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I always assumed they did have an affair, but honestly, Daniels' testimony convinced me he never had sex with her, and it's all just been a scheme to blackmail him for cash to avoid negative press.

He's such a germaphobe he literally eats pizza with a fork, yet agreed to not wear a condom? With a pornstar? That doesn't make any fucking sense. And he didn't question her on this, just accepted her supposed allergy to latex? That doesn't even sound like him.

Then she says while in bed he offered to put her on the Apprentice and she said "I don't think you have the power to do that." No way in hell that conversation ever happened, it sounds more like she was screwing some low-level staffer. Besides Trump being the main producer, they filmed the show at Trump Tower, and it entirely revolved around his business properties. Obviously he controlled whoever got on the show.
The way that Cohen ran the whole thing and used it to steal at least $60,000, I'd say that it was him who orchestrated it. Knowing that Trump has paid off accusers in the past and that he wouldn't want a scandal during the election, he could have picked her out of his jack off catalogue and approached her to set the scam up.
 
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Way I heard it, it was the guy's mother's house, not that that would stop the Taliban if they felt like they ought to act.
low level islams are psychos who want to die
high level islams are psychos who want to live large while their flunkies die

very important difference
 
This is the most massaged of massaged polling I have ever seen. Buttigieg with over 300? How?

I don't believe it either, but these are the inputs for internal party decisions.

It's not entirely outrageous though, they are making the reasonable assumption that any candidate with a D (or an R) after their name gets an automatic chunk of the vote. They're massaging their projections by name recognition and favorability numbers, which is a standard though crass way of thinking about public perception.

What they can't model as easily is the historical truth. Harris and Buttigieg were the highest polling Democratic candidates at the start of the 2020 primaries... until they started having campaign events and debates. As soon as people started seeing them, their numbers plummeted so badly that Harris dropped out before a single primary vote was cast, and Buttigieg only lasted a month into the voting.

Does that matter? If Biden gets removed, and people are forced to treat Harris or Buttigieg as a serious candidate, would they be able to hit those projected numbers, and sustain them over the campaign?

Well... what if the campaign didn't involve getting out to the people, or talking publicly, or staying popular for an entire year?

The election is in 4 months and 3 days. Early voting will have people locking in votes up to a month earlier. Those two candidates have federal positions, and can make endless excuses for staying in DC and "working for the people" instead of doing poll-dropping events. Biden wasn't going to do events anyway, and these candidates already have the name recognition those events are supposed to create.

I think the long-shot, emergency plan B contingency is to cite a sudden health issue, push out one of these unlikable idiots to give a speech and accept Biden's endorsement. Then hunker down for 3 months and have the ballot harvesters do their job. Keep a leash on the media, give them controlled access so they don't get antsy, instruct them not to whine about the lack of public interaction. Hope nobody notices that there is no real campaign or platform, and count on that automatic base showing up to vote against Trump.

It's not the ideal plan when you have an incumbent President. But in today's fake and gay version of democracy, it's plausible enough that the political operatives may be taking it seriously.
 
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What is he hoping to achieve here? To come off as folksy and humorous? Does he really think this makes him look better?

Also, when were these alleged back-to-back trips to Europe? Pretty sure he went to Camp David for a week, then straight to the debate, so was the jet lag still present after that long a time? Lmao he’s so full of shit.
 
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What is he hoping to achieve here? To come off as folksy and humorous? Does he really think this makes him look better?

Also, when were these alleged back-to-back trips to Europe? Pretty sure he went to Camp David for a week, then straight to the debate, so was the jet lag still present after that long a time? Lmao he’s so full of shit.
Maybe he's talking about the D-Day trip to France 4 weeks ago and then Italy a few days later? I thought it was a single trip but still it was a month ago.
 
What they can't model as easily is the historical truth. Harris and Buttigieg were the highest polling Democratic candidates at the start of the 2020 primaries... until they started having campaign events and debates. As soon as people started seeing them, their numbers plummeted so badly that Harris dropped out before a single primary vote was cast, and Buttigieg only lasted a month into the voting.
they wouldn't need to model it at all if they would just be honest with each other and themselves in private, they could easily have seen this coming a mile away. there's no way that internally, they didn't know at least a few months ago that biden was noggin-rotted. that o'keefe doc (i think? maybe one of his proteges) that had one of biden's staffers spilling that everyone knew he was a mushbrain was a while back, and you gotta imagine the people at the top next to biden knew he was a rotter a year ago, i mean for fuck sake the american public has known for almost his entire presidency.

they knew he was this bad, and they chose not to talk about it even among themselves. i don't know WHY, but it's clear after the post-debate cope session that they really did buy into their own hype somehow and now they are well and truly shitting themselves because of it. i revel in the fact that they suffer the failure they wrought.
 
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What is he hoping to achieve here? To come off as folksy and humorous? Does he really think this makes him look better?

