Opinion AshkeNazi Jews Are Not Khazars. Here’s The Proof.

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By Alexander Beider

In 2010 I was contacted by the chief editor of a volume called “Khazars: Myth and History,” put together by the Russian Academy of Sciences. She knew my books on Ashkenazic names, and was familiar with my ongoing study of the history of Yiddish, eventually published by Oxford University Press in 2015 as “Origins of Yiddish Dialects.” The editor wanted me to write a paper explaining the traces of Jews from medieval Khazaria that she was certain I had observed in my research.

I tried to politely decline her proposal. I told her that my paper on that topic would be too short for inclusion, because it would consist of just one sentence: “The corpus of personal names and surnames borne by Jews in Eastern Europe during the last six centuries, as well as the Yiddish language as a whole, do not contain any link to Khazaria.”

The editor insisted that if I was so convinced of this argument, I should write it up, for it would be of interest to both experts and lay readers. I finally agreed and wrote a paper.

The paper allowed me to formulate some methodological principles about working in what are sometimes called “soft sciences.” Historiography and linguistics are not formal disciplines like mathematics or logic; nothing can be proved definitively. This allows for the introduction of what we might call “junk science” — a category to which the Khazarian hypothesis belongs.

Nevertheless, the absolute lack of any fundamental proof for the theory has not stopped it from catching the imaginations of geneticists, linguists and hordes of lay folk alike.

Since the late 19th century, the so-called “Khazarian theory” has promoted the idea that a bulk of Ashkenazic Jews living in Eastern Europe descended from medieval Khazars, a semi-nomadic Turkic people who founded a powerful polyethnic state in the Caucasus and north to the Caspian, Azov and Black seas. The theory received a recent boost with the 1976 publication of “The Thirteenth Tribe,” a book by Arthur Koestler. Most recently, the Khazarian hypothesis has been promoted by authors like the Tel Aviv University professor of history Shlomo Sand and Tel Aviv University professor of linguistics Paul Wexler, as well the geneticist Eran Elhaik.

Despite this institutional backing, the theory is absolutely without evidence. As any historian will tell you, generations of Jews, like generations of any people, leave historical traces behind them. These traces come in multiple forms. For starters, people leave behind them historical documents and archaeological data. Predictably, archaeologic evidence about the widespread existence of Jews in Khazaria is almost nonexistent. While a series of independent sources does testify to the existence in the 10th century of Jews in the Kingdom of Khazaria, and while some of these sources also indicate that the ruling elite of Khazaria embraced Judaism, the Khazarian state was destroyed by Russians during the 960s. In other words, we can be confident that Judaism was not particularly widespread in that kingdom.

The next historical record of Jews — in a few cities that today belong to western Ukraine and western Belarus — shows up in the 14th century, when Jews are regularly referred to in numerous documents.

And yet, no direct historiographical data is available to connect the Jews who lived in Eastern Europe in the 14th century with their co-religionists from the 10th-century Khazaria.

One city in northwest Ukraine, Volodymyr-Volynskyi, does seem to have an uninterrupted presence of Jews from the 12th century. For example, in 1171 a Jewish merchant called Benjamin from that city lived in Cologne, and a Russian document refers to local Jews in 1288. Another Jewish source describes a circumcision ceremony in that city at the end of the 14th century. But it is only during the 16th century that references to Jews appear in large territories of Ukraine, Belarus and Lithuania, and even in the mid-16th century local communities were not populous. Historical documents also indicate that the earliest known Jewish communities in Poland were all situated in its westernmost part.

But history is not the only discipline to debunk the Khazarian hypothesis. Linguistics, too, and the study of Yiddish help us rule out a Khazarian ancestry for today’s Jews. Since the 17th century, Yiddish was the vernacular language of all Jews of Eastern Europe. All its main structural elements are German, though during the past few centuries, they also underwent a strong influence of Slavic languages.

This view is shared by all major Yiddish linguists — but not by Paul Wexler. Wexler believes there to be certain structural Turkic and Iranian elements “hidden” in Yiddish.

His methods rely heavily on fortuitous coincidences. And if you apply them more widely, you can link Yiddish to any language in the world.

It is simply bad linguistics. All words of Turkic origin came into Yiddish via the intermediary of East Slavic languages. It is the lexicon that keeps the actual traces of languages spoken by ancestors of Yiddish speakers. For that reason, in addition to Hebrew and Aramaic words, Yiddish has a small set of words whose roots come from Old French, Old Czech and Greek.

