"Mad at the Internet" - a/k/a My Psychotherapy Sessions

[Fortyone]

Josh, .50 BMG for home defense is a meme. Get a 1.2m long pinch bar and try doing drills with it. M82 is almost three times heavier lol.
If you want a shotty, buy Benelli M2 (or M4 for LARP purposes). It's probably the best semi-auto shotgun in the world. Very reliable, easy to maintain, doesn't have cycling issues with weird powder loads (unlike many gas-operated shotguns). Slap an extended mag on her and you're set.

The benelli with bird shot would be insane. Imagine getting blasted over and over with it semi-auto, even if you have body armor it would hit the unprotected bits.

I'm not really experienced with them so much (and idk about the import legality) but a saiga shotgun might be a good alternative to a benelli and has an option for magazines.

I'd disagree. If you use an energy calculator and compare common bullet weights, Hornady 62gr black tip 5.56 vs Hornady 123gr black tip 7.62x39, the 7.62x39 has 15% more energy. I'd say that's enough to make a difference. There are many more examples of guys talking about having to put 5 or more rounds of 5.56 into people when they know if they had something with more ass behind it they would've killed them in 1 or 2 shots.

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I've heard Vietnam vets say 7.62x39 was preferable to 5.56x45 when fighting people behind foliage, the faster much smaller 5.56 has a tendency to be thrown off target when going through bushes and branches. Some Americans preferred captured AK platforms in the jungles because of what I just mentioned and the lack of reliability/bad weathering on early m16s

 

[TETRABAX]

I'd disagree. If you use an energy calculator and compare common bullet weights, Hornady 62gr black tip 5.56 vs Hornady 123gr black tip 7.62x39, the 7.62x39 has 15% more energy. I'd say that's enough to make a difference. There are many more examples of guys talking about having to put 5 or more rounds of 5.56 into people when they know if they had something with more ass behind it they would've killed them in 1 or 2 shots.

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Energy of the bullet doesn't really matter. What matters is the damage it does. Too much energy and you just get a through and through and you won't be able to actually fragment and dump the shrapnel into the target. I'd much rather be shot point blank from a rifle than from a distance when it starts to tumble

 

[KateHikes14]

CoD and it's consequences have been a disaster for the male race holy shit, one of the most common round in firearm fatalities is a .22lr.

 

[Blackstar]

If anyone has the " the car is on fire and there's no driver at the wheel" Biden clip from the intro of June 28th's MATI I would really appreciate it thank you!

Summation of the debate and what November holds for us.
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Welcome home, Null.

 

[Fortyone]

CoD and it's consequences have been a disaster for the male race holy shit, one of the most common round in firearm fatalities is a .22lr.

That's becuase niggers can buy a 10/22 with a 30 round mag for very little and saw it down, the 10/22 and other .22 lr rifles are very common in general (and therefore common in stolen guns) and the ammo is extremely cheap. Also areas that restrict firearms usually don't restrict .22s because of their perceived low power.

The .22 lr can take down a moose if you shoot it in the head just right, but people are talking about how the .22 lr's large bodied brother (.223/5.56mm) can't defeat body armor.

 

[tulskij_tochnyj]

I'm not really experienced with them so much (and idk about the import legality) but a saiga shotgun might be a good alternative to a benelli and has an option for magazines.

Well, Saiga is full of surprises (as many all Russian guns for civilian market that are not demilitarized AKs). If you're lucky, it'll work just fine. If you're unlucky, you better be good with the dremel and files.
The art of buying a good Saiga is something that many Russian IPSC shotgun shooters had to learn, sometimes the hard way. Some people unironically went to Izhevsk plant with calipers, boroscopes n shiet to hand-pick their Saiga.
The hidden gem of Russian semi-auto shotguns is Vepr-12 (VPO-205). It's made from an RPK, is less finicky, and can take more abuse than Saiga, but it's heavier. I think the part of the plant in Vyatskie Polyany that made them is now defunct.

 

[NoWayBro]

I'd disagree. If you use an energy calculator and compare common bullet weights, Hornady 62gr black tip 5.56 vs Hornady 123gr black tip 7.62x39, the 7.62x39 has 15% more energy. I'd say that's enough to make a difference. There are many more examples of guys talking about having to put 5 or more rounds of 5.56 into people when they know if they had something with more ass behind it they would've killed them in 1 or 2 shots.

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To add onto this because I was confused at first before looking into it, 7.62 rounds are normally higher grain than 5.56, leading to higher velocity on average. Just so no one thinks you're taking a shit-tier 5.56 round and comparing it to a premium 7.62.

 

[Schmeated Ted]

https://x.com/Klaus_Arminius/status/1807202565890687242

A suggestion for the tranny segment, this is this man’s best day of his life, so gender euphoric. Right up until one of them realizes he’s a man.