Also, when were these alleged back-to-back trips to Europe? Pretty sure he went to Camp David for a week, then straight to the debate, so was the jet lag still present after that long a time? Lmao he’s so full of shit.
See, if he tells them about his dirty, crapped briefs they'll feel bad and stop making fun of him.
 
Buttfag is toxic as hell after East Palestine and other infrastructure issues.
Don't forget immediately taking off several months after being appointed for maternaty leave or some shit and not telling anyone until several disasters happened and he was nowhere to be found..
 

As president teeters, Jill Biden faces a critical juncture​


She’s served more than three years as first lady, but after President Biden’s stunningly shaky debate performance and subsequent calls for him to step down, Jill Biden — and her potential power — are suddenly being thrust into the spotlight like never before.

“It seems to be a make-or-break moment for the president, and I would say that Jill Biden will be there at every turn,” said Katherine Jellison, an expert on first ladies and professor of U.S. women’s and gender history at Ohio University.

Biden’s role in her husband’s campaign and decision-making process came into sharper focus last week, following what even allies described as his “disastrous” debate against former President Trump in Atlanta.

The showing at the CNN debate, which found 81-year-old Biden stumbling over some answers and staring blankly at times, ignited a firestorm of renewed questions about his age and fitness for office. Prominent figures on both sides of the aisle and multiple newspaper editorial boards called for Biden to drop out of the race rather than face Trump, his 78-year-old opponent.

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But Jill Biden, a Northern Virginia Community College professor who also sometimes doubles as her husband’s defender in chief, made her support clear at an event held two days after the debate debacle.

“Joe isn’t just the right person for the job. He’s the only person for the job,” she said at a New York campaign fundraiser.

She doubled down the next day in a phone interview with Vogue from Camp David, where the president’s family had reportedly gathered for a photo shoot and discussion.

“We will continue to fight,” Jill Biden said of the commander in chief’s political future in a cover story this week for the fashion magazine’s August issue.

President Biden, she said, “will not let those 90 minutes define the four years he’s been president” and “will always do what’s best for the country.”

GOP critics seized on the glossy spread — typically planned months in advance — which featured the first lady posing in a $5,000 Ralph Lauren Collection dress. The New York Post parodied the Vogue piece with its own cover that featured an unflattering photo of the president and the headline “Vague.”

Since the debate, a chorus of conservative voices have targeted Jill Biden, saying the burden lies with her for the president staying in the race.

“I no longer blame @POTUS Biden for not stepping aside. He no longer has the mental acuity to make important judgments about himself,” billionaire investor Bill Ackman wrote on X.

“It is becoming increasingly clear however that the fault lies with @FLOTUS Jill Biden,” Ackman said.

The first lady, he argued, “becomes irrelevant the moment her husband is no longer president,” accusing Jill Biden of prioritizing “what is best for herself over her husband’s health and the safety and security of the country at large.”

The Drudge Report splashed an all-caps headline across its front page in the aftermath of the debate declaring “Cruel Jill clings to power.”

But Michael LaRosa, her former press secretary, pushed back at the first lady’s critics: “It’s really unfair to put the burden on her. She’s his spouse. She’s not a politician.”

“It’s not up to her to save the Democratic Party,” said LaRosa, who is now with the lobbying firm Ballard Partners.

“If the party is nervous about their prospects, they need to talk to the president and his political advisors, but not his spouse,” LaRosa said.

Ohio University’s Jellison said most of the criticism against presidential spouses “is still based in a lot of sexist notions about women being ‘the power behind the throne.'”

“If political opponents don’t like a situation, they can portray a first lady as sort of a Lady Macbeth character,” the author said.

“On the other hand, if people like what a first lady is doing, they can always say, ‘Oh, look, she’s standing by her man — the dutiful spouse.’ So I think a lot of commentary regarding first ladies, pro and con, is based in a lot of old-fashioned thinking about the role of a female spouse,” Jellison said.

Elizabeth Alexander, the first lady’s communications director, told ITK that “there’s an inherent tension for all first ladies — one that might be familiar to many women in their lives — you are supportive, but can’t be so supportive that your motives are questioned.”

“Women constantly deal with the delicate balance of speaking up, but not too loudly; do your job well, but do it silently, otherwise you’re too ambitious or power-hungry. Society has put all first ladies, including Dr. Biden, in an impossible situation — with Twitter/X magnifying this on steroids in today’s world,” Alexander said.

Asked this week if the first lady is the only person who could convince President Biden to drop out, one Democratic lobbyist and donor told ITK, “It’s my view, yes. Maybe his sister [Valerie Biden].”

“I don’t think it gets beyond that,” added the source, who asked to remain anonymous. “Somebody in the next circle out. The inner circle is fully the family. The next circle out of Ron Klain, Steve Ricchetti, Bruce Reed, Mike Donilon, those people would be influential in organizing whatever the next step is.”