Some proponents of the Khazarian theory admit the German basis of Yiddish, but pretend that it was learned in Eastern Europe by “indigenous” Jewish masses from rabbis who came from the West and who introduced Yiddish as a “prestige” language.

But such a scenario can hardly be accepted. Only the cultural languages, Hebrew and Aramaic, were prestigious. During the 16th and 17th centuries, Yiddish brought from Central Europe became the first language for all Jews of Eastern Europe, a vernacular rather than a prestige object. Slavic idioms were used in that area by both the Christian majority and (during the previous period) by local Jews of heterogenous origins. Far from prestigious, Yiddish, understandable even for children, was used to teach students the prestigious language of Hebrew. We know that Yiddish wasn’t a prestige language, because girls, who were not taught languages in school, spoke it, too. The role of mothers in the transmission of the everyday language is by far more important than that of fathers.

In addition to history and linguistics, a third discipline can help us put to rest the Khazarian hypothesis: onomastics, or the study of proper names. Looking at names, both first names and surnames, gives us a sense of how a community saw itself, its language and its origins. And in the Jewish communities of Eastern Europe over the past six centuries, not a single Turkic name can be found in documents listing Jewish names. Even in documents from the 15th and 16th centuries dealing with Jews who lived in the territories of modern Ukraine and Belarus have no such names.

In the corpus of given names used by Jews of Eastern Europe during the last centuries, we find the same linguistic layers as in the lexicon of Yiddish. There are numerous Germanic and Hebrew names and some Aramaic names. There are also Greek names (Todres from Theodoros, Kalmen from Kalonymos), Old French names (Beyle, Bunem, Yentl), Old Czech names (Khlavne, Slave, Zlate), and Polish names (Basye, Tsile), and very few East Slavic names (Badane, Vikhne). There are no Turkic names.

Finally, we come to genetics. One does not have to be a professional geneticist to see the inadequacy of the methodologies used by Eran Elhaik, the champion of the “Khazarian theory” in that domain. In his paper of 2013, he pretends to show that modern Ashkenazic Jews are genetically closer to Khazars than to biblical Hebrews. The last mention of Khazars is almost one thousand years old, while biblical times are also far from us. For these reasons, Elhaik needed modern substitutes, so he substituted Armenians and Georgians for Khazars (because all of them are related in some way to Caucasus); and he substituted Israeli Palestinians for biblical Hebrews. In his paper of 2016, he analyses the links between various population groups by introducing another “bold” idea, that of finding a sort of “geographic average” point for various genetic features. Using it, he links the Ashkenazic Jews to the southern part of the Black sea, not far from the Turkish border but still in places inhabited by fish only.

Globally speaking, his general method is applicable only in a context of families that remained for centuries in the same places (for example, in Sardinia) but certainly not for population groups characterized by geographic mobility. As one of my friends pointed out, if we apply his idea to Barack Obama, the former US president will be classified as “Libyan” just because Libya lies in the middle of a line that unites Kenya and the UK.

Globally speaking, all arguments suggested by proponents of Khazarian theory are either highly speculative or simply wrong. They cannot be taken seriously.

This has never stopped the theory from being popular. But the ideological reasons for this are for another article.
 
So what exaxtly is the problem with Khazars not being kikes? seems like a win-win there.
Short Version? People who really, really don't like jews point to them as the true origin of the jewish people despite jewish khazar's status as converts at most and an elite religion in all likelihood. It allows them to go "HA! They're not actually from Israel!" when Jewish history goes back WAY further than 960.

They can't account for the fact that Khazar's disappear from the historical record after 960. This shit was all the rage on /pol/ about ten years ago and I'm surprised that it's resurfaced.
 
There's actually a much simpler explanation Judaism from the 9th century actually did seek converts and that's where you get the ******* German Jews from also there's a much better way of saying the Jews have no right to control Israel all of the people who would make up the 12 tribes of Israel converted to Christianity God broke his covenant with them.
And most of the people are ethnically Russian and German
 
Is it? Is it really? I wonder how long it will take you to contradict yourself?

So no trace exists?

So it does exist and you openly admit it. You just try to get ahead of the facts to put your own spin on it.
You are an absolute brainlet. Khazaria being real doesn't mean Ashkenazis are Khazars. Khazaria just happened to be led by a small Jewish elite that was absolutely destroyed when Khazaria fell. That elite was either massacred or lost their Jewish faith, which was common among the steppe elite since they were only superficially followers of whatever religion they proclaimed (hence why there are no Christian Turks nowadays despite endless references to Christian Turks in the Middle Ages). Ergo any Khazar migration into Europe (of which there is no evidence) would have nothing to do with Judaism because Khazaria was not a Jewish country.

