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US US Politics General - Discussion of President Biden and other politicians
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I'm wondering.
We saw a debate between Biden and Trump going horribly, and assumed that the Biden administration did the same and would pull all the cheating stops out to make Biden look good on tv. They failed miserably and seem to be caught off guard.
We expect Biden to lose horribly in the election, and assume that the Biden administration also sees that and will successfully pull all the tricks in the book (including some scribbled in the margins) to fix the election. Now I'm wondering if that may actually be beyond them. Considering the consequences the safer bet may be to continue to worry, but it likely won't be necessary as they underestimate what is needed to fix the election.
We saw a debate between Biden and Trump going horribly, and assumed that the Biden administration did the same and would pull all the cheating stops out to make Biden look good on tv. They failed miserably and seem to be caught off guard.
We expect Biden to lose horribly in the election, and assume that the Biden administration also sees that and will successfully pull all the tricks in the book (including some scribbled in the margins) to fix the election. Now I'm wondering if that may actually be beyond them. Considering the consequences the safer bet may be to continue to worry, but it likely won't be necessary as they underestimate what is needed to fix the election.
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Are you sure they'll even rig it for Biden again when the DNC is in this much of a panic to get rid of him right now? Just throwing that hypothetical out there.
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Don't underestimate the power of cope. They're in the shock phase of grief, they'll soon move to denial and anger. Political losses are very similar to a lot of pundits and extremists as someone dying for them, they go through all the same stuff.
I expect in a week or 2, IF Biden doesn't do a lot we'll hear more of the denial phase.
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The better question is, even if the order comes from up top, will they be able to get the little food soldiers who actually do the dirty work to mobilize?
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There's a few that are confirmed, namely the joint CIA and British intelligence operation to hire Iranian agents to bomb religious leaders in Iran in 1953 to foment the coup, blaming the attacks on communists, and ultimately getting their puppet government in place until the revolution. That's been confirmed by the NYTs in 2000, after getting a 1954 government document detailing the classified operation.
The NSA has admitted, as far as they admit anything anyway, that they knowingly lied about the Gulf of Tonkin incident to give LBJ justification for starting the Vietnam War. That was confirmed fairly recently.
Iran-Contra probably counts, the Italian attacks in the 50's by NATO are probably true, there's a few others that are largely confirmed, though not directly by government sources since nobody wants to admit this stuff of course. Most stuff will never be confirmed or even leaked to the public, because it stops being effective if everyone realizes it's a common tactic to manipulate public opinion.
Look up Operation Northwoods and Operation Mongoose sometime, that's probably the origin of the Tonkin incident. And might be why JFK was killed.
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Could you imagine how interested SF would be in hearing about a foreign government killing a congressmans wife? A dozen hardened killers would be flying to Israel before he hung up the phone.
Too bad they're too pussy to ever call for help.
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Alright, keep in mind this is wild ass speculation only loosely bound in anything I really know. This would be so unprecedented I would need a team of experts across multiple disciplines to actually come up with this in any sort of detail.
For all four it would be a disaster optically. I mean a true blue, once in a century, absolute disaster. The sheer legal hurdles of it would be immense, the need to get every single state to agree to the swap even contravening their own laws. It almost certainly would mean that every major battleground state has a real chance of not having Biden on the ballot or -worse-, having him on it and those votes being non-tallied. That one is worse because where as not having him on the ballot makes a write-in theoretically possible, having him on it removes that as any sort of probability. People will absolutely fill in the bubble with his name regardless.
Now, where the individual people separate is in the talking points. For all four excitement would be... non-existent though. For Newsom it would be a desperate attempt to downplay his hated stance in Cali but trying to present him as the most Presidential of the lot. he is also the worst candidate of all three (yes, worse than Clinton) because the man is a Charisma vacuum. Not as bad as Kamala, she is an outright black hole, but the man has -no- charisma. It would be like Pence running and would more or less default to running against Biden's record.
Clinton, Michelle, and Whitmer all would share some variant of "Its Her Turn", and that order is also their likelihood to have any traction. Mind, for all of these, that is basically none regardless. Clinton is reviled even by and maybe especially by the left. She is viewed, somehow even more than Trump is, as a sore loser. Ironically despite being so low on the list she also is the most likely to be chosen -if- they decide this route. But that would be as a sacrificial hag and if they do this route they are absolutely folding their chips for 2024. I would expect them to even give up on trying for Fraud if they pick Clinton. She is just there to lose and is arrogant enough to not realize that. Expect a complete copy of her 2016 run.
Michelle is second highest for one reason. She fucking hates white people and has no ability to hide it. Any talking points about her would play up her role with Obama, actually try to claim she is Obama's Third Term, a deep memory holing of that about Biden, and a whole lot of insinuation she is her husband's puppet. It would be... the most crass of theater, deeply alienating to moderates, still somehow less terrible than Biden.
Whitmer would be their serious attempt. She absolutely would be an attempt to nudge over the line with Fraud. They would play up the 'planned' kidnapping, memoryhole the living fuck out of the entrapment by the FBI for it, and try to present her as a "Made hard choices" candidate. With her there would be as much an attempt as possible to decouple her from anything Biden. Expect 'leaks' of her badmouthing Biden postdated to before he got in office.
Why the fuck are you asking me!? I fully expected Chevron to stand and the J6ers to be told to fuck off. I have no more clue than you do!
They absolutely do exist but this election is really fun. Its less "undecided on the candidates" and more "undecided on whether to vote at all, and whether Biden's brain is mush". And the best part is that while Trump's team seems to have realized this and is aiming for that -hard-, the Biden team appears to have been -completely unaware-. Also the Onion is useful now, its basically the DNC platform unburdened by the need to pretend to be civil or dignified.
That was kinda my take too. Trump is absolutely Pro-Israel... but in a way that Israel seems to unfathomably hate. Though I also get the feeling that their support of Biden has become a monkeys paw and they realize it. It wouldn't be the first time that the Jewish people backed the wrong horse only to wail and gnash their teeth as they bare the brunt of the consequences of their own actions. Though they also have a tendency to then back the right horse as hard as possible... for about a generation before they back an -even worse horse-.
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They have painted themselves in a corner. They lied about Bidens health and mental acuity and are now paying the price. Good, fuck them. Their own ideology precludes them from going with half of the options available to them:
The End of the Biden Era - The Atlantic | Archive
The Great Democratic Conundrum - The Atlantic | Archive
In theory they could convince Kamala to step aside for the good of the party but she has nothing to loose by staying put. Make no mistake, there's a good chance as any of a power vacuum coming, camps are forming, greed and ambition will turn these people against each other. Aides will be fighting for a chance to pick the winning horse. It couldn't happen to a better administration.
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There are so many goons who are ‘due’ to be president in the DNC that by the time Gavin is given the green light to run he will be as old and as senile as Biden. The party needs to split, and a brokered convention is the best chance I’ve seen for that to happen in my lifetime.
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Great wrap up as I expected.
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This is fucking mind-blowingly ominous as shit
Please archive I gotta go to bed.
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That beginning was really fucking funny.
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What is this strange "riot" thing of which you speak? All I see is a smoky but peaceful protest where wonderful POCs are being oppressed by the cops we for some reason haven't defunded yet.
Let them in! They need to establish the Palestinian Autonomous Zone!
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The leftist narrative seems to be that Trump only told lies in the debate but they themselves dont seem to know what these lies are.
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He's swishy a bit, but he hits hard on the democrat left. I only watch him when this kind of leftist disaster happens, it's fun.
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