GPUs & CPUs & Enthusiast hardware: Questions, Discussion and fanboy slap-fights - Nvidia & AMD & Intel - Separe but Equal. Intel rides in the back of the bus.

Habanero Delight said:
3080s (10 GB models specifically) are going in the low 300s used on eBay. I've had mostly great luck buying used computer stuff on there. Just avoid anyone with zero feedback as those are fake dummy listings and it will take eBay 15 days to get you your money back.
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Be suspicious of ebay and READ CAREFULLY, retards buying for parts shit and trying to send it to northwestrepair when its been stripped.

Barry McKockner said:
I'm looking at 40 series, not 30 series. I won't buy until the next gen is out though. Get the DLSS 3. I can hang on to my 980ti for a little while longer. I'm not playing any really demanding games right now.
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You've waited this long, may as well wait for 5000 and get the latest tech they lock to new cards.

The Ugly One said:
I wouldn't buy a 30 series, either. Each generation of DLSS is almost like an extra generation of hardware improvement. AMD's not in the same league.
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My 10 GB 3080 plays everything I play at 1440p, Just ignore hardware unboxed trying to spread FUD over vram. Why are people so adamant about not changing settings these days? OMG I CAN'T JUST PRESS ULTRA ON MY MIDRANGE CARD! When ultra still runs like dogshit on the flagship. So many games have almost imperceptible quality differences at like medium unless you are pixel peeping like some autistic faggot.
 
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TheRaptorJesus said:
Why are people so adamant about not changing settings these days? OMG I CAN'T JUST PRESS ULTRA ON MY MIDRANGE CARD! When ultra still runs like dogshit on the flagship. So many games have almost imperceptible quality differences at like medium unless you are pixel peeping like some autistic faggot.
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Some people do not seem to understand that one game's Ultra is another game's Medium either, like it's some sort of objective thing. Like nigger, just adjust settings until it has the right balance of prettiness, resolution, and smoothness for your tastes. Quality presets turned people into retards.
 
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The Ugly One said:
You and your fancy "hearing."
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In my defence I do have a pair of NF-A14 iPPC-3000 PWM fans on the internal radiator. If I unplug the external radiator and start something that strains both the CPU and the GPU, say Dyson Sphere Program, it'll approach server noise levels rather quickly.
Barry McKockner said:
But that's my entire point. For the same or close enough price point to that noctua, you could have a 240, even cheaper with current sales at even bestbuy. If the price point was $100, or you didn't have a case with rad mounts, I could understand. But like I said before, with the availability of cheap cases with rad mounts and the price point of AIOs (even the 240s), what's the point of spending $150 on a tower cooler?
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We're arguing for the same thing. I entirely agree that, if your case supports it, a 240+mm AIO is a better choice than a tower air cooler. I was only saying that you shouldn't get a 120/140mm AIO. They're not up to the task. AIOs are already much thinner and have lower fin density and poorer throughput than custom loops, and my extra-thick extra-dense 140mm AIO is still not really good enough.
 
The Ugly One said:
Some people do not seem to understand that one game's Ultra is another game's Medium either, like it's some sort of objective thing. Like nigger, just adjust settings until it has the right balance of prettiness, resolution, and smoothness for your tastes. Quality presets turned people into retards.
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The biggest issue is that most games have extreme DR when it comes to quality settings. And RT is really never worth it. These are the people who think consoles are running 4k ultra and not 720p VRR medium low to hit 30-45 fps.
 
TheRaptorJesus said:
These are the people who think consoles are running 4k ultra and not 720p VRR medium low to hit 30-45 fps
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Console games don't usually have quality settings. If it's cross-platform with PC, min settings is to run on a 900 series GeForce, which is 3 generations older than a PS5. It's been at least a decade since PC developers could rely on PC gamers having recent hardware.
 
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The Ugly One said:
Console games don't usually have quality settings. If it's cross-platform with PC, min settings is to run on a 900 series GeForce, which is 3 generations older than a PS5. It's been at least a decade since PC developers could rely on PC gamers having recent hardware.
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The Switch has two power modes, docked and undocked, that developers have to code for. Plus games for the Xbox X are supposed to also work on Xbox S
 
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The Ugly One said:
Console games don't usually have quality settings. If it's cross-platform with PC, min settings is to run on a 900 series GeForce, which is 3 generations older than a PS5. It's been at least a decade since PC developers could rely on PC gamers having recent hardware.
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Don't a lot of ps5 games have performance and quality modes? And both are dogshit variable resolution scaling.
 
