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We have to win every time.

They only have to win once.

Once whoever replaces the GOP realizes how they manage that, things will change. Not a moment before.
And therein lies the difference between the dems and the GOP.
Not quite once, thankfully. There does appear to be a critical mass that the left requires, or anyone would really, to truly subvert things. Namely, controlling two of the three branches of government. The other two can gang up on the one, for good or bad in either stalling out an agenda or forcing one through. It is what is stopping them going full on tyrant right now as they do not hold unanimous control of Congress and the Republicans control SCOTUS. Though, sadly, the same can be said for the opposite side so its impossible to fully stall them out as well.
 
No one can serve as Vice President who is ineligible to serve as President
A two term eight year president is not ineligible to serve. Ineligible to be elected. You can get a VP who wasn't elected too. Or get the guy elected to the House, if you got a majority make him Speaker. President and VP resign. Then he'd have two years to serve. It would never happen but it'd all be legal
 
A two term eight year president is not ineligible to serve. Ineligible to be elected. You can get a VP who wasn't elected too. Or get the guy elected to the House, if you got a majority make him Speaker. President and VP resign. Then he'd have two years to serve. It would never happen but it'd all be legal
The whole thing would end up in the Supreme Court
I doubt Big Mike will run because it'd be too much of a meme. "Vote for me because my Husband was a good President." When he wasn't, but that's largely been ignored. The Obama legacy relies on that still being ignored. Why would they bother? If there ever was good intentions with Obama running, they clearly gave up on them and just served the machine very easily and took the pay day. Why go back?
Thing is that, as we've seen with Hillary, these cults of personality don't transfer. Bill Clinton was thought of as being a good President. Doesn't mean the people wanted Hillary. Barack was idolised by the Democrat base but that doesn't mean all that adulation will transfer to Michelle

You can even see it with Trump. Republicans love Donald Trump, but Republicans and Democrats in equal measure despise Ivanka
 
We have to win every time.

They only have to win once.

Once whoever replaces the GOP realizes how they manage that, things will change. Not a moment before.
If anything has been proved

It is that no party is immune from sheer incompetence and delusions

Donald Trump, who about 3/5 of the country simply doesn't like personally, is leading in the election campaign. Opposition to the Democratic Party has not withered

We rage at the incompetencies and stupidities of these people "who only have to win once," but (some of us) also believe in their Machiavellian skill, their competence at endlessly gripping political power. They're feeling plenty of heat right now, most of us are going to be around another 40-50 years. We're going to see a lot of shit, just like everyone else ever has
 
We have to win every time.

They only have to win once.

Once whoever replaces the GOP realizes how they manage that, things will change. Not a moment before.
It's really weird how much US politics resembles Shin Megami Tensei sometimes, doesn't it?

The best candidate is even a shiny golden god frequently presented as the worst option.
 
The whole thing would end up in the Supreme Court

Thing is that, as we've seen with Hillary, these cults of personality don't transfer. Bill Clinton was thought of as being a good President. Doesn't mean the people wanted Hillary. Barack was idolised by the Democrat base but that doesn't mean all that adulation will transfer to Michelle

You can even see it with Trump. Republicans love Donald Trump, but Republicans and Democrats in equal measure despise Ivanka
And they spent decades trying to convince people Hillary was not a monster.
 
The whole thing would end up in the Supreme Court

Thing is that, as we've seen with Hillary, these cults of personality don't transfer. Bill Clinton was thought of as being a good President. Doesn't mean the people wanted Hillary. Barack was idolised by the Democrat base but that doesn't mean all that adulation will transfer to Michelle

You can even see it with Trump. Republicans love Donald Trump, but Republicans and Democrats in equal measure despise Ivanka
Michelle won't run for one really simple reason. She -really- hates white people. She well and truly despises white people. To her, having a job where she would be required to deal with them on a daily basis would be akin to a circle of Hell. So I don't care how many interest groups, politicians, media pundits, or anyone else tries to entice her in with clearly rigged numbers. Michelle herself is the one who will tell them to get fucked.
 
I just really like that Trump has seemingly learned how to shut up a bit. He has done some interviews and stuff but he's been very chill about Biden's brain breaking instead of doing his typical thing of calling him a retard on camera in a way that can be spun. I think the court cases really helped with that because he figured out there were times it's best to just let your enemys own deeds and words sink them.

I hope Barron has also been reading up some Sun Tzu.
 
I just really like that Trump has seemingly learned how to shut up a bit. He has done some interviews and stuff but he's been very chill about Biden's brain breaking instead of doing his typical thing of calling him a retard on camera in a way that can be spun. I think the court cases really helped with that because he figured out there were times it's best to just let your enemys own deeds and words sink them.

I hope Barron has also been reading up some Sun Tzu.
I mean, talking past the sale is basic discernment for a guy like him.
 
Anecdote. On my way to a job interview I drove through a relatively liberal part of town. The houses I swear I saw Biden signs at before now had a sign saying "fuck em both 2024". I personally dislike public profanity but I think democrat turnout is gonna be neutered, nobody seems to like Chomo Joe
They will still try to fraud him in, if he is the candidate. Well know more soon but for now it's best to assume Biden will be the candidate for the dems. They will try massive amounts of fraud in states like Arizona and Wisconsin (everywhere else too) because they are desperate and there are states where they'll be able to succeed. Trump needs to keep doing what he is doing and fight smarter not harder, let Biden keep sinking himself while continuing to draw the clear-as-day difference by speaking coherently and remaining the Calm Old Man contrasted to the Angry Dementia Man. Trump should absolutely keep needling here and there by reminding people that 2016-feb 2020 were some pretty great years compared to Biden's term, and he should keep driving the point home that Biden seems to "sadly" be deteriorating and wouldn't be able to perform the duties required past 8 PM or probably at all beyond 2026. He should keep his rallies and friendly appearances high energy. But he should keep up this tactic of recognizing when to strike and when to let the dementia patient tap himself out.
 
Trump gave us:

Open borders
Tax cuts for the rich
Chinese virus made in a lab
Vaccines that are more harmful than effective
Biggest job losses since great depression
Inflation from free stimulus checks
Deals with Putin and Iran to invade countries after he left

Biden gave us:

Build Back Better
Thousands of new jobs each month
Elimination of Roe v. Wade
Effective handling of Ukraine and Israel wars
Razorwire on the Texas border
Student loan forgiveness
Moving immigrants from red states to blue cities
Chevron getting knocked down
You do realize your defending a senile possibly pervy individual right?
 

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At this current point in time, it seems that it is more likely than not that, well...chomo joe remains the nominee, and therefore will drag the dems down with him

Laser.Guided.Karma.
Not surprising in the least. The biggest problem with the replace faction is that there is literally nobody compelling to replace him with that they can all agree on.
 
The whole thing would end up in the Supreme Court

Thing is that, as we've seen with Hillary, these cults of personality don't transfer. Bill Clinton was thought of as being a good President. Doesn't mean the people wanted Hillary. Barack was idolised by the Democrat base but that doesn't mean all that adulation will transfer to Michelle

You can even see it with Trump. Republicans love Donald Trump, but Republicans and Democrats in equal measure despise Ivanka
100% on point. That said, I think Michelle would get more votes than Biden. I don't think it would fix the fact that people have soured on the Democratic party in general these past 4 years, but it would help. Still wouldn't beat Trump. Mike would only have 4 months, and most older voters choose who they recognize, Trump.
 
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