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https://www.cheknews.ca/pit-bull-attack-near-nanaimo-injures-two-children-and-one-woman-450395/

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Two 8-month-old pit bulls that were loose in Nanaimo attacked several children, severely injuring at least one. Other people that came to aid the children were also injured.

The children were playing in a yard at the house of one of their friends. The dogs were from somewhere else in the neighborhood and had been cited for being at large previously.

One of the owners of the dogs came and got the dogs but did not stick around. The news interviewed the other owner, a Dangerhair that looked to be in her late 40s or early 50s. While she was devastated at what her dogs had done, she said to the reporter, "People are saying, look at this from the prospective of a parent, well, these dogs are my kids, too," and then she broke down crying.

It was later reported both dogs were euthanized, as there have been other incidents prior to this one, and due to the severity of the injuries the one particular child sustained.

To the dangerhair dog owner I would have to say, "If these dogs were your KIDS, you did a lousy job of raising them. Thank heavens you didn't spawn any of your own."

 

[Less Nasty Old Person]

I know what you meant, i just made an association I haven't before.

It has to do with pigment cells and inner-ear nerve cells coming from the same embryonic source. If pigment-suppressing white-spotting genes keep the pigment cells in the head area from developing properly, the animal goes deaf shortly after birth as the inner ear nerve cells die. Hence a lot of deaf Dalmations and other breeds with some (but not all) white spotting genes -- I don't know that GSPs and English Setters, both with superficially similar patterns, have a higher than average incidence of deagness, for example.

You'll see this phrmomrnon in most mammal species including humans -- a gene that often causes a white streak in the hair plus or minus different-colored eyes also causes deafness in a significant proportion of cases. White cats are notoriously deaf, especially when they have blue eyes (nevertheless I had one who could hear just fine). The merle gene in dogs can cause deafness and malformed eyes in puppies when both parents are merles (and fucking breeders advertise their deaf/blind double merle stud dogs because all pups from a litter will have the pretty markings). The splash white gene in paint horses often causes deafness if there's a lot of white on the face -- a prominent reining sire named Gunner was deaf, along with an awful lot of his distinctively marked offspring (interestingly, other white spotting genes don't do this, however there is a different one that causes an underdeveloped digestive tract when homozygous, known as Lethal White Overo Syndrome -- it's why you don't breed Frame Overo to Frame Overo because the resulting all-white foals die of colic shortly after birth).

It probably occurs in other animals too -- breeding roan to roan in guinea pigs causes homozygous pups to be born deaf and blind, and often with underdeveloped jaws and missing teeth.

Pigment is surprisingly critical for proper embryonic nervous system development. There's a lot more going on under the surface besides the pretty coat patterns you can actually see.

 

[Averagest Redditor]

It gets kinda heavy in here at times, what with all the death and maulings, so I figured we could use a bit of levity. I don't have any context for this clip - but enjoy seeing a couple of bong police officers struggle to contain a hellbeast.

 

[everybody in Portugal]

It gets kinda heavy in here at times, what with all the death and maulings, so I figured we could use a bit of levity. I don't have any context for this clip - but enjoy seeing a couple of bong police officers struggle to contain a hellbeast.


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I have marginally more context—it was the PSNI in Belfast. The area they were in is by no means the shittiest bit of the city but it is pretty down-at-heel, so this attack nannying goodboi very much tracks.

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[Mourning_Cloak]

It was weird as all fuck, but she was a very sweet girl and I miss that dog even though she wasn't mine.

I lived with a family member for a period during college. When they announced they were bringing home a foster GSD/Aussie/Husky mix, I was extremely nervous because we also had a cat and a small dog. I knew by virtue of it being a foster that it more than likely has never experienced an ounce of consistent training and would probably have a high herding (or prey) drive. Miraculously the dog turned out to be a couch potato that never barks. It was a massive relief.

 

[Super Guido]

It gets kinda heavy in here at times, what with all the death and maulings, so I figured we could use a bit of levity. I don't have any context for this clip - but enjoy seeing a couple of bong police officers struggle to contain a hellbeast.


