun of shit anymore.

It's all performative hand wringing and virtue signaling.

At this point KF is basically reddit where you can say nigger, very much a shadow of its former self.

Joys of the site getting more and more feminist, I'm afraid.

@Lurker Child

In modern discourse anyone under twenty five is considered 'a literal child' by fussy broads. Funny that didn't stop them from boning late twenties/early thirties guys in their late teens and early twenties.

 

[The Ugly One]

I think the last fifty years have shown that the "age of consent" concept is flawed because women cannot own their decisions at any age whatsoever.

 

[Lurker Child]

I think the last fifty years have shown that the "age of consent" concept is flawed because women cannot own their decisions at any age whatsoever.

Whenever I think about women avoiding accountability, I think about Neo dodging bullets in the original Matrix film, because watching women dodge their responsibility honestly sometimes feels like watching someone dodge bullets.

In modern discourse anyone under twenty five is considered 'a literal child' by fussy broads.

That is just cope and jealously about younger women. Maybe men have something similar, with a young buck being put in his place by an older, established man in some business or trade. But you really notice it with women. A young woman is beautiful in the same way a glass of water is refreshing. Older women can still be beautiful, but not so obviously. There is a point to be made though about (wo)manchildren in our society. But that's more a failure of culture and an epidemic of arrested development than genuine human nature.

 

[The Ugly One]

Maybe men have something similar, with a young buck being put in his place by an older, established man in some business or trade.

90% of the time, it's because the old guys see themselves in the young guy and want to slap him onto the path to someday becoming a successful old guy who doesn't fuck things up with the same mistakes we made. Some old guys are just dicks who feel threatened by young guys.

Women hate each other, and old women just hate young women. They don't want to stop them from making mistakes. They want them to make even worse mistakes so they feel validated.

 

[anustart76]

What, and let a woman drive?

If you let a woman use your car for a week, it'll be full of garbage by the end of it.

 

[DumbDude43]

I think the last fifty years have shown that the "age of consent" concept is flawed because women cannot own their decisions at any age whatsoever.

the real redpill is to outlaw all relations outside of marriage and replace age of consent laws with age of marriage laws
this completely eradicates all the 'exploitation' that femoids bitch about whenever rich and famous celebrities bang their little groupie sluts

 

[The Hardest R]

https://kiwifarms.st/threads/dr-disrespect-permanently-banned-from-twitch.72305/post-18693731

Actually pretty mild by my standards, not sure why people are seething so hard.

The post after yours quoted Logan Drip and I then realized why that discussion is a dumpster fire. I know jack shit about Dr. Disrespect. At this point, I can just skim the thread to see who’s involved in the discussion to know if it’s a valuable or not.

The internet is an incredible place.
Can't believe some women are still mad about Hilary losing and Amber heard getting roasted.

Like get over it your blonde psychopathic slay princess phenotype got destroyed get over it.

Amber Heard losing effectively killed off #BelieveAllWomen because foids were happy that simps would just believe whatever was said without any evidence provided whatsoever. You had to support Amber Heard because…you just have to, ok?

If you let a woman use your car for a week, it'll be full of garbage by the end of it.

Girls are slobs. I don’t hear much about girls being cleaner than guys these days. If you go to a random thot’s place it’ll just be a giant sea of pizza boxes, unwashed laundry, random Amazon boxes, all strewn randomly about.

I think the last fifty years have shown that the "age of consent" concept is flawed because women cannot own their decisions at any age whatsoever.

Modern women have demonstrated why coverture was a thing and why it’ll eventually come back in the long term.

At this point we need to establish Kiwi’s Law: the moment when someone is accused of being a tranny lover or a pedophile. Every thread in Kiwi Farms these days devolves to accusing as many people as possible of these two things. Every time. It could be about the weather and some dong will want to talk about chicks with dicks in it.

 

[Chuck McGill]

I think the last fifty years have shown that the "age of consent" concept is flawed because women cannot own their decisions at any age whatsoever.