“The president has plenty of political and policy advisors — that’s never been her role,” Alexander, who also works as the deputy assistant to the president, said of Jill Biden.

At “her core,” Alexander said of the first lady, “she sees being first lady as an act of service. She wants to be the best first lady she can be, for the American people.”

Navigating the political world is hardly uncharted territory for Jill Biden, who tied the knot with her husband, then a Delaware senator, in 1977. Over the years, she’s crisscrossed the country as a surrogate for her other half, supporting his agenda, campaigns and career while continuing her work as an educator.

Jill Biden has noted she’s sometimes taken matters — and Sharpies — into her own hands when trying to get her message across to her husband.

In her 2019 memoir, “Where the Light Enters,” she recalled how a group of Democratic Party leaders arrived at her doorstep in 2003 to try to persuade her spouse to launch a White House bid.

“They sat themselves down in our living room and spoke to Joe for hours about how he was the only one who could take on President [George W.] Bush. Meanwhile, I was sitting at the pool in my swimsuit, fuming,” she wrote.

“We had already decided that we weren’t running, but people kept insisting on having these meetings with him. So, as party advisors gamed out their strategy for a theoretical run for president, my temper got the best of me,” Biden said.

“I decided I needed to contribute to this conversation. As I walked through the kitchen, a Sharpie caught my eye. I drew NO on my stomach in big letters, and marched through the room in my bikini. Needless to say, they got the message,” she wrote.

Going back to Dolley Madison in the 1810s, first ladies have traditionally played the role of close presidential adviser, Jellison said.

“What’s unique is to have a president this old, and his age being a major issue, and having the first lady advise a president perhaps beyond the political, but advise on health concerns and concerns about historical reputation,” she said.

Yet the position Jill Biden may find herself in isn’t unprecedented. Eleanor Roosevelt “had to have known how ill her husband [President Franklin D. Roosevelt] was, and still apparently advised him to go on for that fourth campaign,” according to Jellison.

When Woodrow Wilson was in his second term and suffered a “debilitating” stroke in 1919, Jellison said, wife Edith Wilson “worked to advise him to keep going in office, not to, for instance, resign and let the vice president take over.”

After more than four decades together, the Bidens operate as a unit in championing one another, say those who’ve worked closely with them.

“First and foremost, she’s his wife — of 47 years. She’s been with him through rebuilding a family, two aneurysms, three presidential campaigns, six Senate campaigns, the loss of their son, the heartbreak and grief of family addiction, the brutal 2019 campaign, and running against Donald Trump during COVID in 2020,” Alexander said. “To say they’ve been in foxholes together doesn’t even begin to explain their bond.”

“As much as any husband and wife team make decisions together that impact their lives, they absolutely do, but as she’s said more times than I can count — politics is his lane. She supports his career and he supports hers,” Alexander said.

“She’s supportive when he makes decisions or when they make decisions together that impact her and the family,” LaRosa said. “Once they make the decisions, they support each other through them.”

“They’re clearly deciding to continue [in the race], and she’s going to be a relentless supporter and backer of his,” LaRosa said.

When President Biden was weighing whether to run for reelection in February 2023, Jill Biden — who made history as the first president’s spouse to hold a full-time job outside the White House — described taking her cues from him and endorsing whichever path he took.

“It’s Joe’s decision,” she said in an interview with CNN. “And we support whatever he wants to do. If he’s in, we’re there. If he wants to do something else, we’re there too.”

That same month, President Biden was asked if he’d be seeking another term.

“Let me ask you the question everyone is asking: Are you running?” ABC News’s David Muir asked the president.

“Well apparently someone interviewed my wife today,” he replied.

“I gotta call her and find out,” he quipped.
 
I don't believe it either, but these are the inputs for internal party decisions.

It's not entirely outrageous though, they are making the reasonable assumption that any candidate with a D (or an R) after their name gets an automatic chunk of the vote. They're massaging their projections by name recognition and favorability numbers, which is a standard though crass way of thinking about public perception.

What they can't model as easily is the historical truth. Harris and Buttigieg were the highest polling Democratic candidates at the start of the 2020 primaries... until they started having campaign events and debates. As soon as people started seeing them, their numbers plummeted so badly that Harris dropped out before a single primary vote was cast, and Buttigieg only lasted a month into the voting.

Does that matter? If Biden gets removed, and people are forced to treat Harris or Buttigieg as a serious candidate, would they be able to hit those projected numbers, and sustain them over the campaign?
If they could pull that off legitimately I'd imagine they would've at least did the same with Biden, it's basically what his strategy in 2020 was.
 
I dont believe that poll, it seems like something that was intentionally "leaked" to convince people buttigeg and whitmer are viable, but they actually admit that they 'corrected for name recognition' whatever thats supposed to mean
in the cases of kamala and buttigeg, their numbers dropped significantly after they gained some name recognition, and I see no reason that it wouldnt be the same for whitmer


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