You'd have to contradict endless historical documentation (as in primary sources), archaeology on Khazaria, and genetic studies on Ashkenazis to try and assert something as bunk as the Khazar hypothesis.
There's actually a much simpler explanation Judaism from the 9th century actually did seek converts and that's where you get the ******* German Jews from also there's a much better way of saying the Jews have no right to control Israel all of the people who would make up the 12 tribes of Israel converted to Christianity God broke his covenant with them.
And most of the people are ethnically Russian and German
To a degree this is true, since there are many, many edicts in Late Antiquity/Early Middle Ages forbidding Christians from converting to Judaism that culminated in a ban on Jews owning Christians as slaves. The latter was how Christians ended up converting. But they were never anything more than a minority of Jews, since genetic studies show that Ashkenazis have certain Jewish genes and descend from a few dozen Jewesses who lived in the medieval Rhineland. That's why Ashkenazis have such bad health--limited genepool and insular culture. They also were really hated in Poland and Russia too, because absentee landlords employed Jews as tax collectors who would shake down serfs. Jews mostly lived in towns anyway which were 50-60% Jewish, so they rarely came into extended contact with goyim serfs and such, so few opportunities to convert them.

As for how the ancestors of those Jews ended up there, it's pretty clear that they were drawn by the opportunity to be merchants in an area that at the time was a frontier of Europe and thus well away from places that really didn't like Jews. As it stopped being a frontier, the Jews moved further east. There is no evidence of a Khazar migration in the 10th century.
 
You are an absolute brainlet.
Anytime jews get mad you know you've stumbled on the truth.
Khazaria being real doesn't mean Ashkenazis are Khazars.
Khazarian jews existing then disappearing means they went somewhere. Funny how you keep insisting they simultaneously don't exist and only existed in small numbers. Which is it?
Khazaria just happened to be led by a small Jewish elite that was absolutely destroyed when Khazaria fell.
As we know jews just magically pop up out of the aether, for no reason at all. People are also known to convert to Judaism for no reason as well. It's not like there's ever been any advantage to doing so.
That elite was either massacred or lost their Jewish faith, which was common among the steppe elite since they were only superficially followers of whatever religion they proclaimed
So they died or stop being jews. This is like the holocaust all over again, they just keep disappearing into nothing! I see why jews are so paranoid all the time, any second they can *poof* into nothing.
Ergo any Khazar migration into Europe (of which there is no evidence) would have nothing to do with Judaism because Khazaria was not a Jewish country.
So a country ran by Jewish elite isn't a Jewish country because the only Jewish country is Palestine? Makes total sense, if you are doing retarded pilpul. Jews are known to assume new identities to hide their origin to escape "persecution" or you know the consequences of their actions.
You'd have to contradict endless historical documentation (as in primary sources), archaeology on Khazaria, and genetic studies on Ashkenazis to try and assert something as bunk as the Khazar hypothesis.
Yeah how could we not trust the science on genetic studies? I mean if I wanted to see my DNA profile I could just go to Susan Jewdeki's 23andme and find out.

Maybe you should just follow your messiah and convert to Islam. If you can't trust Zevi who can you trust?
 
Khazarian jews existing then disappearing means they went somewhere. Funny how you keep insisting they simultaneously don't exist and only existed in small numbers. Which is it?
No one ever said Khazarian Jews didn't exist. They were just never numerous because they were a tiny elite. Since the Khazar state was destroyed, that means the elite suffered most and the survivors were absorbed. Just like literally every other Turkic tribe that no longer exists, some of whom were Christians or even dead religions like Manichaeism. The Khazars were so destroyed there isn't even a group be they Turks or Jews using their name today, unlike some other destroyed medieval Turk tribes.

