Trump Derangement Syndrome - Orange man bad. Read the OP! (ᴛʜɪs ᴛʜʀᴇᴀᴅ ɪs ʟɪᴋᴇ ᴋɪᴡɪ ғᴀʀᴍs ʀᴇᴠɪᴇᴡs ɴᴏᴡ) 🗿🗿🗿🗿

I don't know how this conversation started, but Trump called out Jonathan Leibowitz for lying about his heritage by changing his name to Jon Stewart. Current Year Man got really offended and wanted to take him down a notch. He discovered Trump's grandfather anglicized their family name from Drumpf to Trump. Since Current Year Man is either intellectually dishonest or not very smart, he thought this was equivalent to Leibowitz > Stewart (it's not). Because Drumpf sounds kind of dumb he decided to mock his heritage by running a popular shitlib campaign called "Make Donald Drumpf Again."

I wonder how much Current Year Man humanized Trump. Literally making fun of a man because his grandfather wanted to make their name better fit an English heavy society is beyond petty. It was during this era when all the truly delusional shitlib friends on my Facebook started sharing that video that I realized how fucked the media's reporting of this campaign was going to be. No criticism of his policies (well, beyond the wall), just name calling.


It's just a literal translation of the name, just as thousands of Bäckers became Bakers, Müllers became Millers, Drumpf/Trumpf became Trump. It hasn't been a problem for anybody else...
 
I've made a little salt list of notable lolcows / famous / internet famous people that were either covered in this thread or that I just personally know about. It's by no means comprehensive, but I thought it might be useful. Lemme know if I missed anyone obvious.

MIFFED
Chip Cheezum (Lets Player)
Slowbeef (Lets Player)
Total Biscuit (Lets Player) [Was Nuclear]

ANNOYED
Jim Sterling (Youtuber)

SALTY
kc green (Artist)
Stephen Colbert (Celebrity)

LITERALLY SHAKING
Alison Rapp (Lolcow)
Andrew Dobson (Artist/Lolcow)
General Ironicus (Lets Player)
John Oliver (Celebrity)
Voidburger (Lets Player)

NUCLEAR
Bob Chipman (Youtuber)
Brianna Wu (Journalist...?)
Colby Claus (Lolcow)
Christian Weston Chandler (Lolcow)
"El Primero" (Lolcow)
Joss Whedon (Celebrity)
Wil Wheaton (Celebrity)
Zoe Quinn (Lolcow)

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NO COMMENT
Shmorky (Artist/Lolcow)

NOT SALTY
DarkSydePhil (Lets Player/Lolcow)

"TRAITORS"
Bernie Sanders (Politician)
JonTron (Youtuber)
Oprah Winfrey (Celebrity)
At first I was surprised about the discrepancy between Chip and Ironicus, then I remembered Ironicus annoyed me enough to make me unfollow him and Chip didn't.
 
Okay, I may have legitimately lost friends for trying to reassure them - sensitively - that things will not be so bad. No MAGA-ing, didn't say anything good about Trump.

This is what I get for trying to be a decent person. And a troll forum is the only place where I can share this without being accused of hating da gays.
 
Okay, I may have legitimately lost friends for trying to reassure them - sensitively - that things will not be so bad. No MAGA-ing, didn't say anything good about Trump.

This is what I get for trying to be a decent person. And a troll forum is the only place where I can share this without being accused of hating da gays.

Right now (and for the last 4 years) the left has been extremely toxic. They eat their own, compete over purity and cry whenever they're exposed and try to act like the truth is relative. Say what you will about the kooky ass extreme right, but they can at least shut off politics for a minute and have a cordial conversation if they need to
 
Okay, I may have legitimately lost friends for trying to reassure them - sensitively - that things will not be so bad. No MAGA-ing, didn't say anything good about Trump.

This is what I get for trying to be a decent person. And a troll forum is the only place where I can share this without being accused of hating da gays.

Except now we're going to dox and ostracize you now for having faggots for friends in the first place.
 
Okay, I may have legitimately lost friends for trying to reassure them - sensitively - that things will not be so bad. No MAGA-ing, didn't say anything good about Trump.

