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Yeah yeah but they don't have 5000lbs tow ratings.
Not Just Bikes / r/fuckcars / Urbanists / New Urbanism / Car-Free / Anti-Car - People and grifters who hate personal transport, freedom, cars, roads, suburbs, and are obsessed with city planning and urban design
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Aw, cute. I like it. Anyway, I still don't understand what a stroad is.
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an arterial you don't like
so champs de elise in paris? beautiful boulevard
same damn thing in houston? evil stroad
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Without fail they always manage to bring this up. While cars (in exceptions to classics) don't appreciate in value they enable people more opportunities to gain more value with the utility they provide as a tool. Wanna start a small business, well you're going to need something to make quick runs to collect things at a moment's notice.
Instead of buying anything meaningful with the money saved he spends his money on porn and video games. And unsurprisingly he is a failure to launch. This might seem like a stretch, but it seems like the people who can't drive (barring actual disabilities like being blind) are a lot like this. Perhaps it's because driving involves taking a risk and putting yourself outside of your own comfort zone to do something important. The idea of having any serious responsibilities terrifies them. Why get a job when I can stay home, play games and coom where it's safe.
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They hate the roundabout because they are too retarded to figure it out
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Cars do in fact increase your economic opportunity. Even The Atlantic admits it.
They used to advocate for roundabouts because it slowed down cars, but now I guess that's different because it finally clicked that cyclists can't just blast through like retards, either.
As for pedestrians, RGR pointed out that its worst for pedestrians, too, but I guess they found that out too either way.
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That never stopped some people.......... you don't understand the concept of "existential dread" until you realize the S10 pickup you're following is "towing" a loaded cattle trailer trailer that's longer and heavier than it, all while tied on to the simple ball hitch on a very rusty-looking bumper and reciever....
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The torque converter means you can get damn near any weight moving.
The brakes, who the fuck needs BRAKES?
The brakes, who the fuck needs BRAKES?
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Because they are attention whoring hypocrites above all else, like those animal euthanising hypocrites at PETA
Not to PL too much, but to provide some more accurate numbers, Rego costs(including mandatory 3rd party person insurance) has risen to $800-1000 per year depending on state and other stuff(my next renewal is about $900) Full comp insurance for my 10+ year old car is $650ish after I cracked it at them for trying to raise it to $800+ a year, and I get cheaper than average fuel(RON91, AKI85) but still spend about $160 a month with a short 10-15 min commute.
On my actual numbers including some stuff like roadside assistance club membership ends up being about $300 per month excluding servicing, which is usually only about $150ish twice a year, unless something significant needs doing, even then usually works out a bit under $1k a year, so your guess was pretty close lol.
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That was my thought as well, it's a classic consoomer stereotype. But it's the upvotes that worry me. All in all it just goes to show that they want to be eternal teenagers with no responsibilities. A well adjusted adult with a family will obviously prefer having a car and normal human interactions. An eternal fuckcars teenagers will prioritize artificial human interactions- like OF subscription- that allows them to get some human connection without burdening them with any obligations towards other actual humans (eg taking care of the wife or kids).
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What's ironic is that the style of roundabout pictured is actually very popular in the Netherlands.They're complaining about "deadly" roundabouts now. Also new urbanist term just dropped.
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Sorry for (almost) double posting but I remembered this legendary battle of the titans from a city where I used to study. Enjoy your car-full weekends my friends!
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The original definition, which it must be noted they never use any more, was a wide, multi-lane road built to a highway standard, with large signs and wide lanes that encourage fast driving, but that also has a lot of side-road exits and facing commercial and residential properties. The original proposed solution, which even the dutchaboo used to favour, was to have parallel access roads for lower-speed traffic to access all the facing properties and side-streets, with just occasional junctions between the main arterial and the parallel service roads. It's a pretty decent solution for a lot of circumstances, so of course they abandoned it to favour the demand for ripping up roads and replacing them with bike lanes and railways.
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Basically "stroads" come about because you have a small town with a wide "main road" (which is almost never Main Street for some reason) and things build up and traffic gets more and more, and suddenly all the entrances to that road are too much.
It's pretty easy to solve if you can redirect the properties against the road to dump onto the side streets first, so cars are entering and exiting and crossroads only, but that costs money so it doesn't get done until it's really needed.
If you've ever been on a driveway where you had to turn right and then u-turn that was probably a stroad or close to it.
It's pretty easy to solve if you can redirect the properties against the road to dump onto the side streets first, so cars are entering and exiting and crossroads only, but that costs money so it doesn't get done until it's really needed.
If you've ever been on a driveway where you had to turn right and then u-turn that was probably a stroad or close to it.
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It's easier to make a 4 lane main road than it is to make 2 frontage roads leading onto a main road. You pretty much have to bulldoze everything for 100 feet on both sides, instead of 20.
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It's almost like the reason roads that have multiple lanes have multiple lanes so that drivers who are turning out can use the right lane while thru traffic can pass at speed in the other ones!
...No, that's not right. Obviously, roads with multiple lanes have them because they're built by evil carbrains who want to increase the spawn rate of 16 ton F-450s that kill innocent cyclists who dindu nuffin.
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Like 90% of the problems of living in a city, they're all caused by people being assholes and niggers.
The problems stroads have basically are caused by drivers being assholes/niggers, which is called "overloading" or "congestion".
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Following from my previous longpost, one other thing that urbanists tend to forget was that things can and did change before World War II as well. There's a popular idea that somehow things were constant and people liked their urban neighborhoods just up until around 1950 when everything changed, but it isn't true. In 1942, a children's book called The Little House was published, followed by a Disney adaptation in 1952.