Of course, there is no evidence of a Khazar migration large enough to produce the proto-Ashkenazi community. There's no monks or court chroniclers in Hungary, Germany, or France writing about migratory Jewish Turks, which we'd expect them to given they noted when the Gypsies first showed up. There are no random Jewish relics in eastern or central Europe that are like the scant physical evidence of Khazar elite Judaism.
So they died or stop being jews. This is like the holocaust all over again, they just keep disappearing into nothing! I see why jews are so paranoid all the time, any second they can *poof* into nothing
Correct. That's what happened to Turk tribes like the Khazars who lost wars. The few survivors were absorbed by another tribe and adopted that tribe's religion. Just like why there are no Christian Turks.
So a country ran by Jewish elite isn't a Jewish country because the only Jewish country is Palestine? Makes total sense, if you are doing retarded pilpul. Jews are known to assume new identities to hide their origin to escape "persecution" or you know the consequences of their actions.
No, it's because Jews were a tiny minority who ran the country and were the ones who were killed when Khazaria fell. That's why there are no Jews in the former lands of Khazaria and the evidence of Jewish presence rapidly vanishes. It's why tribes dominated by the Khazars like the Hungarians were not Jews.
Yeah how could we not trust the science on genetic studies? I mean if I wanted to see my DNA profile I could just go to Susan Jewdeki's 23andme and find out.
23andme is hardly scientific. Look at an actual DNA study, but I doubt you will since you don't seem to have any clue how to measure their reliable. Once again, you're the quintessential brainlet.
 
No one ever said Khazarian Jews didn't exist.
You keep saying it. Just look at how you contradict yourself immediately:
They were just never numerous because they were a tiny elite.
So there weren't many and yet you talk mass migration, you really talk out of both sides of your mouth.
. Since the Khazar state was destroyed, that means the elite suffered most and the survivors were absorbed.
Hey look it's that Jewish thing you do where you confuse religion, culture, and ancestry to make the dumbest arguments available.
The Khazars were so destroyed there isn't even a group be they Turks or Jews using their name today, unlike some other destroyed medieval Turk tribes.
Almost like jews see themselves as jews above all else and just immigrate and pretend to be another people, helped by other jews along the way.
Of course, there is no evidence of a Khazar migration large enough to produce the proto-Ashkenazi community.
Why would there be a noticeable mass migration in a heavy trade area? They would just continue doing business elsewhere.
There's no monks or court chroniclers in Hungary, Germany, or France writing about migratory Jewish Turks, which we'd expect them to given they noted when the Gypsies first showed up. There are no random Jewish relics in eastern or central Europe that are like the scant physical evidence of Khazar elite Judaism.
You'll know Jewish migration by the trail of foreskin.
Correct. That's what happened to Turk tribes like the Khazars who lost wars. The few survivors were absorbed by another tribe and adopted that tribe's religion. Just like why there are no Christian Turks.
As we know historically jews never pretended to convert to another religion while working to subvert it from the inside.
No, it's because Jews were a tiny minority who ran the country and were the ones who were killed when Khazaria fell. That's why there are no Jews in the former lands of Khazaria and the evidence of Jewish presence rapidly vanishes. It's why tribes dominated by the Khazars like the Hungarians were not Jews.
Are you going to say the same thing rephrased some more or do you just like to type?
23andme is hardly scientific. Look at an actual DNA study, but I doubt you will since you don't seem to have any clue how to measure their reliable.
Yeah I should read a holocaust study next, totally honest and trustworthy as well.
Once again, you're the quintessential brainlet.
You choose to associate with a group of inbred pedophiles, I think your insults taste like candy.
 
Nevertheless, the absolute lack of any fundamental proof for the theory has not stopped it from catching the imaginations of geneticists, linguists and hordes of lay folk alike.
Pretty sure “geneticists” are exactly the sort of people who develop “fundamental proof”, not run on imagination. Linguists are a bit more arguable, though they at least try to develop evidence.

Anyway, the best part about this theory is that it was started by the Jews themselves, and the whole reason it's hated by Jews today is because 200 years ago they were happily arguing against the idea that the Jews are some monolithic entity that all hail from the Levant. Mostly because every country in the world used that as a legal excuse to kick out the Jews, since they're "not real Russians/Spaniards/etc and will never assimilate".

But then the zionist factions won out and suddenly you are a racist for not believing (despite genetic evidence to the contrary) that all Jews are a monolithic entity that come from the Levant. And how dare you repeat some old white supremacist theory (that was started by anti-zionist Jews and widely supported by them for decades) that says anything to the contrary. And ignore the various genetic studies that support the theory, because these other studies say the theory is wrong and you should only read studies that zionists agree with.
 
But then the zionist factions won out and suddenly you are a racist for not believing (despite genetic evidence to the contrary) that all Jews are a monolithic entity that come from the Levant
If they aren't genetic jews that means an old guy sucked on their chopped up baby dick, not because God commanded it, but because the jew loves to suck baby dick. Imagine the cognitive dissonance!
 
