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[IdiotPlusPlus]

I love that they can't grasp that the original tweet complains there is a van both in the cycle lane AND a car lane, def the same attitude that the old "World ending Women most effected" meme used to make fun of xD

 

[Yamamura]

The Redditard who wrote this doesn't even realize that he's right, just not in the way he thinks he does. A parking lane being removed for a bike lane is a "glaring problem with the infrastructure".

Unsurprisingly, until around 2012-2013 (Google Maps link) it was indeed a lane for parking/delivery. Infrastructure problem indeed.

The irony is if you try to testify to remove the bike lane, the people you're going to go up against are mostly rich lawyers and yuppies who larp as the working class, but don't actually give a shit if a possible solution actually exists for making deliveries. It really is a sort of "let them eat cake" mentality.

The only people I've ever seen use the bike lane are these types of young professionals who are able to ride a bike to work as a novelty or retired boomers that ride for fun and have no where important to be, but they act as if the bike lane is some sort of crucial infrastructure, despite actual people who have to get to work never using it.

Delivery vans bad:

It's really this sort of mentality that pisses me off the most. You're acting like you're never ordered anything to be delivered before? As if the place that employs you (assuming this person isn't also on benefits) doesn't rely on receiving deliveries? What the fuck do you expect to happen, that they can choose to teleport packages where they need to go? Just because it's private or commercial doesn't mean it's not essential. Grocery stores are private does that mean you don't need to eat?

 

[teriyakiburns]

I think I found the next urbanist that's being astroturfed. His name is Phil Edwards, and he was a former writer at Vox that left the company due to how much of a disaster that company is, so he wants to cash in on the urbanism trend.

Seeing that video on my feed really pissed me off. He's done some great vids, really interesting topics that were a bit outside the sort of thing these vlogtubers tend to cover, so seeing him jump on the urbanism train even for a moment is a bit disappointing. Oh well. I suppose disappointment is inevitable.

 

[James done did it]

the intercity light rail extension that has been under construction for the past 4 years is finally finished and i caught a glimpse of it the other day driving home from work. the train is about the size of 2 busses and I 'raced' it along its entire route and won in moderate traffic. I was going about 40-50 on a 60mph road lol. the bus in the HOV lane was going even faster. They paid billions of dollars for this. They could have put a bus only lane in the median or some shit for like 5% of the cost and it would have been faster and higher capacity.

Rail autism has cost the american taxpayer trillions. Intercity light rail makes literally ZERO sense.

 

[reptile baht spaniard rid]

It can barely make sense in some situations - which are pretty rare, like a single rail line is available in a direct route where a freeway can’t go.

But the real reason is everyone knows busses suck triple ass and will never come.

 

[Xarpho's Return]

It's really this sort of mentality that pisses me off the most. You're acting like you're never ordered anything to be delivered before? As if the place that employs you (assuming this person isn't also on benefits) doesn't rely on receiving deliveries? What the fuck do you expect to happen, that they can choose to teleport packages where they need to go? Just because it's private or commercial doesn't mean it's not essential. Grocery stores are private does that mean you don't need to eat?

Simple--scrap all deliveries to bughives that cannot be done on a bicycle.

 

[Lady Bizness]

What the fuck do you expect to happen, that they can choose to teleport packages where they need to go?

They probably play some of those phone idle games where they're running a farm or city and things just get whisked away or appear out of nothing.

 

[talk talk talk]

Farmville and its consequences have been a disaster for the human race.

 

[Yamamura]

Simple--scrap all deliveries to bughives that cannot be done on a bicycle.

If there's one thing I've ever learned from the world is the law of unintended consequence. When introducing a rule, seldom will it ever actually bring the desired effect. Want less cobras roaming around by introducing a bounty on bringing in dead cobras. Congrats you now have people farming and breeding more cobras to bring in. Want to increase the regulation on the minimum fuel economy of small cars? Congrats now manufacturers are less motivated to invest into improving small cars and will later cut them off entirely.

Want to prevent delivery vans from being in the bike lane? Simple change the definition of what a "bike" is and now you have these things blocking the entire bike lane that you can't go around.

I will laugh when these things are causing a traffic jam in the bike lane because these things legally can be in the bike lane 100% of the time, because that's what it's classified as.

 

[reptile baht spaniard rid]

Doggam the crash capabilities of that piece of shit have got to be sooooo gooooood.

Stupid faggots trying to ban the car and doomed to reinvent it badly. Laughs in F350.

 

[quaawaa]

Some updates from Jason's Twitter:

They're making a video game:

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Reddit source, archive
Steam source, archive

Jason wants an advance copy:

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The developer (who is one of Jason's fans) replied:

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And Jason replied to him:

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Jason is very mad that people don't bother to adjust Netherlands worst-in-class bike deaths by the age and number of cyclists despite refusing to do the same for American car deaths:

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E-bikes aren't to blame for increased deaths, old people riding e-bikes are:

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"Anti-urbanists" are getting to him:

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Jason had blocked a large urbanist mastodon server because he can't handle the slightest bit of criticism:

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But drivers do subsidize public transit and bike lanes...

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[Xarpho's Return]

But drivers do subsidize public transit and bike lanes...

Do you think he actually knows that and being an ass about it, or is he a massive retard who believes any bullshit that is fed to him?

 

[Bonesjones]

Do you think he actually knows that and being an ass about it, or is he a massive retard who believes any bullshit that is fed to him?

Of course he knows, it's just an ideological argument to ignore the facts because most people will never take the time to find out. You see it used constantly. If you post something proving him wrong he will just say something about it being out of context or misleading.

 

[Bucephalus]

And if someone tries to "debunk" Dutch cycling infrastructure design by looking only at "cycling deaths per capita" I just immediately block them.

