US US Politics General - Discussion of President Biden and other politicians

 

[Useful_Mistake]

https://www.supremecourt.gov/opinions/23pdf/23-939_e2pg.pdf

"Under our constitutional structure of separated powers, the nature of Presidential power entitles a former President to absolute immunity from criminal prosecution for actions within his conclusive and preclusive constitutional authority. And he is entitled to at least presumptive immunity from prosecution for all his official acts. There is no immunity for unofficial acts"

TRUMP WON

 

[Back me up!]

I know I'm late to the party, but Trump went on that weird "I made the water come back" ramble, and every leftwing site was acting like it was complete insanity. But I understood the entire thing instantly. Even the rambling seems pretty intentional with Trump, as he was making more of an "emotional connection" rather than a deliberate statement.

In recent years, shower heads have been coming with flow limiters to save water, which leads to a shittier showering experience. They literally put a piece inside your shower head to make it worse. I've personally installed shower heads and had to pull out the piece stopping the water, and it came with a sheet of paper going "Uwu we are required to sell your shower head with a piece inside that makes it worse due to laws in some areas."

If you're an "I just wanna grill" type of person, "leftists will mandate that your shower has no water pressure" is a motivating example of how leftwing policy will actually impact you. Trump was going "I'm the guy who is going to make you have good water pressure, while those leftists installed all these restrictions that make your life worse." Going on a long ramble and summoning up images of not enough water pressure, and telling stories about how he directly increased the amount of water to dishwashers somehow, is more effective than just going "I support good water pressure."

Is it the most honorable form of speech, to make vague emotional connections rather than logical points? I dunno, but it's pretty effective. People have always done that. I often see the leftwing media put up clips of Trump to laugh at how stupid his words were. And I go "yeah I dunno, it might not have been a formal press statement but it probably resonated more with the average, 7th-grade-reading-level American than Joe Biden does."

This is has been Trumps patterns since like 2015 cause he is talking to a different group then libtards. A big one that leftest made fun of for a lonnnnnnnngggggggggggggg times was the line "I love the uneducated, their the smartest people I know". People who hate Trump just see the (made up) contradiction. But if you actually looked at the rally he was at he was talking to a large group of people that never went to college and did trades for most of their life, the "uneducated". You can see how much that offended the managerial and cert class in the US.

 

[Fishmalk Observer]

https://www.supremecourt.gov/opinions/23pdf/23-939_e2pg.pdf

"Under our constitutional structure of separated powers, the nature of Presidential power entitles a former President to absolute immunity from criminal prosecution for actions within his conclusive and preclusive constitutional authority. And he is entitled to at least presumptive immunity from prosecution for all his official acts. There is no immunity for unofficial acts"

TRUMP WON

It's fuckung joever. Their last recourse was to jail him and hope that the right would be too polite to rise up to the blatant injustice

 

[Frank_Jaeger]

https://www.supremecourt.gov/opinions/23pdf/23-939_e2pg.pdf

"Under our constitutional structure of separated powers, the nature of Presidential power entitles a former President to absolute immunity from criminal prosecution for actions within his conclusive and preclusive constitutional authority. And he is entitled to at least presumptive immunity from prosecution for all his official acts. There is no immunity for unofficial acts"

TRUMP WON

Which cases does this apply to specifically? How much will the "this does not cover unofficial acts" part screw him over?

 

[namelesstacotruck]

It's fuckung joever. Their last recourse was to jail him and hope that the right would be too polite to rise up to the blatant injustice

Merchan can still jail him.

But after the debate and this ruling that would be a "Merchan is a true believer" moment, not "doing this for personal and family gain" moment. Judges typically land in the self gain pile. Also this ruling shows that is elevated the Supremes probably would order release pending appeal.

 

[Terrifik]

late but teflon don

In a 6-3 decision, the Supreme Court has ruled that a president is immune from criminal prosecution for official acts.

 

[Useful_Mistake]

Which cases does this apply to specifically?

The case where they tried to arrest him for having bad opinions about Election fraud.

How much will the "this does not cover unofficial acts" part screw him over?

