US US Politics General - Discussion of President Biden and other politicians

 

[HOMO FOR LIFE RETURNS]

it's time for a little payback after the last 4 years.

I felt that to my sad soulless decrypt bones

 

[VeteranOfTheRetardWars]

nobody hates illegal hispanics like legal hispanics

Wrong, legal Asians hate them much more.

 

[draggs]

Maybe, unless one wants to install an American Caesar, dissolving both the DNC and GOP would be for the best, and we can get four or six parties. New parties sounds like a good idea, anyway.

Holy fuck no

Look at all the gay bullshit Yerps have to go through because power in most of their countries is usually diffused through more than two parties, even if there's usually 2 big ones and 2-4 more smaller ones

 

[Suburban Bastard]

This is how I see it:

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Trump still wins because of everything flipped in the midwest and NE, but this creates such a glaring problem will illegals and voter fraud it will be a consistent 60/40 approval for all of Trump's actions. Trump has the mandate mandate fruit.

I'm sorry, but this is the first time I've seen someone make an EC prediction that has the democrats flipping Texas and still losing, that's just too funny for me lol.

 

[Betonhaus]

Robert Barnes can go fornicate with a cactus but... he is half-right.

If Biden is 25th'd, Kamala keeps the money because she is the same campaign. If she gets nominated but he is not 25th'd, she is splitting from his campaign and is no longer eligible to use his campaigns money. You have a theoretical gray area where Biden himself stands down and she comes up and its a peaceful transfer where it is much more legally grey leaning towards she keeps the money.

so 25th Biden (after resisting for three years) and make Harris the canidate, then make her VP someone likeable and 25th harris?

 

[Dr J]

If Biden is 25th'd, Kamala keeps the money because she is the same campaign. If she gets nominated but he is not 25th'd, she is splitting from his campaign and is no longer eligible to use his campaigns money. You have a theoretical gray area where Biden himself stands down and she comes up and its a peaceful transfer where it is much more legally grey leaning towards she keeps the money.

I think Barnes suggested 25'ing Biden would be impossible, if he really wants to cling on. You'd need a 2/3rds majority in House and Senate to boot him

 

[Sweeter and Savoury]

The DoJ has said that they will continue to pursue charges vs Trump even if he is elected President.

Washington Post: Justice Department to pursue Trump prosecutions past the election, even if he wins

The Ride Never Ends

 

[Mark Robinson BussyLiquor]

I think Barnes suggested 25'ing Biden would be impossible, if he really wants to cling on. You'd need a 2/3rds majority in House and Senate to boot him

You're correct about the 25th Amendment, but due to the political realities, there is literally no possibility that Biden would try to cling on if a majority of his own cabinet turns against him. Not even Jill would urge him to remain in the race at that point. As damaging as an early retirement might be, losing the election to Trump would likely result in him getting Clinton'cided.

 

[Wherethereisawhip]

Holy fuck no

Look at all the gay bullshit Yerps have to go through because power in most of their countries is usually diffused through more than two parties, even if there's usually 2 big ones and 2-4 more smaller ones

Yeah at least with just 2 parties you can attempt to primary out and mitigate those that want to keep the corrupt status quo. In these parliamentary forces the variety of parties makes it much easier for a back-channel of uniparty forces to exist since it's incredibly hard to be able to get one party over 50% due to the obvious reasons. It's basically ranked 'choice' but for parties.

 

[The Mass Shooter Ron Soye]

Man Behind Project 2025 Just Said the Quiet Part Out Loud (archive)

The president of the Heritage Foundation on Tuesday declared that a new revolution is already underway in the U.S., appearing to warn Liberals that violence could erupt if they tried to stop it.

Kevin Roberts, whose uber-conservative think tank is behind the highly controversial “Project 2025” blueprint for a second Donald Trump presidency, made the comment during an appearance on Real America’s Voice. “We are in the process of the second American Revolution, which will remain bloodless if the left allows it to be,” Roberts said.