Because you don't have a rebuttal?

That's just moronic when over 80% of people cycle here, while less than 1% of people cycle in many other countries.

That's the point of the "per capita," numbnuts. It's a mean value, an average. It's not measuring gross deaths.

 

[Xarpho's Return]

This is urbanism related I guess, an article from Wired (the one who ran the original induced demand article and declared that new lanes were pointless). "SimCity Isn’t a Model of Reality. It’s a Libertarian Toy Land". (link, archive).

There's a few things I have to say about the article and how it relates to urbanism, SimCity, and others.

Interesting that it talks about cities followed Forrester's ideas without questioning methods or if they would actually work in reality, yet this is the same people who will nod along to Strong Towns et. al.
Author makes an unfounded accusation that when Concord meant a town's "character" they meant "race". Guess what jackass, even in a 100% white area if you demolish every house for an apartment complex you change the character of the neighborhood.
At least Will Wright admitted SimCity (well, the ORIGINAL 1989 SimCity) was a caricature.
SimHealth wasn't a poor seller strictly for subject matter, according to SimCity 2000: Power, Politics, and Planning it was only ever available through mail order and college bookstores. Meanwhile SimRefinery was never released at all. Until four years ago all we had a blurry screenshot.
How can you look at Magnasanti (the city described) and have it be described as "libertarian"? It wasn't built to be a political statement, and no self-described libertarian would have an ultra-planned megalopolis. "Lolberts" don't need any slandering, they do that themselves.

In the end the article fails because it takes a point—that SimCity runs on a code that is based on some already flawed assumptions—and rather than attack urbanists and their desire for control over things that aren't true, or their ideas for "efficiency" when people are very different from numbers, it cries about libertarianism.

 

[FILTH Tourist]

This is urbanism related I guess, an article from Wired (the one who ran the original induced demand article and declared that new lanes were pointless). "SimCity Isn’t a Model of Reality. It’s a Libertarian Toy Land". (link, archive).

Many players credit the game with giving them a deeper understanding of how cities function and how effective governance ought to work.

Games abstract/get wrong a lot of things, but they can inspire people into persuing careers or at least get them thinking about something new. City Skylines for example has awful traffic simulation, but you get the very basics of road hierarchy. SimCity 2000 is the same thing, it doesn't get into the niddy griddy of taxes, but you get the gist that ultra tax raping the rich is counter intuitive to population/financial growth because they don't want to live there and a more modest and balanced tax rate might be better for the community.

 

[T O X I C S L U D G E]

They hate walmart because they're niggercattle told to hate walmart even though Targay, Costco, and Traitor Hoe's are basically the same as walmart on slightly different scales and sizes, but those are deemed Reddit™ Approved© Capitalism® for unknown reasons.

I suspect it's literally the parking lot.

Good, light, angels, happiness:
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Bad, evil, devil, satan:
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Of course, nobody would ever mention that the bad one is quite walkable for the people who live nearby (and they might even do it, though I notice that half of them are cucked by a RAILROAD TRACK but trains are never bad and the other developments have niggerwalls which means you'd have to walk around, lame. Also it's Arizona which is the asshole of satan.)

And of course all of Reddit loves Costco and they're almost never walkable because they're out in the ass end of suburbs by design.

All hail supreme leader Hendrik Meijer

 

[JJLiautaud]

It wasn't built to be a political statement, and no self-described libertarian would have an ultra-planned megalopolis. "Lolberts" don't need any slandering, they do that themselves.

Remember journos are the same retards who say shit like fascistic individualism. TJD.

 

[LaxerBRO]

Meanwhile SimRefinery was never released at all.

Shit, never knew Maxis made a refinery simulation.

That makes me want to try something:

The third man, Mohammet, was already at his own work as Rasul took his station at the top of the staircase. Working in the back of the room, he switched the room systems-control mode from computer-automatic to emergency-manual, bypassing all of the automated safety systems.

A methodical man, Ibrahim had planned and memorized every detail of his task over a period of months, but still he had a checklist in his pocket. He unfolded it now and set it next to his hand on the master supervisory control board.

First the gasoline. He closed sixteen control valves—the nearest of them three kilometers away—and opened ten, which rerouted eighty million liters of gasoline to gush out from a bank of truck-loading valves. The gasoline did not ignite at once. The three had left no pyrotechnic devices to explode this first of many disasters. Tolkaze reasoned that if he were truly doing the work of Allah, then his God would surely provide.

And so He did. A small truck driving through the loading yard took a turn too fast, skidded on the splashing fuel, and slid broadside into a utility pole. It only took one spark . . . and already more fuel was spilling out into the train yards.

With the master pipeline switches, Tolkaze had a special plan. He rapidly typed in a computer command, thanking Allah that Rasul was so skillful and had not damaged anything important with his rifle. The main pipeline from the nearby production field was two meters across, with many branchlines running to all of the production wells. The oil traveling in those pipes had its own mass and its own momentum supplied by pumping stations in the fields. Ibrahim’s commands rapidly opened and closed valves. The pipeline ruptured in a dozen places, and the computer commands left the pumps on. The escaping light crude flowed across the production field, where only one more spark was needed to spread a holocaust before the winter wind, and another break occurred where the oil and gas pipelines crossed together over the river Ob’.

 

[Yamamura]

And Jason replied to him:

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I actually like OpenTTD, it's a fun game. I don't think Master Hellish is actually supportive of urbanism as far as I know. He's just an autist who really really likes the game and will play with anyone who is willing to.

OpenTTD has a few things I'd like to point out. You can also build roads as well as trains and as the cities grow they have urban sprawl and GASP suburbs. Also the people in the cities in the game don't like you building railroad tracks next to their houses, shocker. Also hypothetically if you really wanted to you could build things like highways and airports.