Lord Frogmire Appreciation Thread - The Better Brother (Formerly Known as Synthetic Man Appreciation Thread) - Might have an account here

[Georgio Cocklord]

With ER it really makes me despise games that expect you to look online for builds and item locations. I'd rather have quest markers and quest journal.

Back in the day it used to be game guides and gaming magazines. That was part of Fromsoft charm when DS1 released, how uncommunicative it was but then from a 90s arcade type game it became something akin to minecraft or terraria where its so complex that you have to play with the Wiki open, which sucks.

The dlc’s sodomy really highlights the unholy power formed when horny old dinosaurs and pedophile slants put their brains together. People are really shocked about this deviancy?

I always saw it more as how dark subject matter can go cause generally Modern western dark is different from Japanese dark and proto western dark. The Bible is probably one of the darkest pieces of fiction/fact in western canon and it features all sorts of sodomy among other subject matter. Same with Japan. Its not "look at femboy bussy" although a lot of brainrotted coomers will take it that way but rather look at how disgusting and rotten everything is. I am a bit skeptical that its completely the case cause From has to cave in to ESG at some point but Im also skeptical that this isnt completely that.

His take on the direction the series went in reminded me of that one Matthewmatosis video. Fromsoft is a little too confident in the spectacles they make and not confident enough in their ability to facilitate mechanical intrigue beyond learning enemy move sets to minimize damage. The difference between a boss like Old Hero and a boss like Malenia is a testament to how much things have changed.

Fromsoft found a comfortable formula and theyre not gonna quit that formula easily especially in an age of recycled content. Its as simple as that. Its not a bad formula but its rather a stale formula, I still enjoy DSIII and I havent played Bloodborne/Elden Ring but it has to wear off eventually. Dont forget the stamina based combat system, cryptic hints, non linear progression and all that went back to KingsField 1, From only became successful cause Miyazaki injected his brand of spectacle and storytelling.

Genuine question, would anyone here prefer they stick with what they're doing now or just bite the bullet and make a proper Devil May Cry/Bayonetta style action game? I personally don't see them going back to a pre-Elden Ring design style since it made them so much more money than the older Souls games did.

I dont think a platinum games style game would fit From, Platinum games and a lot of the stupid shit from Capcom were the way they were because of Shinji Mikami. That man has a distinct charm and personality he adds to his games and you can see it in all of it from RE1 to Dino Crisis to God Hand to Evil Within. Kamiya is just Shinji Mikami lite and forever destined to live under his shadow. Fromsoft games are not wacky, they dont have humor and theyre not mechanically that complex, they cannot make a game in that style. Imagine it this way, DMC and Bayonetta are PVE beat em ups in 3d, basically. Would fromsoft games come under that category?

 

[The Tall Man]

I always saw it more as how dark subject matter can go cause generally Modern western dark is different from Japanese dark and proto western dark. The Bible is probably one of the darkest pieces of fiction/fact in western canon and it features all sorts of sodomy among other subject matter. Same with Japan. Its not "look at femboy bussy" although a lot of brainrotted coomers will take it that way but rather look at how disgusting and rotten everything is. I am a bit skeptical that its completely the case cause From has to cave in to ESG at some point but Im also skeptical that this isnt completely that.

I would call the Bible, Arab stories, and those people love and live their degeneracy.

For me to believe that this is supposed to be a dark and twisted aspect of the story, then that aspect would need to be made horrifying or at least deliberately disgusting.
I also wouldn't blame this on ESG. The gook has a femboy/troon fetish because he makes them look idealized while most things in his world are a misshapen parody.
If his troon characters looked like troons with unsettling malformed faces and bad hairlines, then I would agree that it's done to show the horror of such things.

This is what femboys and troons wished they would look like.

This is an idealized portrayal of Troonery and in no way a dark, horrifying or even unsettling portrayal.

Elden Ring makes you watch Miyazaki's troon fetish and Martin's incest fetish.