This is what I get for trying to be a decent person. And a troll forum is the only place where I can share this without being accused of hating da gays.

It's pretty disheartening when a forum dedicated to analyzing :autism: shenanigans is a bastion of sanity.

... relatively speaking, I mean.
 
Okay, I may have legitimately lost friends for trying to reassure them - sensitively - that things will not be so bad. No MAGA-ing, didn't say anything good about Trump.

This is what I get for trying to be a decent person. And a troll forum is the only place where I can share this without being accused of hating da gays.

Good for you, now you can get better friends
 
Okay, I may have legitimately lost friends for trying to reassure them - sensitively - that things will not be so bad. No MAGA-ing, didn't say anything good about Trump.

This is what I get for trying to be a decent person. And a troll forum is the only place where I can share this without being accused of hating da gays.

If they're dumb enough to listen to mainstream media and ditch you as a friend, they weren't much fucking friends to begin with. I have friends across the political spectrum because 98% of shit we talk about isn't politics.

Right now (and for the last 4 years) the left has been extremely toxic. They eat their own, compete over purity and cry whenever they're exposed and try to act like the truth is relative. Say what you will about the kooky ass extreme right, but they can at least shut off politics for a minute and have a cordial conversation if they need to

What's increasingly stupid about this situation is the right, and even the fricken alt-right are becoming the only spaces where you can go in, disagree and argue your case without being endlessly yelled down for having a "problematic" position.

But yes, we've had people blarting on about "Post-truth" politics and the only tosspots apparently practising it are the left whingers.
 
The Emilie Autumn salt is still flowing on my Facebook feed (I really should unfollow her now that I'm no longer a 3edgy5me 14 year old...).
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And the young children's names? Albert Einstein.
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"My historically inaccurate book about edgy self inserts in Victorian asylums will change the election, you guise!"
 
Right now (and for the last 4 years) the left has been extremely toxic. They eat their own, compete over purity and cry whenever they're exposed and try to act like the truth is relative. Say what you will about the kooky ass extreme right, but they can at least shut off politics for a minute and have a cordial conversation if they need to

The main tactic is to change meanings of words so that, by definition, they are right (and you are wrong/evil), ex., racism can only be perpetuated by "those in power/position of privilege" against "the oppressed", so they are in the clear to make ridiculous statements about white people.


It's pretty disheartening when a forum dedicated to analyzing :autism: shenanigans is a bastion of sanity.

... relatively speaking, I mean.

I see plenty of ad hom and other fallacies used as arguments here, but it's a troll forum so I can't tell who's serious about it.

And yet, still saner than damn near everywhere else.

Good for you, now you can get better friends

I try to empathize. If you genuinely believe that the president-elect is a racist/sexist/xenophobe/latest buzzword, who you see as the figurehead of a movement that you hate to your very core, I can understand why you would go bat-fucking-shit at everyone who is calm or neutral. On a personal level, you likely think that I'm invalidating you yourself. It's not rational, but emotional people are not rational.

So I tried to address the root fear: that the US will go to hell in a handbasket. It's not, don't worry, he's all bark and no bite just like so many other presidents. I was hoping that would suffice, but then I realized something: they're not only scared of Armageddon, but on principle, they do not want a president who seems to represent everything they hate.

In other words, Trump could turn out to govern exactly the same way as Obama, and he'd still be hated by the progressive left crowd for being a big ciswhitehet meanie. This is the source of pretty much all partisan bs.
 
The main tactic is to change meanings of words so that, by definition, they are right (and you are wrong/evil), ex., racism can only be perpetuated by "those in power/position of privilege" against "the oppressed", so they are in the clear to make ridiculous statements about white people.

There's a reason so many know of the story about the boy who cried wolf:

Gay people are now homophobic for supporting Trump.
Blacks, latinos, Muslims, and Jews are now racist for not voting for Hillary.

After a while, you just get numb and decide they're full of shit.
 
Okay, I may have legitimately lost friends for trying to reassure them - sensitively - that things will not be so bad. No MAGA-ing, didn't say anything good about Trump.

This is what I get for trying to be a decent person. And a troll forum is the only place where I can share this without being accused of hating da gays.

