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https://news.sky.com/story/row-over-new-greggs-vegan-sausage-rolls-heats-up-11597679

A heated row has broken out over a move by Britain's largest bakery chain to launch a vegan sausage roll.

The pastry, which is filled with a meat substitute and encased in 96 pastry layers, is available in 950 Greggs stores across the country.

It was promised after 20,000 people signed a petition calling for the snack to be launched to accommodate plant-based diet eaters.


But the vegan sausage roll's launch has been greeted by a mixed reaction: Some consumers welcomed it, while others voiced their objections.

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spread happiness@p4leandp1nk
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#VEGANsausageroll thanks Greggs

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Cook and food poverty campaigner Jack Monroe declared she was "frantically googling to see what time my nearest opens tomorrow morning because I will be outside".

While TV writer Brydie Lee-Kennedy called herself "very pro the Greggs vegan sausage roll because anything that wrenches veganism back from the 'clean eating' wellness folk is a good thing".

One Twitter user wrote that finding vegan sausage rolls missing from a store in Corby had "ruined my morning".

Another said: "My son is allergic to dairy products which means I can't really go to Greggs when he's with me. Now I can. Thank you vegans."

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The hype got me like #Greggs #Veganuary


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TV presenter Piers Morgan led the charge of those outraged by the new roll.

"Nobody was waiting for a vegan bloody sausage, you PC-ravaged clowns," he wrote on Twitter.

Mr Morgan later complained at receiving "howling abuse from vegans", adding: "I get it, you're all hangry. I would be too if I only ate plants and gruel."

Another Twitter user said: "I really struggle to believe that 20,000 vegans are that desperate to eat in a Greggs."

"You don't paint a mustach (sic) on the Mona Lisa and you don't mess with the perfect sausage roll," one quipped.

Journalist Nooruddean Choudry suggested Greggs introduce a halal steak bake to "crank the fume levels right up to 11".

The bakery chain told concerned customers that "change is good" and that there would "always be a classic sausage roll".

It comes on the same day McDonald's launched its first vegetarian "Happy Meal", designed for children.

The new dish comes with a "veggie wrap", instead of the usual chicken or beef option.

It should be noted that Piers Morgan and Greggs share the same PR firm, so I'm thinking this is some serious faux outrage and South Park KKK gambiting here.

 

[Shitpiss Babylord]

If the latter, where's the rest of the bodies?

Still in London apparently. Maybe he was planning on doing two trips?

 

[White Trash Motorsport]

Did the suitcases each contain a body? Is dis nigga Mr T? Lifting two bodies like it's nothing, or were the remains just bits of legs n shit?

If the former, wog strength is real. If the latter, where's the rest of the bodies?

Looks like they’ve found more bits of one of the guys in the suitcases at the address in Shepherd’s Bush. Also, we’ve got a name for the suspect, Yostin Andres Mosquera, a 24yo Colombian.
So it’s probably cartel business, and the police are the least of this cretin’s worries right now.

 

[FedPostalService]

Looks like they’ve found more bits of one of the guys in the suitcases at the address in Shepherd’s Bush. Also, we’ve got a name for the suspect, Yostin Andres Mosquera, a 24yo Colombian.
So it’s probably cartel business, and the police are the least of this cretin’s worries right now.

Please let this black dude be attached to one of the right wing Columbian militia drug cartels so the press don’t know what to do.

 

[AssignedEva]

Still in London apparently. Maybe he was planning on doing two trips?

Looks like they’ve found more bits of one of the guys in the suitcases at the address in Shepherd’s Bush. Also, we’ve got a name for the suspect, Yostin Andres Mosquera, a 24yo Colombian.

Well I eat my words, it sounds like he did drag two suitcases leaking blood onto a train and ride it all the way to Bristol.
They've apparently just arrested him at Temple Meads - he seemingly ran off into Leigh woods on Thursday night and has only shown up now.

Journalists are making a point of mentioning that he really likes rugby, for some reason.

 

[Trig.Point]

Has anyone been following the Lucy Letby case. Now that the reporting gags have been lifted, Doctors, Statisticians and Journalists (most of them foreign) are coming out of the woodwork to say the evidence is flawed. That in fact they can't prove the babies were murdered let alone that Letby did it. That the group of 4 doctors that reported her to the police were forced to write a letter of apology to her months previously for bullying her (which knowing the personalities of British consultants I bet they loved).

Her defence lawyer is the biggest fucking culprit he didn't bring in a single expert witness even though he had multiple offers. He 'praised the heroes of the NHS', and because he never raised questions at the time to certain pieces of evidence, that can't be used in an appeal.

The British court put an injunction against the NPR article calling the case bullshit, but it's now been lifted.

https://archive.is/oPGez

Also I hate linking the guardian but their article is pretty good

https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/article/2024/jul/09/lucy-letby-evidence-experts-question

Peter Hitchens is also writing and talking about it.

 

[Coolio55]

Well I eat my words, it sounds like he did drag two suitcases leaking blood onto a train and ride it all the way to Bristol.
They've apparently just arrested him at Temple Meads - he seemingly ran off into Leigh woods on Thursday night and has only shown up now.
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Journalists are making a point of mentioning that he really likes rugby, for some reason.