The issue with the age of consent is that it creates a unique pocket of time from when you hit puberty to the age of 18. In this pocket of time, you want to fuck more than you ever have. And the only people you are legally able to fuck are just as idiotic and naive as you are and are almost always unable to offer any level of commitment, meaning you have effectively four years of random consequense-free and commitment-free sex to completely skew your perspective going forward. And to add insult to injury you're very much encouraged to play the field, marrying your high school sweetheart is considered the fuddy-duddy thing to do. If we were really committed to the idea that under-18s shouldn't fuck, we'd gender segregate our schools until 18, but for some reason we've decided it's actually really healthy and really wholesome for teenagers to have meaningless flings. Probably because the Jewish movies they watched told them that teen love is super romantic and a critical part of growing up.

 

[The Ugly One]

Right, what people are totally missing from this conversation is that the societies everyone spergs out about didn't have an "age of consent," i.e. an age at which it was perfectly acceptable for you to fuck any and everyone older than you that was willing. If you time-traveled back to 17th century Spain, you'd be allowed to court a 16 year old girl with the intention of marrying her some time between ages of 18 and 20, which the harridans on this site define as "pedophilia," but having sex with her was a criminal offense.

 

[Sniperwoof]

Is there any actual sauce for that claim I keep seeing from Beauty Parlor posters in the DD thread that child brides never existed and hundreds of years ago no one ever got married before 25?

They keep posting it over and over again but I can't find anything to back up the claim that no one in medieval England ever married until roughly 50% of the way into their lifespan.

I could very well be wrong but I don't think hypermodern progressive concepts like an age of consent existed in 1528 and if they somehow did illiterate dirt eating peasants didn't abide by them.

 

[DumbDude43]

Is there any actual sauce for that claim I keep seeing from Beauty Parlor posters in the DD thread that child brides never existed and hundreds of years ago the average age for someone to get married was 25?

They keep posting it over and over again but I can't find anything to back up the claim that no one in medieval England ever married until roughly 50% of the way into their lifespan.

it's spinster cope
closest data i can find is this:

generally what little statistical data exists from before the 20th century is dubious in quality, if it exists at all, which basically gives everyone carte blanche to make up whatever fits their personal agenda (and we all know what agenda the professional anthropologists at western universities have, so better take whatever comes out of those circles with a huge grain of salt)

the best you can really do for ancient times is look at noteworthy people and check their birth and marriage dates.
for example, let's look at george washington: born 1732, married his wife martha (born 1731) in 1759, when she was 28. seems to line up with their claims, yes?
but when you look at marthas biography, you see that by the time she married george she was already a widow. she had married her first husband (some guy named daniel custis) almost a decade earlier:

At the age of 37, Custis met 16-year-old Martha Dandridge at the St. Peter's Church where Martha attended and Custis was a vestryman. Custis's father John disapproved of the relationship but eventually relented. After a two-year courtship, Custis and Dandridge were married on May 15, 1750. The couple lived at Custis's plantation called the White House in New Kent County, Virginia. They had four children.

if you skim through biographical information on famous people of the past, you can find lots of information like this. it's never going to be representative data of course, but it does give you an idea about how things were generally done at the time and what was or wasn't considered normal. late teens / early twenties is a common find throughout the centuries and across the globe.

 

[The Ugly One]

if you skim through biographical information on famous people of the past, you can find lots of information like this. it's never going to be representative data of course, but it does give you an idea about how things were generally done at the time and what was or wasn't considered normal. late teens / early twenties is a common find throughout the centuries and across the globe.

Most people in most times and places figured out that age of menarche is a little on the young side to marry off a girl, and that teenagers are retards. But around the world, you'll find variation from 16 to 25 as the age in which it was "normal" for a woman to be married. Normalizing the idea that you should just have lots of sex with random people and not even start thinking about marriage until age thirty is civilizational suicide; you don't find it anywhere outside the 21st century.

I realized at one point that the "age of consent" was not when women were mentally mature enough to consent (because some of them never mentally mature) but the age to which sexual relations are seen as acceptable by the society at large.

In lots of societies, a woman's sexual activity with anyone other than her husband has been seen as unacceptable. That's why the "age of consent" concept isn't transferable to other cultures.

 

[David Kirk Ginder]

I think the last fifty years have shown that the "age of consent" concept is flawed because women cannot own their decisions at any age whatsoever.

