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Pretty sure if Trump wins the DoJ is going to start looking a lot fucking different. Also pretty sure he could just pardon himself since they are federal crimes and the DoJ has proven beyond any doubt that they are not operating with the law in mind but good luck with that shit.
Citing Supreme Court's overturn of Chevron, Mississippi district court forbid DHS (nationwide) from enforcing their pro-trans interpretation of Title IX
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Citing Supreme Court's overturn of Chevron, Mississippi district court forbid DHS (nationwide) from enforcing their pro-trans interpretation of Title IX
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This is logical. The order notes that the law from Congress does not mention Gender Identity. The DHS says that "Sex" includes gender identity.

To quote the order: "Since the word “sex” is not defined in Title IX, courts must interpret the term according to its meaning in or around 1972, when the statute was enacted." Since Title IX uses terms like "both sexes" the court doesn't find it persuasive that the law was meant to cover gender identity.

Good luck, DHS.
 
Also pretty sure he could just pardon himself since they are federal crimes and the DoJ has proven beyond any doubt that they are not operating with the law in mind but good luck with that shit.
Ignoring the "no impeachment no case" immunity I raised earlier as a possibility, I wonder...could Trump not just dismantle DoJ if they proceed with arresting him? Well, first we must make one thing clear, "In the criminal context, however, the Justice Department has long recognized that the separation of powers precludes the criminal prosecution of a sitting President.” Trump v. United States 603 U. S. ____ (2024), so any prosecution on their end would be malicious and subject to dismissal. But let's entertain my hypothetical. It is given, of course, that the "Department of Justice is a part of the executive branch and its first and foremost responsibility is to represent the interests of the President and the executive branch" United States v. Providence Journal Co., 485 U.S. 693, 108 S. Ct. 1502 (1988). The head of the executive branch is, obviously, the siting president. Trump 603 U. S. ____ (2024). In fact, "the entirety of the executive power" is vested in the President. In other words, Department of Justice borrows power from the President. It would follow, therefore, that the President could recall the powers to himself if he were to so desire.

There is another matter. DoJ does not work for itself. It's job is to "provide[] vital assistance to the President in the performance of the latter's constitutional duty to preserve, protect, and defend the Constitution of the United States." Mitchell v. Forsyth, 472 U.S. 511, 105 S. Ct. 2806 (1985). It would follow then that the DoJ could no more arrest the President, then the President could arrest himself.
Good luck, DHS.
Things are looking up! Supreme Court made the right call overturning Chevron
 
In other words, Department of Justice borrows power from the President. It would follow, therefore, that the President could recall the powers to himself if he were to so desire.
It's patently obvious that any DOJ that tries to prosecute their boss is getting purged. Like I said on a previous page, this is just posturing. If they haven't managed to try him by election day, they are not ever going to try him, and Presidential Immunity has pretty much killed all of these cases.

They're trying to look tough because they know, come January 20th, that they'll all be looking for new jobs
 
It's patently obvious that any DOJ that tries to prosecute their boss is getting purged. Like I said on a previous page, this is just posturing. If they haven't managed to try him by election day, they are not ever going to try him, and Presidential Immunity has pretty much killed all of these cases.

They're trying to look tough because they know, come January 20th, that they'll all be looking for new jobs
As they said in the article, this isn't about trying to prosecute him once he's in office, it's a promise that if he wins they'll spend the intervening 2.5 months doing whatever they can to remove him from being able to take office because they know their asses are grass if he gets sworn in again.
 
it's a promise
More of a threat, really
they'll spend the intervening 2.5 months doing whatever they can to remove him from being able to take office
If worst comes to worst, he could probably be sworn in in prison. I don't think it will come to that, though. Presidential Immunity more-or-less kills the cases in DC, Florida and probably Georgia and will probably result in a juicy mistrial in New York. If they had anything outside the scope of his Presidency to charge him with, they'd have done so
 
The copesters on Twitter are still hard at work trying to explain away Biden's catastrophic debate performance.
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She was telling Biden to look at Jake Tapper. I have seen the theories on that and it is pretty clear that is what was happening just by watching the video.

It is pretty funny to see CNN getting attacked. The most likely scenario was that the people who put that shitshow together really thought cheap fakes were real and Joe was actually a 20d chess wizard with no brain damblage at all. It is possible however that they knew Biden was a puddin' brain and knew it would be a moderate duration ratings bonanza.

Either way: Let them fight.
 
Citing Supreme Court's overturn of Chevron, Mississippi district court forbid DHS (nationwide) from enforcing their pro-trans interpretation of Title IX
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This might get the progressives up in arms (literally) over Chevron. Remember, progress only goes one way and only the left is to decide what that means. You aren't allowed to roll back "trans rights." Even when the right is to allow a 40 year old man access to your 6 year old in a public bathroom.
 

"In public he's a retard, but in private he's really smart!"

Someone remind the Democrats that's the exact same thing people said about George W Bush, but it didn't stop Obama/Biden campaign from calling him the WORST PREZ EVER that needed to be deposed.

(The difference is people from both sides said that about Bush, and he wasn't older than the Cryptkeeper, he was just goofy in public.)
 
Ignoring the "no impeachment no case" immunity I raised earlier as a possibility, I wonder...could Trump not just dismantle DoJ if they proceed with arresting him? Well, first we must make one thing clear, "In the criminal context, however, the Justice Department has long recognized that the separation of powers precludes the criminal prosecution of a sitting President.” Trump v. United States 603 U. S. ____ (2024), so any prosecution on their end would be malicious and subject to dismissal. But let's entertain my hypothetical. It is given, of course, that the "Department of Justice is a part of the executive branch and its first and foremost responsibility is to represent the interests of the President and the executive branch" United States v. Providence Journal Co., 485 U.S. 693, 108 S. Ct. 1502 (1988). The head of the executive branch is, obviously, the siting president. Trump 603 U. S. ____ (2024). In fact, "the entirety of the executive power" is vested in the President. In other words, Department of Justice borrows power from the President. It would follow, therefore, that the President could recall the powers to himself if he were to so desire.

I would be hard pressed to believe the DOJ could do anything prosecutorial to the president for the mere fact that in the federalist paper #69 (that everyone continues to purposefully and disingenuously misinterpret on X) says that the president must be removed from office prior to prosecution. No, the papers are not law, but it shines a very bright light on their intent, which clearly was that the office of the president is what has immunity, not the person, and the person must be out of office before any prosecution can start in order to protect the office. This is the foundation of immunity for every branch, is that you can't prosecute the office for doing their job (such as a judge ruling or a senator voting). It would strike against the heart of what the founders had set up.

This is in line with the supreme court ruling that impeachment and conviction is not required in this case, because Trump is no longer a sitting president. He does not hold the office. And as long as the prosecutions don't extend into the acts of the office (which would damage the office, not the person), he is open to prosecution.
 
The most likely scenario was that the people who put that shitshow together really thought cheap fakes were real and Joe was actually a 20d chess wizard with no brain damblage at all. It is possible however that they knew Biden was a puddin' brain and knew it would be a moderate duration ratings bonanza.
I mean, I wouldn't put it beyond CNN to believe their own bullshit, but they knew Biden was impaired. Tapper, that Russiagate truther, he knew. He's one of the ones instrumental in helping to cover it up
 
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