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The thing that surprises me is people think Obama was corrupted by DC or the DNC when he’s been a Chicago politician and “organizer” mentored by Bill Ayers for most of his political life. You can’t create an honest man in that environment.

He’s been scum since his mother whored herself out to communist university students.
 
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chiobu said:
Holy shit :story:

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Dr J said:
In addition to >walls of text, most of these 'lies' are either:
A) Opinions ('Nobody respects the United States any more' is an opinion, albeit a correct one)
B) Hyperbole. Bragging on himself (We had the greatest economy ever, etc)
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Glowing In The Streets said:
C) its true but we dont want people to know it
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Jaimas said:
I don't know what the fuck is going on in the DNC right now, but the fissures are blossoming into full-blown breaches now.

Obama is demanding an open convention despite Biden being their nominee.

Party financiers are basically threatening to take their ball and go home if Biden doesn't bow out. The MSM is in open revolt.

Several of my old friends who are still involved involved in the Dem ground game have reported that shit is in complete disarray; morale has utterly cratered, half of their volunteers aren't even showing up, They are now viewing the prospect of the Donald's return as a dreadful inevitability.

Things are pushing hard in a beneficial direction. The party leadership is divided between a desperate holding action, cutting and running, or trying a last-minute hail-mary candidate swap which would absolutely fuck them, and the downticket Dems are panicking in turn.

We can't afford to get complacent. Laugh at their self-destruction, but be ready to hit the ground running. They're going to pull out all the stops, no matter how fucked they seem to be.
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Late to respond but isn't this just full throttle "saying it without saying it" that Obama really is just shadow presidenting extra terms?
 
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Actually, that he fixed covid is largely true (by that point there were various therapeutics, we were starting to develop herd immunity and the virus was considerably less lethal than it was in the beginning) and that he didn't have sex with Stormy Daniels is at least potentially true (Daniels has said twice, including once in writing, that there was no affair)
 
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Dr J said:
Actually, that he fixed covid is largely true (by that point there were various therapeutics, we were starting to develop herd immunity and the virus was considerably less lethal than it was in the beginning) and that he didn't have sex with Stormy Daniels is at least potentially true (Daniels has said twice, including once in writing, that there was no affair)
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Also the tariff statements are not necessarily lies.
 
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chiobu said:
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when everyone was whining about all the lies trump supposedly told and how it was so awful he wasnt "fact checked" in real time I thought that it was idiotic to compare 'lies' like 'i was the best president ever' to the shit biden said like 'no soldier died under my presidency'
but I assumed there must have been something I missed that trump said that they were carrying on about
this entire list here is just trump exaggerating how good he was. Also they assert that its a 'lie' to say you believe tariffs would be good for the economy in there a few times.
Its so low effort, they arent even trying to convince anyone. Is this because they have a bunch of college girls running his social media?
why is it all so low quality?
Im sure there has to be something that trump genuinely says that is either untrue or unpopular, but they never even seem to ever try to identify those things, just hyperbolic shit about him stealing 'a womans right to choose' and shit like that
why are they so fucking bad at politics?
 
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Barry McKockner said:
Not necessarily. They may be pushing so that the RNC has it's caucus, and after trump is certified as the candidate, THEN drop the hammer. If Alvin Bragg is all for something, bet your ass he thinks it's because it will hurt Trump politically, not because he's "seeking justice". None of these are official acts, and I don't even think they can be construed as such.
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Normally this is how it is but in every situation there's also a line where things have gone to shit and you have to abandon ship and save your own ass. I definitely think this case has passed this line and Bragg is now in CYA mode so anything he does from here on in is going to be to extract himself from this situation without bringing too much attention to everything and especially himself.

Remember, last thing he wants is for them to pull a Fani Willis on him and start examining EVERYTHING he's been involved in. He's corrupt as long as he can't be held accountable. And these people don't bother to bury the bodies because they think they'll never be accountable.

So now that things have been an unmitigated disaster for the left over the past week or so, he's realizing he can't keep pushing because it's all about to fall apart and this moron has left bodies everywhere.
 
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Dr J said:
that he didn't have sex with Stormy Daniels is at least potentially true (Daniels has said twice, including once in writing, that there was no affair)
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I always assumed they did have an affair, but honestly, Daniels' testimony convinced me he never had sex with her, and it's all just been a scheme to blackmail him for cash to avoid negative press.

He's such a germaphobe he literally eats pizza with a fork, yet agreed to not wear a condom? With a pornstar? That doesn't make any fucking sense. And he didn't question her on this, just accepted her supposed allergy to latex? That doesn't even sound like him.

Then she says while in bed he offered to put her on the Apprentice and she said "I don't think you have the power to do that." No way in hell that conversation ever happened, it sounds more like she was screwing some low-level staffer. Besides Trump being the main producer, they filmed the show at Trump Tower, and it entirely revolved around his business properties. Obviously he controlled whoever got on the show.
 
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Dr J said:
Or because he doesn't want to risk the blowback A) getting the entire case tossed out and him losing his fucking job and B) potentially getting him disbarred (which means no private practice ambulance chasing for him to grift off)
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AnitaSarsleezian said:
Normally this is how it is but in every situation there's also a line where things have gone to shit and you have to abandon ship and save your own ass. I definitely think this case has passed this line and Bragg is now in CYA mode so anything he does from here on in is going to be to extract himself from this situation without bringing too much attention to everything and especially himself.

Remember, last thing he wants is for them to pull a Fani Willis on him and start examining EVERYTHING he's been involved in. He's corrupt as long as he can't be held accountable. And these people don't bother to bury the bodies because they think they'll never be accountable.

So now that things have been an unmitigated disaster for the left over the past week or so, he's realizing he can't keep pushing because it's all about to fall apart and this moron has left bodies everywhere.
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I'm going to disagree with you guys for ONE REASON ONLY: We're talking about Manhattan in NY. The state is pozzed enough as it is, and that district is even more pozzed. Neither Merchan nor Bragg will face anything close to a consequence, unless they fail to harm Trump politically. Bragg himself is only in that position for ONE reason, and that's to hurt Trump's re-election campaign. Fanny is only facing a modicum of accountability because it's a red state with a red government. If it were a blue one, she would be trying the cases as we speak.
 
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General Emílio Médici said:
It's a massive house of cards coming down. So many alliances of convenience, backroom deals, compromises and temporary fixes all collapsing into the weight of their own issues all at once.

Reminder: the DNC convention this year is in Chiraq again just like in 1968. Shit is gonna be kino.
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Getting massive Kantai Kessen vibes now.
 
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I just saw this and my jaw hit the floor, I have a hard time believing the majority of those undecideds break Biden after that debate. This would also be an absolute disaster for down ballot races, especially in places like Colorado , New Mexico, Virginia, and of course the swing states.
 
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