He did concede some parts he shouldn't have (in oral) as unofficial, but I think the main charges were official acts, so he should be fine.

 

[LikeAStone 2.0]

LET THE SEETHE AND SNEED BEGIN

 

[draggs]

The case where they tried to arrest him for having bad opinions about Election fraud.
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He did concede some parts he shouldn't have (in oral) as unofficial, but I think the main charges were official acts, so he should be fine.

The case will now proceed to motions filed by both parties before Judge Cuntkan alleging various acts in the indictment were official or unofficial, Judge Cuntkan will rule, whoever loses will appeal... the case is dead until next year. If (when) Trump wins the election, it'll be ded ded

This also torpedoes the documents case. I am overdosing on winning someone hit me with some Losscan nasal spray

 

[The Nothingness]

It's fuckung joever. Their last recourse was to jail him and hope that the right would be too polite to rise up to the blatant injustice

Merchan can still jail him.

But after the debate and this ruling that would be a "Merchan is a true believer" moment, not "doing this for personal and family gain" moment. Judges typically land in the self gain pile. Also this ruling shows that is elevated the Supremes probably would order release pending appeal.

All eyes will now be on July 11th.

 

[Hooked on phobics]

It's fuckung joever. Their last recourse was to jail him and hope that the right would be too polite to rise up to the blatant injustice

I think them relying on that also COMPLETELY forgot that most people assume politicians are corrupt fuckwads, so if a politician is arrested, and its NOT for something super clear cut, like fucking a preteen, or outright murder, a lot of people knee jerk to "politician arrested? MUST of not been playing ball, and was thrown under the bus".

Which brands extremely well with trumps old "drain the swamp" stuff. Almost like a confirmation that YES, the deep state DOES hate him.

I guess theres also cases where theres such outrage where arrest is unavoidable, or a politician is made a fallguy for others, but trumps situation really came off like dumb shit which would otherwise be ignored by anyone UNLESS he pissed off someone in power.

I guess its kinda akin to getting a jaywalking charge in the suburbs, its TECHNICALLY illegal, but its done so often, if you get a ticket, it raises eyebrows.

 

[Terrifik]

It's a tie bro

https://x.com/RightGlockMom/status/1807786218970628381

 

[Dr. Henry Armitage]

https://www.supremecourt.gov/opinions/23pdf/23-939_e2pg.pdf

"Under our constitutional structure of separated powers, the nature of Presidential power entitles a former President to absolute immunity from criminal prosecution for actions within his conclusive and preclusive constitutional authority. And he is entitled to at least presumptive immunity from prosecution for all his official acts. There is no immunity for unofficial acts"

TRUMP WON

The glow niggers are gonna pull a Kennedy and assassinate him aren't they?

 

[Pennypacker]

I think it certainly helps Trump but it is not the complete win as being described by the right.

 

[JackoVerde]

trump partially won his supreme court case, now itll be kicked down to the lower courts to decide what an official and unofficial act is.
thats what law and politics are built on
pedantry and pointless minutea
the question is, this might demand a whole new trial which would take a decent amount of time and can be delayed over and over.
delayed til the election is over isn't unreasonable.
edit: redditors on suicide watch.

 

[Rudolf's Friend]

The glow niggers are gonna pull a Kennedy and assassinate him aren't they?

And make him a martyr? That would be the worst thing for them to do.

 

[Dr. Henry Armitage]

And make him a martyr? That would be the worst thing for them to do.

So they're definitely gonna do it?

 

[Rome's rightful successor]

 

[mandatorylurk]

The big win is SCOTUS says these things can be appealed before a trial, they can't do what they did in NYC and run it through to be reversed later, so Trump can basically appeal everything Chutkan throws at him and run out the clock if the psycho bitch just says X, Y & Z are ok.

1,000 hours in photoshop

 

[CaddestSlown]

And make him a martyr? That would be the worst thing for them to do.

It would also be so extremely obvious as to who did it. I don't know the ramifications of THAT, but I can say for a fact it would just be too clear as to who killed him and why. I think it would be very chaotic though, at the very least.