I can do that by just ordering Caffeine-free Diet Mountain Dew from Walmart. Shit's literally $45 per 12 pack right now. I've got one pack on my fridge I'm seriously considering selling on Ebay to cover my summer Steam sale expenses.

Reordering junk on Walmart.com is no reliable indicator of inflation. I noticed years ago that they list certain items at nonsensically high prices, probably because they are on backorder. It's a dumb thing they do on their website. I believe Amazon has the same problem but it's more like the third-party sellers shitting up the platform.

• White voters: Trump 56-39%
• Black voters: Biden 79-14%
• Hispanic voters: Trump 47-46%

Trump's 2020 exit polls according to CNN:
White 58%
Black 12%
Latino 32%
Asian 34%
Other 41%

 

[Drag-on Knight 91873]

You're correct about the 25th Amendment, but due to the political realities, there is literally no possibility that Biden would try to cling on if a majority of his own cabinet turns against him. Not even Jill would urge him to remain in the race at that point. As damaging as an early retirement might be, losing the election to Trump would likely result in him getting Clinton'cided.

Given how everyone around him treats him, who would care if suicide was committed on him?

 

[Dr J]

The DoJ has said that they will continue to pursue charges vs Trump even if he is elected President.

Washington Post: Justice Department to pursue Trump prosecutions past the election, even if he wins

The Ride Never Ends

In reality, that's just posturing. If he wins in November, it's over for them. They're going to get sacked as soon as he takes office. No state prosecution can occur while he's in office, either

 

[Sweeter and Savoury]

In reality, that's just posturing. If he wins in November, it's over for them. They're going to get sacked as soon as he takes office. No state prosecution can occur while he's in office, either

I guess technically they will have until Jan 20 2025 when he is sworn in and able to officially exercise his powers.

My guess would be they will ram thru what ever charges they can after November. I mean if your going to get fired no matter what you might as well go out with a bang.

That way the glowy faggots can say "at least we tried, it's not our fault the system is too corrupt to allow us to put our political rivals in jail." Or whatever that would be in Proggie Speak.

 

[Absolutego]

Holy fuck no

Look at all the gay bullshit Yerps have to go through because power in most of their countries is usually diffused through more than two parties, even if there's usually 2 big ones and 2-4 more smaller ones

That could never work here for more than a few election cycles because the legislature isn't Parliamentary and consequently multiple squabbling minority parties don't realistically have a way to stick their thumbs on the scale via coalition governments.
It's one of the few spaces where our system being one of the first Democracies works to its benefit because it prevents a shouty ethnic/political minority group from demanding they disproportionately get their gibs if the biggest of the top 2 parties has to deal with them to actually keep the lights on.

 

[Dr J]

I guess technically they will have until Jan 20 2025 when he is sworn in and able to officially exercise his powers.

My guess would be they will ram thru what ever charges they can after November. I mean if your going to get fired no matter what you might as well go out with a bang.

That way the glowy faggots can say "at least we tried, it's not our fault the system is too corrupt to allow us to put our political rivals in jail." Or whatever that would be in Proggie Speak.

Realistically if they haven't tried him by now, they're not going to.

 

[World Famous Quasi Payer]

Chud as an insult never made sense. It's the most limpwristed thing possible. Hardly anyone knew the original, or what it referred to. (No offense to horror movie fans, of course).

And if you gotta explain an insult... well, it's hardly one, isn't it? Compare and contrast to niggers.

It makes sense when you are a leftist who would be disowned for using fag as an insult and probably murdered for using nigger.

Maybe, unless one wants to install an American Caesar, dissolving both the DNC and GOP would be for the best, and we can get four or six parties. New parties sounds like a good idea, anyway.

There is no need to burn the GOP down. All it needs is the last of the RINOs purged. The best outcome I see for an end to the two party split would be GOP without rinos, a center party (which the rinos can join), a liberal party, a black party. and a progressive party.

 

[Gehenna]

I think Barnes suggested 25'ing Biden would be impossible, if he really wants to cling on. You'd need a 2/3rds majority in House and Senate to boot him

I sadly agree with him again. It would likely be impossible. So the only way Harris keeps the money is to delve into legal grayscale and try to have Biden publicly pass the torch to her.