If they want to raise the age of consent to 25 to protect women, go for it. But they lose the right to vote until 25. How about that?

the real redpill is to outlaw all relations outside of marriage and replace age of consent laws with age of marriage laws
this completely eradicates all the 'exploitation' that femoids bitch about whenever rich and famous celebrities bang their little groupie sluts

Wasn't that how it was done decades ago? Isn't that what our grand and great-grandparents did? Established stable 35+ year old man weds virgin 15 year old. He impregnates her knowing his child is actually his. She gets lifetime support from him (til death do us part) for his "early access pass." An older man marrying (eg long term relationship) a young girl is more agreeable than our sexually liberated culture of casual sex.

 

[JoseRaulChupacabra]

Didn't people in the past have a very pragmatic view of marriage? Like, it's as much a business/financial arrangement as it is a romantic one. You can make the case that it still kind of is today. It's just got more layers of abstraction built on top.

Honestly debating about the age of consent is a psyop to distract from lowering the drinking age.

Who never engaged in underage drinking? I don't know anyone who didn't at least have a bottle of beer before whatever age the government says it is.

if you skim through biographical information on famous people of the past, you can find lots of information like this. it's never going to be representative data of course, but it does give you an idea about how things were generally done at the time and what was or wasn't considered normal. late teens / early twenties is a common find throughout the centuries and across the globe.

I feel like we're falling into a trap discussing this shit where they'll just point and say: "SEE! THEY'RE ALL PEDOS." But I'll bite anyway.

Josephine de Beauharnais (later Bonaparte) was married at 16, had 2 kids shortly after. She met Napoleon in her 30's and soon married. Because they're French, they cheated on each other. Regardless of that fact, they loved each other to the bitter end. She could not produce an heir for Napoleon so she got dropped for a Habsburg princess, Marie Louise who was 18 at the time she was wed and shortly after, had a (crucially) male heir for Napoleon.

It was all for nought as Napoleon dropped the ball in Russia and subsequently got BTFO by the Sixth Coalition.

 

[The Ugly One]

Wasn't that how it was done decades ago? Isn't that what our grand and great-grandparents did? Established stable 35+ year old man weds virgin 15 year old.

You're either joking or retarded if you think 20+ year age gaps with middle-aged men marrying teen brides was common in the 20th century. Typical was a woman from 19 to 23 marrying a man 3 to 5 years older than her, and it was not normal to still be a bachelor as you pushed forty.

 

[Lurker Child]

Who never engaged in underage drinking? I don't know anyone who didn't at least have a bottle of beer before whatever age the government says it is.

Even I, someone who only drinks socially, had some boxed wine at age 20. I was at a party and thought, "This is bullshit. Fuck it, give me a cup." It tasted like utter shit though.

I feel like we're falling into a trap discussing this shit

This is the sense I always get whenever the age of consent gets brought up.

She met Napoleon in her 30's and soon married.

>marries a milf
>cheats on her with multiple women
>invents the baguette
>tells his soldiers: "there is nothing better than an onion for marching on the road to glory."

For these reasons and many more, I once told a Québécoise I knew: "Napoléon didn't just fight for France. He was France."

 

[SwanSwanson]

I de transed years ago after realizing the cult was retarded and full of subhumans. Funny, I thought radfems were supposed to worship people like me but I guess that's only true if you want infinity niggers and browns everywhere.

Like nine years ago this site wasn't primarily about being so obsessed with troons that you mutter about them in your sleep and check for them under your mashed potatoes.

The troon ideology is so pervasive it convinced you at some point, but us being worried about them? No that's just us being weird obsessors.

 

[I glow in the dark]

Like nine years ago this site wasn't primarily about being so obsessed with troons that you mutter about them in your sleep and check for them under your mashed potatoes.

Ok yea, fair, we shouldn't be mad at the subculture that is trannydom despite the fact they openly not just want to destroy the site, but also dox and get every person on here who's ever posted killed. They only hate us because we know what pinkpilling is and what their gay grooming dog whistles are, and it is hard to get people on this site to buy unfounded claims.

 

[Abraham Lincoln]

Has the council made a final decision yet?