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Look at that heckin wholesome doggo playing with the officer's boot - while it's still on her foot!

 

[autoerotic bus accident]

/r/banpitbulls has catalogued 53 human fatalities from pitbull attacks so far in 2024. 41 adults and 12 children.

 

[The Foxtrot]

/r/banpitbulls has catalogued 53 human fatalities from pitbull attacks so far in 2024. 41 adults and 12 children.

And those are only fatalities. I wonder how many injuries shitbulls have caused so far in total, and how many of what category.

 

[autoerotic bus accident]

And those are only fatalities. I wonder how many injuries shitbulls have caused so far in total, and how many of what category.

They've also logged 1,200+ attacks and 300+ animal fatalities this year, but those numbers are less reliable because nonfatal attacks and animal fatalities are much less likely to make the news.

For nonfatal attacks - including very severe and disfiguring attacks - research estimates the ratio at 25 attacks for every one that is actually reported in the media.

In addition, pit bulls kill more dogs, cats, and livestock than every other breed of dog combined: for example in 2017 those totals were estimated at 13,000 dogs, 5,000 cats, and 20,000 livestock animals (chickens, goats, horses etc) killed by pit bull type dogs.

 

[Bucephalus]

Got attacked by an off-leash shitbull while walking my dog today. Not going to powerlevel, not going to vent - we're both fine, but if I wasn't full-on TPBD before, I sure as hell am now.

Anyone ITT know of some inexpensive (<$400 USD) body armor/protective vests for dogs? It doesn't have to stop bullets. Just teeth.

 

[DumbDude43]

Anyone ITT know of some inexpensive (<$400 USD) body armor/protective vests for dogs? It doesn't have to stop bullets. Just teeth.

dog armor exists, some nobles in old times put it on their prized hunting dogs so they wouldn't get gored to death when hunting wild boar. but it doesn't seem very realistic or practical today.
if you're that worried about getting attacked, you should probably think about protecting yourself first, not your dog. don't walk around in body armor, rather walk around armed so you can fight off a potential attacker. firearms if legal and feasible, otherwise a knife is probably the best you can do.

 

[East_Clintwood]

Anyone ITT know of some inexpensive (<$400 USD) body armor/protective vests for dogs? It doesn't have to stop bullets. Just teeth.

I don't know any particular brands off the top of my head. Best I can suggest is looking into hunting, especially hog hunting, gear. I'm sure some forums/subreddits on those subjects can point you in the direction of a specific recommended brand.

but it doesn't seem very realistic or practical today.

In an age of shit like kevlar it's absolutely practical. One of the women who works for me has one of those annoying yappy little dogs, and it has a spiked, kevlar reinforced vest to protect it from coyotes.

 

[Nonga Tork]

Got attacked by an off-leash shitbull while walking my dog today. Not going to powerlevel, not going to vent - we're both fine, but if I wasn't full-on TPBD before, I sure as hell am now.

Anyone ITT know of some inexpensive (<$400 USD) body armor/protective vests for dogs? It doesn't have to stop bullets. Just teeth.

There are coyote vests, though I'm not sure how useful they'd be against an animal that won't back off after being stabbed in the mouth.

 

[Equal Rights for Androids]

There are coyote vests, though I'm not sure how useful they'd be against an animal that won't back off after being stabbed in the mouth.

they are better than nothing. Get it if you value your dog's life and you're plagued by pits. It's a first line of defence. It makes it difficult to get a clamp on the neck, and if your dog is really small, it makes it very difficult to get a good clamp on the body (which is what many pits go for for smaller dogs to ragdoll). They may go for the legs at that point on larger dogs, but that's preferred over their neck where they can die more easily.

 

[BongoMongo]

I have marginally more context—it was the PSNI in Belfast. The area they were in is by no means the shittiest bit of the city but it is pretty down-at-heel, so this attack nannying goodboi very much tracks.