It makes sense when you are a leftist who would be disowned for using fag as an insult and probably murdered for using nigger.


There is no need to burn the GOP down. All it needs is the last of the RINOs purged. The best outcome I see for an end to the two party split would be GOP without rinos, a center party (which the rinos can join), a liberal party, a black party. and a progressive party.

Here's the thing about American politics. No dedicated third party will ever exist and gain traction. They will always be absorbed into the larger party. That is more or less by design. The U.S> system runs on a concept called "Big Tent Politics", the idea being you have two parties but within those parties is a broad spectrum of beliefs that all rally around specific core tenants of politics. A Rand Paul is very different to a Ted Cruz, for example. This actually works well... without a Uniparty.

The Uniparty in the end is the slow decay of the two party big tent politics. It was a slow melding of those parties into one that actively sought to purge or prevent any members within it that did not match their singular pillars. The RINOs were just the Republican 'wing' of the Uniparty. Purging them and the Democrats on the other side of it should eventually lead to the parties once again becoming Big Tents.

 

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I'll take your clocks if I'm late with this observation but  if the Dems have to ditch Joe from Scranton, plugging in Kamala will be a masterstroke (apart from being most obvious).

1) The obvious: By not doing so, you anger all the loyal wine aunts and sheboons and soybois you need.

2) The masterstroke: Since Kamala is unlikely to ever be elected to any office ever again, running her in a losing effort in 2024 wastes her as "the rightful heir" candidate in 2028, clearing the detritus from the path for Gavin Bateman, who absolutely won't want to wait until 2032 to lay claim to the throne to which he feels Hillary-levels of entitlement to.

Yup. Kamala is the obvious choice.

She's the ultimate useless idiot. Completely useless as a VP, unable to do even the most basic tasks including just standing there and not being annoying. Supposedly she hasn't been sober for the past 4 years.

The theory I always heard was that she is Clinton's understudy but whoops, Tulsi ended her career on the debate stage. The plan was supposedly that Biden would resign 2 years + 1 day, giving Kamala 2 years - 1 day + 2 terms, except she's even less likable than fucking HILLARY.

Everyone hates her, internal and external.

So Kamala will lose, but they'll lose in any scenario here.

Kamala losing gives the Democrats a false reality to sell -- "We didn't lose, the people didn't reject our holy scripture, it was that worthless cunt Kamala that cost us 2024!"

She'll lose her career over it, but again, even the Democrats hate her. They don't want her sitting around in 2028 expecting to be a candidate or going back to a state and wasting space someone else could be in, training to be a useful future candidate.

In addition, the DNC HAS to use her otherwise by law they're apparently FORCED to refund every penny of donations that people made to Biden/Harris 2024. And as others have mentioned, They already spent all that money.


Can you imagine if the DNC has to both pick someone to sacrifice their career over this AND give up hundreds of millions if not a billion+ of donations? It would bankrupt them AND they'd still lose.

At least shoving Kamala out on stage after Biden retires/dies localizes the damage to Kamala's career (she has none either way) and maybe some of the downballot.

 

[Gehenna]

The theory I always heard was that she is Clinton's understudy but whoops, Tulsi ended her career on the debate stage. The plan was supposedly that Biden would resign 2 years + 1 day, giving Kamala 2 years - 1 day + 2 terms, except she's even less likable than fucking HILLARY.

I have -never- bought this line. It doesn't begin to make sense as her absolute black hole of charisma was well known before they took her on. She was brought on not for her future prospects but as a means of stabilizing demographics that were getting uppity and needed a bone thrown to them. She is the epitome of "Diversity hire". Brought on to tick boxes and absolutely nothing more.

 

[draggs]

I think Barnes suggested 25'ing Biden would be impossible, if he really wants to cling on. You'd need a 2/3rds majority in House and Senate to boot him

it would

if the cabinet invokes the 25th

the president can accede or refuse

if the president refuses it goes to congress

now why would the house + senate GOP want to help the dims out of their predicament by getting rid of biden