Forget them. If they feel good being paranoid every minute about how the orange gestapo will come any day now knocking their doors and taking them up vans, it's their loss, not yours.

Right now (and for the last 4 years) the left has been extremely toxic. They eat their own, compete over purity and cry whenever they're exposed and try to act like the truth is relative. Say what you will about the kooky ass extreme right, but they can at least shut off politics for a minute and have a cordial conversation if they need to

And the radleft became mainstream just around the rise of social media and Obama's second election...Connection?
 
And the radleft became mainstream just around the rise of social media and Obama's second election...Connection?

Eh, honestly I don't think this one is on the President. The issue is that "big boy" journalism was a collection of boring and unpleasant truths and these kids who grew up on the teet of the Daily Show and Colbert decided that the real journalism was weird twitter and tumblr tranny blogs. So to legitimize themselves they decided to start shouting down anyone that disagreed with those positions as a Fox News watching white supremacist or a gay hating Christian bigot. By treating the other side with massive quantities of disrespect and acting like their over weight, jobless, blue haired buddies were now the Cool kids Table, they just kept fighting one another for chairs at said table. Go back 3 years, 2 years and 1 year ago on twitter and look for the Comedian sweetheart de jour and you'll see it's always changing because the last guy/gal said something against the group think and was ostracized. Then that one either leaves twitter or becomes a super safe-space 'mo about everything to try and win their way back as an ally or by attacking everyone else who might have once thought "That white guy seems nice". First it was Delaney, after him it was Colbert, then it was Patton Oswalt, then Louis CK, then Chris Rock. These people literally cannot help themselves when it comes to attacking each other, they go from one moment of fawning over someone to the next seeing a bit of "impurity" and attacking them en masse until they can take their spot on the ladder. It's literally high school mentality social climbing that grows and nurtures narcissism and self loathing like mushrooms under a tarp.
 
Hey guys this is more of a question about this phenomena but, what exactly are Americans taught about WW2 and Hitler in general?

In high school basically very little. I had a history class where we watched Schindler's List while going over the causes and fallout pretty in depth for a Modern History course that did the Russian Revolution and the history of the state I went to school in a similar manner, but that's not going to be typical for most high schools. College; nothing unless you take a history class that includes it in college.

I've made a little salt list of notable lolcows / famous / internet famous people that were either covered in this thread or that I just personally know about. It's by no means comprehensive, but I thought it might be useful. Lemme know if I missed anyone obvious.

MIFFED
Chip Cheezum (Lets Player)
Slowbeef (Lets Player)
Total Biscuit (Lets Player) [Was Nuclear]

ANNOYED
Jim Sterling (Youtuber)

SALTY
kc green (Artist)
Stephen Colbert (Celebrity)

LITERALLY SHAKING
Alison Rapp (Lolcow)
Andrew Dobson (Artist/Lolcow)
General Ironicus (Lets Player)
John Oliver (Celebrity)
Voidburger (Lets Player)

NUCLEAR
Bob Chipman (Youtuber)
Brianna Wu (Journalist...?)
Colby Claus (Lolcow)
Christian Weston Chandler (Lolcow)
"El Primero" (Lolcow)
Joss Whedon (Celebrity)
Wil Wheaton (Celebrity)
Zoe Quinn (Lolcow)

-----

NO COMMENT
Shmorky (Artist/Lolcow)

NOT SALTY
DarkSydePhil (Lets Player/Lolcow)

"TRAITORS"
Bernie Sanders (Politician)
JonTron (Youtuber)
Oprah Winfrey (Celebrity)

Kentray Brown goes in the No Comment section.
Laci Green is either Literally Shaking or she was Nuclear and now has downgraded there?
Will Bresch goes in the Not Salty category.
Margret Pleiss goes in Salty, maybe goes in just Annoyed, but probably the former.
Oliver D. Smith is Not Salty.
ForeverKailyn goes in Not Salty but then was upgraded to Literally Shaking despite supporting the winner in a rare reversal of the current trends.
PixieTerri goes in No Comment I think?
Jon Holliday downgraded from Nuclear to Litteraly Shaking, I'd estimate.

That's all I can think of now, great post, very useful.
 
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