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Well, went to put my 980ti back in my case and it seems the built in pump for the AIO cooler on it shit the bed (it was an EVGA 980ti Hybrid). Max fan, liquid in the system, but no cooling or heat coming out of the rad. Had to run and get a new card quicker than I wanted. Got a 4070 super, and it's going to be good I think. Runs all of my existing games on max settings just fine.

Sucks that I couldn't wait for something better, but I guess I can't ask for much using a 9 to 10 year old graphics card. It has served me well.
 
Just popping in to say my AMD laptop runs hot as balls, even on battery, and I'm really sick of it. I used the advanced power setting in Windows to throttle it to 1.5 GHz when on battery, which seems to help. But looking at things with HWInfo64 shows this:

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All I'm doing is editing an Excel spreadsheet and using my browser, so it's kind of crazy how hot the CPU is running.

I'm not sure whether to blame ASUS or AMD, but the cores rarely drop below their max clock speed significantly. No wonder this thing seems to generate more heat than my Intel desktop, which does the opposite and tends to keep the clocks pretty low when not doing anything important.
 
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The Ugly One said:
Just popping in to say my AMD laptop runs hot as balls, even on battery, and I'm really sick of it. I used the advanced power setting in Windows to throttle it to 1.5 GHz when on battery, which seems to help. But looking at things with HWInfo64 shows this:

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All I'm doing is editing an Excel spreadsheet and using my browser, so it's kind of crazy how hot the CPU is running.

I'm not sure whether to blame ASUS or AMD, but the cores rarely drop below their max clock speed significantly. No wonder this thing seems to generate more heat than my Intel desktop, which does the opposite and tends to keep the clocks pretty low when not doing anything important.
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Is there ANY chance of a rogue program artificially sucking up compute time, or has it always been ass-backwards like this? I usually take clocks staying high across the cup when not doing anything to mean there's a rogue or broken program somewhere on my computer, and I've been right 99% of the time.
 
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AIO users lol!

I need to fix my page since I consolidated fans and reinstalled windows and lost my virtual delta sensors. The sensors without the decimals are the shitty sensors built into the mobo and no the octo.
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Barry McKockner said:
Is there ANY chance of a rogue program artificially sucking up compute time, or has it always been ass-backwards like this? I usually take clocks staying high across the cup when not doing anything to mean there's a rogue or broken program somewhere on my computer, and I've been right 99% of the time.
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The computer has been a small furnace since the day I got it. There are all of five tasks using over 1% CPU, and all of those are below 3%. The monitor even reports that Core 7 is at 0% utilization, so it's just spinning at 1.3 GHz for no fucking reason at all. It just can't break out of GOTTA GO FAST mode. Shitty AMD BIOS? Shitty ASUS BIOS? No idea.
 
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The Ugly One said:
I'm not sure whether to blame ASUS or AMD, but the cores rarely drop below their max clock speed significantly.
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From what I've seen, AMD CPUs don't usually idle to low clocks with the default BIOS settings. ASUS may have also turned off memory power savings to get a few extra points on gaming benchmarks and that does significantly increase idle power consumption on zen
 
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The Ugly One said:
The computer has been a small furnace since the day I got it. There are all of five tasks using over 1% CPU, and all of those are below 3%. The monitor even reports that Core 7 is at 0% utilization, so it's just spinning at 1.3 GHz for no fucking reason at all. It just can't break out of GOTTA GO FAST mode. Shitty AMD BIOS? Shitty ASUS BIOS? No idea.
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That makes ZERO sense to be at 0% load and 1.3 GHz. Did you check the profile in the bios?
 
The Ugly One said:
Just popping in to say my AMD laptop runs hot as balls, even on battery, and I'm really sick of it. I used the advanced power setting in Windows to throttle it to 1.5 GHz when on battery, which seems to help. But looking at things with HWInfo64 shows this:

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All I'm doing is editing an Excel spreadsheet and using my browser, so it's kind of crazy how hot the CPU is running.

I'm not sure whether to blame ASUS or AMD, but the cores rarely drop below their max clock speed significantly. No wonder this thing seems to generate more heat than my Intel desktop, which does the opposite and tends to keep the clocks pretty low when not doing anything important.
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>Buying a laptop from SNSV.
Here's your problem.
 
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