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Alyssa Mercante made a clickbait article on Kotaku about the fans attacking Disney Star Wars. She claims that if we don't like The Acolyte, then we're not fans.
Star Wars Griefing Thread (SPOILERS) - Safety off
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verissimus
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What's wrong with your face!
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The decay of Star Wars could be reversible -- just pull a Di$ney and declare Di$ney SW "non-canon", then maybe bring backthe EU"Legends" into "canon", and go from there?
They can't. Mainstream fandom revolved around Luke, Leia, and Han, all of whom they ruined and killed off. The ST needed to be a handoff to new, compelling characters, but they all sucked. There's no do-over.
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If there's anything I've learned about Disney after all this time, their red line is when they can't control the narrative anymore. They will do anything if it means protecting the bottom line from bad word of mouth.
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Either a logic fail or "gaslighting" attempt. One can like pre-Di$ney SW, yet not post.
Then to me, SW can be thought of as ending in 2012 (when Di$ney got the © and ™ to SW).
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How is the witches chimping out on the Jedi making the Jedi evil? This is some fentanyl Floyd logic.
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This is your brain on woke.
I'd love to be on those C-Suit meetings.
"For our new Star Wars lineup, we want to reflect on the effects of patriarchal, capitalist, white culture on POC folks of color. We will send a message on BLM and the repressive effect of police"
"Yeah, uh, I was thinking perhaps we should introduce some 'defund the jedi' proposals. You know, like, the jedi had grown to be this militarized police force of the republic that regularly brutalizes underprivileged star systems"
"That's acually a brilliant idea, Mike. Please, reach out to me this afternoon to develop these outlines into doables"
"Now, I've written this scheme to illustrate the effects of white privilege in Naboo"
"Should we mention something about queer gungans?"
"This is a great idea, Mike, but no gay gungans. Gay male is too white coded. Let's focus on the experiences of transness in Oto Gungah"
"Perhaps Rugor Nass represents an old guard, conservative, transphobic elite?"
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"Please, George, come to see me after the meeting"
"Sorry to interrupt, but I think Greg just overdosed on cocaine again"
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I'd say the best way to handle it is dodge the issue, move the setting a thousand years or few forward, reference either continuity as the old legends which are uncertain because they are old legendsThe decay of Star Wars could be reversible -- just pull a Di$ney and declare Di$ney SW "non-canon", then maybe bring backthe EU"Legends" into "canon", and go from there?
major calamity hit the galaxy halfway back, things are sorta rebuilt but that lets you reshuffle the deck however and not have to care
the cows are out of the barn for "good sequel movies"
letting the field go fallow for a few years and starting back over is probably the only way to really salvage the brand
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whatever, something off-screen and long ago so you can put a lot of distance between the existing movies and this, and not have to increase the tech as seen from PT->OT->ST
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That is a hurtful comment. imo it was pretty shit. 30 seconds of BAESTMODE Vader killing white men isn't saving the rest of that boring junk. The only decent part was when everybody died, although it happened about two and a half hours too late, I still have to admit it was very funny and cathartic.
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The thing I like most is that it literally is all their fault.
If they did not mind rape the padawan? He'd have not wanted to go there again in the first place, meaning their cult's suicide via possession wouldn't happen.
If the Zabrak mother didn't suggest to evil twin to kill the good twin? Then the compound wouldn't have burned down and lead to Squid Games being aggresssive to get in.
If the witches didn't start nocking arrows to kill Squid Games and Tommen, which is a far more aggressive move than unholstering a lightsaber? It wouldn't have escalated.
If black witch didn't go shadow monster and seemingly start to kill evil twin, and just simply said that she's handing good twin over like she claimed she agreed with? Then she'd be alive.
If the witches did not try to possess the Wookie? They'd not have died via dumb ritual "power of many" bullshit.
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Many twitter users are convincing me that they'd look at the Aztecs cutting children open to sacrifice them to their God and still say "We have to respect their culture, guys. We can't just assume they're evil."
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Nah, about that the common view is that the whole sacrifice thing was spanish propaganda and never happened.
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I've never understood the angst over "canon." These characters aren't real. The stories are just some crap somebody made up. I just see the OT as three good movies, the PT as three bad movies, and the ST as three movies that weren't worth watching. Honestly, I don't even see the PT as what "really" happened. The aesthetic and thematic disconnects from the OT were so jarring that they just never were anything more than big-budget B movies to me.
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Well of course, I'm not a fan at all of what disney has done to Star Wars.
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see this is my big thing about the sequels is they worked on nobody especially kids. I was a kid for the prequels, I loved em. I had tons of prequel shit from the video games, to toys, I had a fuckin jar jar binks inflatable chair.
I remember my Dad and Uncle arguing about them at thanksgiving as a kid. My pop loved em, my Uncle thought they were shit. My pop had my brother (who was born when he was 14 years old) and me who was born when he was 20 to take to them. so I assume a lot of his enjoyment probably came from the fact his 10 year old ate it up, and his toddler wanted to be Darth Maul and used to beat the shit out of the dog with sticks pretending he was. my uncle, at the time of phantom menace was like 20 years old and single and had no-one else to by proxy like them for he saw them for what they were. shit. shit with cool ideas sure, but as movies? they suck.
I have talked to my uncle about the sequels. when TFA came out he was all in and I was like dude you're a retard that movie was fucking gay as shit. but he had a 6 year old. he probably had what dad did with Phantom Menace and my brother and I. you can look past all the flaws because you're sharing something with your kid who has seen nothing like it and loves it. however by the last jedi, there isn't anything for a kid to care about. space horses maybe. that is it. there were no major tie in games, no weird characters who a kid would like, hell no character who was even a badass for a kid to like like I had with Maul when I was 4/5. nothing. nothing at all.
that was the saddest part for me of the sequels was my dad watched 10 minutes of TFA and just turned it off and didn't care but my uncle was into it and thought he had something to share with his kids. I knew that first one was horrible and we weren't going anywhere but for one fuckin' moment that guy thought he could have a generational thing, and my lil cousins are teenagers now and they don't care about star wars. they don't even like it. at all, and it's because their generations shot at it totally missed the mark on making any impact on them. whereas mine 20 years ago we fucking LOVED it. Revenge of the Sith was the biggest thing to ever happen in my life when I was 10 and it was for every kid at school's too. that entire year was my whole class just counting down the days until summer because STAR WARS was coming back and going to show Vader's origin. kids my cousins age had dick. captain phasma? who gives a shit. kylo ren? fuck off.
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For some reason, I think this was intentional.
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The Thread yanked back harder on the Witches for imposing their nonsense on it. Which is far more intrusive than the Jedi's view of the Force. They forced a Vergence instead of a natural* one, which made the conception not immaculate. They then relocate themselves to this specific planet so that they can use the moons' convergence to enhance their children's power.** And then they mind control their enemies, but they take more damage than their thralls. Kelnacca and Torbin lived afterwards. Only semi-logical conclusion I can draw is that their hubris and abuse of power angered the Thread, so it rigged their destiny to death.
*And I don't believe Shmi at all. She doesn't want to admit that her services as a slave require some very sordid acts. Tatooine's controlled by the Hutts, after all. But for the purposes of TPM, she was a virgin.
**Which turned out mediocre results. Mae has about as much control of the Thread as a typical Knight.
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what do you mean? I am not following. you think they purposefully didn't make shit that appealed to kids? sorry if I am a retard and you're being clear but I don't get what your point is