The story is of a house out in the countryside in the 19th century, who witnesses the neighborhood change around her, and her physical condition deteriorates as time moves on. First, she gets surrounded by 1800s-era mansions...until those burn down. Then she gets surrounded by crappy early 20th century brick tenement buildings with loud, violent people, which are then demolished for skyscrapers. She finds that the city is a terrible place, lights, noise, newspapers declaring "NEW MURDER!", and is left alone and deteriorated, wishing for death.
Of course, being a children's book, it has a happy ending, with her being moved out to the countryside again and restored.
Plus the "stroads" argument (originally anyway) hinged on "fast traffic" but most "stroads" are only signed 30-40 mph max. Not that urbanists pay much attention to the actual details anyway.
Tying the two subjects together is that despite what Charles Moron thinks no road is "built" as a "stroad". You see it with rural roads all the time. It starts out as a road to link farms and agricultural areas to main highways and city centers and things just starting get built on it. A gas station here, a subdivision there, and before you know it, a bunch of things built along it, and suddenly it's a "stroad" all because development came along.
In this example, we'll look at Farm-to-Market Road 1045 in Texas (which it still is) circa 1943, about the time of the . Nice agricultural area, only people to use it are farmers and people going out in that direction.
This is the same shot, taken a little over 70 years later. (It is of course Houston. You may recognize it from this post). That same square that once held maybe 20 houses and lots of land for growing and grazing, as of 2019 now features probably over a thousand apartment units, hundreds of houses and townhomes, Target, Walmart, Home Depot, various storage facilities, banks, gas stations, a large movie theater, and lots of restaurants. You can even see how the spaces between the field plots of 1943 carry over to modern development. Some of this is even second-generation development (the Target replaced a restaurant and a large garden center, the Home Depot shopping center replaced a Super Kmart, and the apartments just south of the Walmart replaced a Sam's Club).
There's a lot to complain about, whether the homeless population in the area, or the general riff-raff of the apartment complexes causing crime along the corridor, or just general urban bullshit.
It is not, however, "designed wrong" (city design is largely subjective), because to be designed "wrong" or "right" meaning that there will be an inherent thing that never changes.
According to them, "correctly" designed cities have mixed-use buildings and transit. What good is a mixed-use building, however, if it doesn't have commercial tenants? You can make empty space look semi-attractive by covering the windows with graphics and keeping the lights on, but an "exciting leasing opportunity" isn't exactly conducive for going shopping or sidewalk dining.
Likewise, transit isn't very useful if service grinds to a near-halt (once again, I'll bring up their favorite subject, college campuses, as an example--the campus bus system will slow its service down so much during holidays that it's impractical to use it).
Ultimately, the only inherent things to an area are climate and topography. Everything else is window dressing.
The story is of a house out in the countryside in the 19th century, who witnesses the neighborhood change around her, and her physical condition deteriorates as time moves on. First, she gets surrounded by 1800s-era mansions...until those burn down. Then she gets surrounded by crappy early 20th century brick tenement buildings with loud, violent people, which are then demolished for skyscrapers. She finds that the city is a terrible place, lights, noise, newspapers declaring "NEW MURDER!", and is left alone and deteriorated, wishing for death.
Of course, being a children's book, it has a happy ending, with her being moved out to the countryside again and restored.
Plus the "stroads" argument (originally anyway) hinged on "fast traffic" but most "stroads" are only signed 30-40 mph max. Not that urbanists pay much attention to the actual details anyway.
Tying the two subjects together is that despite what Charles Moron thinks no road is "built" as a "stroad". You see it with rural roads all the time. It starts out as a road to link farms and agricultural areas to main highways and city centers and things just starting get built on it. A gas station here, a subdivision there, and before you know it, a bunch of things built along it, and suddenly it's a "stroad" all because development came along.
In this example, we'll look at Farm-to-Market Road 1045 in Texas (which it still is) circa 1943, about the time of the . Nice agricultural area, only people to use it are farmers and people going out in that direction.
This is the same shot, taken a little over 70 years later. (It is of course Houston. You may recognize it from this post). That same square that once held maybe 20 houses and lots of land for growing and grazing, as of 2019 now features probably over a thousand apartment units, hundreds of houses and townhomes, Target, Walmart, Home Depot, various storage facilities, banks, gas stations, a large movie theater, and lots of restaurants. You can even see how the spaces between the field plots of 1943 carry over to modern development. Some of this is even second-generation development (the Target replaced a restaurant and a large garden center, the Home Depot shopping center replaced a Super Kmart, and the apartments just south of the Walmart replaced a Sam's Club).
There's a lot to complain about, whether the homeless population in the area, or the general riff-raff of the apartment complexes causing crime along the corridor, or just general urban bullshit.
It is not, however, "designed wrong" (city design is largely subjective), because to be designed "wrong" or "right" meaning that there will be an inherent thing that never changes.
According to them, "correctly" designed cities have mixed-use buildings and transit. What good is a mixed-use building, however, if it doesn't have commercial tenants? You can make empty space look semi-attractive by covering the windows with graphics and keeping the lights on, but an "exciting leasing opportunity" isn't exactly conducive for going shopping or sidewalk dining.
Likewise, transit isn't very useful if service grinds to a near-halt (once again, I'll bring up their favorite subject, college campuses, as an example--the campus bus system will slow its service down so much during holidays that it's impractical to use it).
Ultimately, the only inherent things to an area are climate and topography. Everything else is window dressing.
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Unexpected nostalgia!