 

[AnOminous]

fuck you Jersh, I thought Bing was b-b-b-based
you lie

Only 32? Pathetic. And here I was told this site alone kills 6 gorillion troons every day.

 

[ThatsMyDog]

I don't know, I think Josh should go full Eastern Block for his "home defense" load out.


He'd look so much more badass with an SVD.

 

[Null]

i consider local ammo production and availability important.

 

[TETRABAX]

I don't know, I think Josh should go full Eastern Block for his "home defense" load out.


He'd look so much more badass with an SVD.

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Fuck I want one so bad. They are so difficult to get in the States though

 

[Drinky Crow]

That's becuase niggers can buy a 10/22 with a 30 round mag for very little and saw it down, the 10/22 and other .22 lr rifles are very common in general (and therefore common in stolen guns) and the ammo is extremely cheap. Also areas that restrict firearms usually don't restrict .22s because of their perceived low power.

The .22 lr can take down a moose if you shoot it in the head just right, but people are talking about how the .22 lr's large bodied brother (.223/5.56mm) can't defeat body armor.

Because most of them can't even fathom that a bullet that's not backed by mega kill velocity will still bounce around and fragment in your squishy bits. Getting reddusted is far more merciful.

 

[National Defense Advocate]

Honestly just get an M4 clone.
"Muh body armor" getting hit in the plate still knocks people out of action.
5.56 has very little recoil so you can just hose down your target, especially in close quarters, hitting arms, legs, important arteries, the neck, ect.

Plates can only stop a few rounds, it's not a juggernaut suit or anything.

No sir, what Josh really needs are some Dragons Breath shells, for the really fat troons.

 

[Fortyone]

I don't know, I think Josh should go full Eastern Block for his "home defense" load out.


He'd look so much more badass with an SVD.

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7.62x54r is a good round for dealing with body armor, would recommend. Also used in other cool Soviet guns like the Mosin nagant and the svt-40, and you can buy surplus ammo by the 1000s in bulk.

i consider local ammo production and availability important.

Look into getting an ammo reloading bench if you plan on shooting alot. You can make custom loads with the power and bullet type you want. Also useful if you shoot rare/expensive ammo like the arisaka (uses same diameter bullet as .303 so it's much cheaper to reload than buy). If you save your brass (spent cartridges) you can refill them, use hollow points (or other bullets with desired weight/characteristics).

You could even go mad chemist mode and make black powder out of sulfur, piss (saltpeter), and charcoal then melt random lead scrap into bullets if you want true sustainability. (Can't be fired from modern smokeless powder firearms, need black powder firearm)

As far as availability any NATO or warsaw pact round (7.62x54, 7.62x39, .308, 5.56×45, etc.) is available is huge bulk packs, but this surplus usually uses corrosive ammo and will rot your gun out if it isn't properly cleaned.

 

[TETRABAX]

7.62x54r is a good round for dealing with body armor, would recommend. Also used in other cool Soviet guns like the Mosin nagant and the svt-40, and you can buy surplus ammo by the 1000s in bulk.



Look into getting an ammo reloading bench if you plan on shooting alot. You can make custom loads with the power and bullet type you want. Also useful if you shoot rare/expensive ammo like the arisaka (uses same diameter bullet as .303 so it's much cheaper to reload than buy). If you save your brass (spent cartridges) you can refill them, use hollow points (or other bullets with desired weight/characteristics).

You could even go mad chemist mode and make black powder out of sulfur, piss (saltpeter), and charcoal then melt random lead scrap into bullets if you want true sustainability.

Black powder != Smokeless powder. Do not load up black powder in a rifle not built for it. Black powder will burn much quicker and create a much higher pressure spike than smokeless. If the chamber isn't rated for that then you just set off a pipe bomb in front of your face

 

[Pustus]

i consider local ammo production and availability important.

I am not super knowledgable about guns but from what my friends have told me 9mm, 5.56/.223, .45, and .22lr are only ammunition that is going to be commonly produced in the US. There are manufacturers for other rounds like 7.62 but from what I have heard they are few and far between along with being sold out most of the time. (This doesn't include shotgun shells.)

 

[ThatsMyDog]

Fuck I want one so bad. They are so difficult to get in the States though

I think you need 3 grand too, IF you find one...

 

[Fortyone]

Black powder != Smokeless powder. Do not load up black powder in a rifle not built for it. Black powder will burn much quicker and create a much higher pressure spike than smokeless. If the chamber isn't rated for that then you just set off a pipe bomb in front of your face

I wasn't suggesting that for the other rounds, should have clarified it can only be used in black powder rifles or revolvers, Like a trap door Springfield or something.

Clarified this in my original post.

 

[HatredOfScissors]

Since Josh played it on MATI I just want everyone to know I have a physical version of Godsneed you black emperor and it comes with a bunch of Francis e Dec-esque stuff and a penny flattened on train tracks


I still that that lift your skinny fists album