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RybenZ999 said:
As funny as it is to watch annoying retards on reddit freak out over the debate, I do wish Trump wasn't such a massive Israel shill. I'm not even an Arab but I wish he would tone down the "Zionist shill" aspect. I guess this could apply to both candidates. Biden has switched sides on his policies since the start of his political career, except for when it comes to Israel towards which he has always had undying loyalty. Trump has flip flopped on his policies in interviews, but when the topic of Israel comes up the man just can't help but brag about his Jewish grandkids and how much he loves "God's chosen land"

The two candidates for the position of the leader of the "free world" and they only thing they have ever been consistent on in their life is how much of a cuck they are for Israel.
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The key difference I think is that Biden is pandering to Israel itself (because about half his base is violently anti-Israel at this point, so he isn't pandering to them when he talks about supporting Israel), mostly for money and because that's what he was paid to do his entire political career.

While Trump is really just pandering to idiot Evangelicals that think the Jews are God's chosen people, and get hard whenever someone talks about giving Israel money. Even putting the Embassy in Jerusalem was more about taking away a perpetual "promise" from the establishment's reelection playbook, so they can't endlessly run on eventually doing it. Trump needs the Evangelical votes, and appearing to pander on Israel also gets some of the neocon pressure off his back.

It's been pretty clear for a long while that the Israeli leadership don't like Trump just based on their own actions, and he's thrown some shade at them as well, albeit indirectly:
“You’ve got to get it over with, and you have to get back to normalcy. And I’m not sure that I’m loving the way they’re doing it, because you’ve got to have victory. You have to have a victory, and it’s taking a long time,” Trump said in an interview with The Hugh Hewitt Show that aired Thursday.

Trump defended comments he made recently in an interview with Israeli newspaper Israel Hayom, in which he said Israel needed to “finish up” its war with Hamas and that the country was “losing a lot of support” among the world.~~~

“What I said very plainly is get it over with, and let’s get back to peace and stop killing people. And that’s a very simple statement. Get it over with. They’ve got to finish what they finish. They have to get it done. Get it over with, and get it over with fast, because we have to, you have to get back to normalcy and peace,” Trump told The Hugh Hewitt Show. “They’ve got to finish what they started, and they’ve got to finish it fast, and we have to get on with life.”

Trump continued arguing Israel had an issue with its public messaging and said, “Israel is absolutely losing the PR war.”

“And the other thing is I hate, they put out tapes all the time. Every night, they’re releasing tapes of a building falling down. They shouldn’t be releasing tapes like that. They’re doing, that’s why they’re losing the PR war. They, Israel is absolutely losing the PR war,” Trump said.
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All of that is Trump saying the Israeli government sucks at fighting Hamas, they're lame and weak, and they suck at public relations too. If he were just trying to blow smoke up their yamaka's, he wouldn't have mocked them like this.
 
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As an aside, did any streamers who called CNN's bluff get hit? Any memers or clippers get hit? Or is CNN still in full on shock?
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It’s entirely the latter, they balked at the idea that people would take Biden’s words out of context and be ‘cheap faked’, but then debate night came and everyone could smell Joe’s diaper through the screen. Some after debate press admitted that Biden was trained on all the questions and still failed. Essentially the Dems own network threw their guy under the bus because it would make the media look worse if they tried to lie about how awful Joe was. CNN might not claim anything yet but that doesn’t speak to the White House requests in the future to nuke everything after Biden is exonerated and declared ineffabled and not mentally present.
 
I figured they were going to force Joe out when they let his kid get convicted. That's the leverage. The replacement has to be someone who arrives on scene with national name recognition, so the replacement pool is basically 3 people, all women. God damn did they cock themselves to death by stabbing Cuomo in the back over his China stance. Fucking women, dude... Lunatics..
 
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I hate how often all of these assholes use the word "folks" now. I feel like its something that happened fairly recently.
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Y'all > Folks
Whenever I hear "folks" now, the first thing that pops into my head is some slimy out-of-touch politician/celebrity, trying to bamboozle your average citizen
 
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Saw a ton of cope that 'nobody watches debates' and this will blow over. Bitches, it's not 30 years ago when memes and easy access to this stuff makes it go on for a really long time.

Biden-Trump CNN Presidential Debate Watched by More Than 51 Million Viewers Across 17 Networks, According to Nielsen (UPDATED)​


UPDATE, 1:35 p.m. PT: Nielsen has released an update on Thursday’s Biden-Trump presidential debate, and the average audience has climbed to 51.3 million viewers, across 17 networks. Networks include CNN, which originated the debate, as well as ABC, CBS, FOX, NBC, Scripps News, Telemundo, Univision, BET, CNN en Español, HLN, Fox Business, Fox News Channel, MSNBC, Newsmax, NewsNation and PBS. Audience estimates include out-of-home viewing for all networks except Newsmax, NewsNation, PBS and Scripps News.
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I figured they were going to force Joe out when they let his kid get convicted. That's the leverage.
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Hunter is Joe's son, but tellingly, he is not Jill's son, and we know at least Hunter despises her from his own words, and I've a notion that the feeling is mutual. Using Hunter as leverage only works if Joe still had enough marbles left to realize what's going on and the implications thereof, and from yesterday's performance, it's pretty clear Biden would have trouble figuring out what day of the week it is without outside assistance, much less subtle political messaging from criminal trial outcomes. Jill is the éminence grise of the Biden administration, and until now I think even people within the beltway but not actually within the White House itself didn't fully realize how far gone Joe is and how much of the administration is her and a cabal of DIE incompetents.

In short, the Hunter gambit failed because Jill would be happy to let Hunter swing in the wind so long as she gets to keep holding the levers of power. It really narrows their options going forward to more radical ones.
 
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WhiskeyJack said:
While Trump is really just pandering to idiot Evangelicals that think the Jews are God's chosen people, and get hard whenever someone talks about giving Israel money. Even putting the Embassy in Jerusalem was more about taking away a perpetual "promise" from the establishment's reelection playbook, so they can't endlessly run on eventually doing it. Trump needs the Evangelical votes, and appearing to pander on Israel also gets some of the neocon pressure off his back.
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This is something I have spoken about, especially with the more /pol/ niggers, but a lot of people don't get.

Trump's idea of how to support Israel is to make America strong so no one fucks with their allies like Israel. Moving the embassy as a symbolic gesture, having Jared work on the Abraham Accords and telling Iran to fuck right off.

Biden's idea of supporting Israel is infinite money to them and infinite support for forever wars on the Mossad say so.

It's why Israel didn't vibe much with Trump despite their friendly appearances. Trump actually bought the "greatest ally" meme and ran with it on it with the idea that Israel is a ally. Tel Aviv didn't like that because they don't wanna play second fiddle and pay the AIPAC billions to put them in charge and having Trump treat them not as his boss but as his equal was infuriating and humiliating as they couldn't find a good way to tard wrangle him into being a shabbos goy.
 
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