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I've never understood why people being attacked by dogs make no attempt to kill the animals. Especially those awful shit tier dogs. Jumping on their spines will do it. Trying to slip that baton through the collar and twisting would also do it too. If you can grab both legs and yank out side ways , even better.

I have killed a dog going for me. There were literally no legal consequences at all. I don't care if it's someone's little baby, if it comes for me I will do my damnedest to hurt it or incapacitate it or kill if if I have to. I can't understand why people don't try and kill an animal intent on harming them.

 

[DumbDude43]

I've never understood why people being attacked by dogs make no attempt to kill the animals. Especially those awful shit tier dogs. Jumping on their spines will do it. Trying to slip that baton through the collar and twisting would also do it too. If you can grab both legs and yank out side ways , even better.

I have killed a dog going for me. There were literally no legal consequences at all. I don't care if it's someone's little baby, if it comes for me I will do my damnedest to hurt it or incapacitate it or kill if if I have to. I can't understand why people don't try and kill an animal intent on harming them.

do these northern ireland cops not carry guns? if that flimsy baton is all they have, they are outgunned by the pitbull.
but both the male cop and that civilian woman are using that baton like absolute pussies, it loos like they put absolutely no force into their swings. maybe it would do the job if used with more conviction.

 

[BongoMongo]

do these northern ireland cops not carry guns? if that flimsy baton is all they have, they are outgunned by the pitbull.
but both the male cop and that civilian woman are using that baton like absolute pussies, it loos like they put absolutely no force into their swings. maybe it would do the job if used with more conviction.

Were they NI Police Officers? Jeez Louise. They act like total fucking cowards. My grandma could put a better fight up and she's been on her grave nigh on a decade.

 

[DumbDude43]

Were they NI Police Officers? Jeez Louise. They act like total fucking cowards. My grandma could put a better fight up and she's been on her grave nigh on a decade.

yes, @everybody in Portugal linked an article and said that it was the PSNI in Belfast
and it looks like they are using one of those shitty lightweight expandable batons. those are designed to cause pain while minimizing risk of serious injury, but a pitbull is not easily deterred by pain so the weapon is pretty useless in this situation.

 

[BongoMongo]

yes, @everybody in Portugal linked an article and said that it was the PSNI in Belfast
and it looks like they are using one of those shitty lightweight expandable batons. those are designed to cause pain while minimizing risk of serious injury, but a pitbull is not easily deterred by pain so the weapon is pretty useless in this situation.

Oh you mean one of those flicky ones that extends when you flick your wrist?

A cousin of mine got a "Brazilian pitbull" a few months back. I can see no functional difference between that and an American one. They blew have a newborn child. I give it 6 months til that baby is pedigree chum.

 

[DumbDude43]

Oh you mean one of those flicky ones that extends when you flick your wrist?

yes
0:42 to 0:44 in the video he does that flick

 

[everybody in Portugal]

PSNI do carry guns, yes, and are licensed to do so off-duty as well. But they're pretty disciplined about using them thanks to the riots that inevitably happen when they do anything but the most basic law and order-keeping — both sides of the house still like to burn cars and throw bricks and Molotovs at the slightest provocation. Silverstream Ave is still a prod area but it's right next to a taig one, so I'd guess they didn't use bullets as no civilians were in danger at that point. Still doesn't explain why the male copper was tapping it so lightly with his baton though, when whacking it hard in the skull would have been the logical and more effective strategy.

IIRC the English polis shot a dog last week after it was 'running loose'; they're a lot more trigger happy and a LOT less tooled up on that side of the Irish Sea, the culture (police and general) is very different. Much more likely to just shoot it than the PSNI are, but also much less likely to be armed to begin with. (If I can find a source for this vague memory I'll edit it in in a bit.)

In summation, UK is weird and fucked in various ways and neither England nor NI really know how to deal with an out of control nanny properly.

ed here is the story I was thinking of. Police have referred themselves to the watchdog (lol, punny) regarding this as nobody locally thinks running and shooting wildly at a dog in a crowded urban area is a particularly good idea
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