 

[Georgio Cocklord]

For me to believe that this is supposed to be a dark and twisted aspect of the story, then that aspect would need to be made horrifying or at least deliberately disgusting.

I also wouldn't blame this on ESG. The gook has a femboy/troon fetish because he makes them look idealized while most things in his world are a misshapen parody.

Griffith is also a twink, doesnt make him a good person though.

If his troon characters looked like troons with unsettling malformed faces and bad hairlines, then I would agree that it's done to show the horror of such things.

This is just the western perception of troons, the japanese perception of troons is very much different, japanese troons are themselves very different, exceptionally so. This isnt to excuse or enable troonery, its just a natural difference, just what it is.

 

[Maniacal Foreigner]

This is just the western perception of troons, the japanese perception of troons is very much different, japanese troons are themselves very different, exceptionally so. This isnt to excuse or enable troonery, its just a natural difference, just what it is.

On average, it's much easier for Asian males to "pass", it's a genetic difference. Plus, Japan does also have a long history of bending gender roles.

 

[Georgio Cocklord]

bending gender roles.

This not really, I would say gender bending perversion is more widespread in the west but in Japan its culturally normalized. Thats the difference, there are more troons in the West while in Asian countries trooning is considered socially normal to some extent.

 

[The Tall Man]

Griffith is also a twink, doesnt make him a good person though.

Griffith is an interesting character who isn't a twink for some fetish reason or to have sex with his brother. He is a ruthless, calculating, and capable warlord who has the looks of a handsome young man. His appearance as a twink is meant to create a contrast to what he does and accomplishes. There is actually a compelling reason for Griffith to look as he does; there isn't for Miquella or Gwyndolin. They would make equal or more sense simply being women.

This is just the western perception of troons, the japanese perception of troons is very much different, japanese troons are themselves very different, exceptionally so. This isnt to excuse or enable troonery, its just a natural difference, just what it is.

Sure, but how does that change that these troon characters are obviously Miyazaki's fetish?

 

[Georgio Cocklord]

Him looking like a twink is done to create a contrast to what he does and accomplishes.

From what I heard about Miquella, hes probably the same

Sure, but how does that change that these troon characters are obviously Miyazaki's fetish?

Theres been two twink characters in fromsoft games. How is this Miyazakis fetish?

 

[The Tall Man]

Theres been two twink characters in fromsoft games. How is this Miyazakis fetish?

His world is filled with broken and hideous creatures, but then he adds his cute crossdressing twinks for no good reason.

From what I heard about Miquella, hes probably the same

How is Miquella a warlord or someone who accomplishes overly male deeds?

The lore literally describes him as a broken weakling who relies on his sister to protect him. It would make more sense if he were a woman.
Both Miquella and Gwyndolin act like women, dress like women, and look oddly feminine but happen to be male.
Them being male adds basically nothing to the characters, so why did Miyazaki do it?

If you can give me a more reasonable explanation than it's his fetish, I will take it.

 

[Obsul]

I'll say this: The kind of faggotry that Miyazaki seems to exhibit with the trap characters is of a different and less insufferable nature than what exists in the west, which is the shrillest, most obnoxious, and most insane political shit imaginable. Many leftoids would find the normative beauty standards exhibited by the Japs in their depictions of this stuff problematic because they're not ugly.

 

[Georgio Cocklord]

His world is filled with broken and hideous creatures, but then he adds his cute crossdressing twinks for no good reason.

There have been two, out of countless creatures across multiple games. Second theyre both royalty so there is probably some indication of Royalty=Degeneracy like in Berserk. Third theyre not intentionally cute in the pornographic sense, thats Im sure a post hoc imposition and the fact that you consider them cute adds to the coomerbrain interpretation. Im not completely sure but Id like to believe that Miyazaki is not fetishistic in the slightest, hes not say Tsukasa Hojo, the City Hunter author who has a tranny in every one of his stories even if they fit contextually.