They never claim the khazars never existed, they only point out that the ashkenazim are not descended from them.
In fairness to my favourite pilpul-spitter I do kind of agree that there's other sources of Jews than the Khazars.

My understanding of Jews is that the Jews kept objecting to the presence of the Romans. Around the time of the last Epistles, Jerusalem and the Second Temple were destroyed by the Romans and Jews were banned from much of Judea (and the Romans later built a city on the site called Aelia Capitolina, with Temple Mount hosting a temple to Jupiter and then the Church of The Holy Sepulchre, with al-Aqsa mosque getting added on to another bit later on). Jews wouldn't be allowed back into Jerusalem until the Muslims took over.

After that Jews moved around the Middle East (the Mizrahim) and also around the European parts of the Roman Empire. Some settled in Spain (the Sephardim) and the rest in bits of Italy and Gaul, gradually filtering through to Western and Central Europe. We know from Medieval Times there were Jews all over the place because Kings tended to have Jews do things for them, as they were an insular mercantile class that had money and unlike Christians, could also engage in usury. In the UK there was a Presbyter Judaeorum who handled taxation of Jews, and there was a separate Jewish exchequer because the Crown had borrowed so much from Aaron of Lincoln (a Jewish man who was the richest man in England at the time), and the massacre of Jews in York happened as a result of another bloke who owed Aaron a load of money. Likewise France and the Holy Roman Empire (basically Germany, bits of Italy and all of Central Europe) had "Court Jews". They tended to have their own unique styles of dress which then got made mandatory in parts of Germany, along with other identifying symbols
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It's argued that the pointy witch/wizard hat is from Medieval Europeans thinking Jews did evil rituals with Christian babies and associating it with their special pointy Jew hat, but it's worth noting that plenty of wealthy Christians had phases of wearing fun pointy hats too:
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They gradually got expelled from Western and Central Europe during Crusade times for being the closest thing to foreign Europeans knew and for being "enemies of Christ" (and also because of all the money people owed them), and the same nearly happened in Spain but the Sephardim helped the Moorish Caliphate take over and the Caliphate weren't as fussed with Jews - they didn't get expelled till later when the Christians got back in control. The Jews getting expelled fled to the parts of Europe that got Christianised last and so had less hostility towards Jews, namely Eastern Europe (which seemed to already have Jews as well). Still did quite a lot of Germany for a while, which is how Yiddish developed as a sort of pidgin (it's full of unmistakably German words).

They settled in Eastern Europe and formed what were termed "shtetls", where their population exploded (and intermarried with Eastern Europeans, about 40% of Ashkenazi DNA is European, which is why the average Jew you meet in Europe/USA is white and why Israelis manage to be racist to other Jews). These were majority Jewish settlements. They got concentrated into the Pale of Settlement and gradually filtered back into Western Europe as the Enlightenment meant Western Europe stopped being as authoritarian about Christianity. This ramped up in the late 19th century as it got more hostile in Eastern Europe (and they got banned from villages) which is the reason Hassidic Jews tend to wear their odd hats and outfits is because they're basically dressing like how a specific village used to dress prior to expulsion. I think originally they started dressing like locals and then never updated, kind of like how nuns wore wimples (which was what all married women wore in Europe back in the day).
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So yeah, I think there's a pretty solid argument that a lot of Jews probably aren't Khazars. The fact this article seems to adopt such an aggressive tone makes me think the Khazars must have done something bad and the author wants to distance Jews from Khazars, and it's pretty obvious there was Jewish involvement with the Khazars. Possibly the Jews who were already in Eastern Europe when the rest of them fled there were Khazars?
 
My understanding of Jews is that the Jews kept objecting to the presence of the Romans. Around the time of the last Epistles, Jerusalem and the Second Temple were destroyed by the Romans and Jews were banned from much of Judea (and the Romans later built a city on the site called Aelia Capitolina, with Temple Mount hosting a temple to Jupiter and then the Church of The Holy Sepulchre, with al-Aqsa mosque getting added on to another bit later on). Jews wouldn't be allowed back into Jerusalem until the Muslims took over.
That's right. There were also Jewish populations scattered pretty much everywhere within the Empire even before the destruction of the Temple for various reasons, usually the same as everybody else. Jobs, money and better opportunities.

In fact, in Pompeii one of the discoveries was kosher garum.
 
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