How is Miquella a warlord or someone who accomplishes overly male deeds?

The lore literally describes him as a broken weakling who relies on his sister to protect him. It would make more sense if he were a woman.

Demigod ish, not necessarily male deeds but since both Berserk and Elden Ring take influence from Greece/Paganism one must assume theyre heavily influenced by Apollo whos not a twink but more of a brash teenager kind of person. Thats my assumption, Im being charitable and partly biased cause I like Miyazaki.

Both Miquella and Gwyndolin act like women, dress like women, and look oddly feminine but happen to be male.
Them being male adds basically nothing to the characters, so why did Miyazaki do it?

Again both of them are Royalty and my assumption is to tie Royalty and power to degeneracy which is a prominent part of traditional dare I say right wing storytelling. It also ties into all the weird shit elites get into like raising boys to be feminine for exploitation or from degenerate parenting, thats a prominent occurrence in a lot of Greek/Semitic Myth.

Also by that standard Lothric and Lorian are dressed in dresses as well, even bear some resemblance to Gwyndolin. Are they supposed to be trannies?

 

[The Tall Man]

Again both of them are Royalty and my assumption is to tie Royalty and power to degeneracy which is a prominent part of traditional dare I say right wing storytelling. It also ties into all the weird shit elites get into like raising boys to be feminine for exploitation or from degenerate parenting, thats a prominent occurrence in a lot of Greek/Semitic Myth.

The reason I don't buy this is because they don't look inbred or uncanny.

 

[Sinner's Sandwich]

Miquella is the standard manga trope: Faggy dude that looks like a girl

 

[Wünderkind]

Again both of them are Royalty and my assumption is to tie Royalty and power to degeneracy which is a prominent part of traditional dare I say right wing storytelling.

Ain't this a revolutionary theme as it implies pre-modern societal hierarchies were built on lies rather than aristocratic excellence, and therefore needed to be taken down by the common people (or workers, or peasants, or oppressed minorities)? Doesn't sound too right wing to me.

 

[Georgio Cocklord]

Ain't this a revolutionary theme as it implies pre-modern societal hierarchies were built on lies rather than aristocratic excellence, and therefore needed to be taken down by the common people (or workers, or peasants, or oppressed minorities)? Doesn't sound too right wing to me.

I was talking about an anti elitist pov but sure. Its like saying Israel is full of pedophiles.

 

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[Maniacal Foreigner]

Its like saying Israel is full of pedophiles.

I mean...

 

[Mega Black]

Genuine question, would anyone here prefer they stick with what they're doing now or just bite the bullet and make a proper Devil May Cry/Bayonetta style action game? I personally don't see them going back to a pre-Elden Ring design style since it made them so much more money than the older Souls games did.

I think just about everyone would like From to do something different at this point. Even if they did another RPG of some kind, it should play radically differently from their current stock.

 

[Left Ass Cheek]

I think just about everyone would like From to do something different at this point. Even if they did another RPG of some kind, it should play radically differently from their current stock.

I think in one of the ER streams Synth read aloud something someone in chat said about how Miyazaki is considering making a traditional JRPG, and I think that'd actually be a great idea if they go for something turn based.
For as much flak as the animations and vfx might receive for gameplay/visual clarity reasons, no one can deny that From has gotten really good at creating some really elaborate and flashy enemy and boss designs that tend to hold up pretty well even as time passes. I still think Dancer of the Boreale Valley's spin-to-win is one of the coolest things ever created even to this day.

 

[go_away_now]

Has there been any chat thoughts of the recent drama? The discord I am in would indicate there is a cold war / civil war occurring between synth and long term fans. I have no idea what to think, as I haven't been watching many streams recently. I would lean toward synth being in the right but i refuse to use the youtube chat.

 

[Mexican_Wizard_711]

What happened to the video segments of Synth's streams?