The Adidas hat is the fucking cherry on top.

 

[FedPostalService]

Has anyone been following the Lucy Letby case. Now that the reporting gags have been lifted, Doctors, Statisticians and Journalists (most of them foreign) are coming out of the woodwork to say the evidence is flawed. That in fact they can't prove the babies were murdered let alone that Letby did it. That the group of 4 doctors that reported her to the police were forced to write a letter of apology to her months previously for bullying her (which knowing the personalities of British consultants I bet they loved).

The NHS is, from everything I’ve heard, possibly the worst place to work in the UK.

Small PL but an exgirlfriend had a role in operation theatres and some of the stories about the behaviours of doctors and surgeons were frightening. There was a weird omertà amongst NHS staff, even with near criminal behaviour, that she seemed weirdly proud of. She openly spoke about how she could never report anyone as it would utterly destroy her career.

They have the most twisted esprit de corps I’ve ever seen. They revel in how shit their workplace environment is. She talked about how she could get better money, hours, and conditions in the private sector, but if she moved to work in the private sector she’d be completely ostracised. I pointed out why didn’t she as she didn’t associate with anyone she worked with outside of work hours and she couldn’t comprehend it.

She was a really lovely girl and I don’t understand how she could function in a poisonous environment like that when she couldn’t even bring herself to start an argument with me.

A hint to young kiwis is don’t get into a relationship with someone when they’re already in an abusive with their profession. If they’re not prepared to fix the work side of their life which is making them miserable then you’ll start catching the shit for it.

The NHS heroes thing needs to stop. When you put people above criticism they can act like monsters.

The NHS needs torn down and rebuilt brick by brick.

 

[Miriam Margoyles]

omertà

esprit de corps

Um, excuse you, this is a Britbong thread. I didn't vote Leave for you to shit up my Internet with your fancy forren words that I have to Google.

Bloody Brexit, that's what I say.

 

[AssignedEva]

A hint to young kiwis is don’t get into a relationship with someone when they’re already in an abusive with their profession. If they’re not prepared to fix the work side of their life which is making them miserable then you’ll start catching the shit fur it.

I'd add on that if you're young you should be wary of dating any junior doctors your age in general - they tend to work excessively long hours with antisocial and unpredictable shifts when they're starting out, and their irregular downtime will frequently involve being exhausted or drinking heavily to cope. A lot of doctors are admirably drawn to their profession out of an urge to help people but it means you'll be second fiddle.

I think a lot of them also end up basically trauma bonding with their colleagues which can explain why they are so close knit even if they don't like each other - "civilians don't understand what we go through". Also why a lot of them end up hooking up with each other.

Established consultants are a different matter but the other bit of advice is to be wary of surgeons, there's something a bit off with most of them.

 

[Overly Serious]

I book first class when possible to avoid exactly this.

You get a little biscuit, too.

 

[FedPostalService]

Um, excuse you, this is a Britbong thread. I didn't vote Leave for you to shit up my Internet with your fancy forren words that I have to Google.

Bloody Brexit, that's what I say.

That just almost made me choke on my tea

I'd add on that if you're young you should be wary of dating any junior doctors your age in general - they tend to work excessively long hours with antisocial and unpredictable shifts when they're starting out, and their irregular downtime will frequently involve being exhausted or drinking heavily to cope. A lot of doctors are admirably drawn to their profession out of an urge to help people but it means you'll be second fiddle.

Yeah, I don’t think things ended too well for her. We lost touch but the next time I heard about her family was a good few years later when her brother ended up in the local papers with a laptop full of cheese pizza. From what little I’ve been able to piece together things went really down hill for her after that.

I did try and look into her out of interest a while back but she’s dropped off the planet and her mum’s house got repossessed (super cheap area that it would be impossible not be able to afford, even if you were a dole monkey.)

I’ve only seen people fall that far when drink and drugs are involved and not in the fun way.

NHS, not even once.

 

[isalaide]

I'm oddly thrilled that some no neck roadman tried to fuck with actual Colombians. The story when it comes out is going to be wild.

It is also darkly hilarious that he was foiled in his excellent suitcasing plan by the 'veil of light' suicide netting.

This is why I drive though. The only agitated person in the car with a suitcase full of body parts is me.

 

[Bloom Worm Cross Field]

For a bit of fun, I've made a couple of strawpolls:

What will cause a Labour party factional drama meltdown first?

• Troons
• Gaza
• NIMBYs
• Being insufficiently economically left wing
• Rejoining the EU
• (Not) stopping the boats
• Party/government corruption
• Ramifications from a black swan event like COVID
• Ukraine war
• Islamist extremism
• Other: (can specify)

Hopefully I didn't miss any major ones there.

By what time will the first Labour party drama meltdown be?

 

[Rusty Metal Skull Gun]

For a bit of fun, I've made a couple of strawpolls:

What will cause a Labour party factional drama meltdown first?

• Troons
• Gaza
• NIMBYs
• Being insufficiently economically left wing
• Rejoining the EU
• (Not) stopping the boats
• Party/government corruption
• Ramifications from a black swan event like COVID
• Ukraine war
• Islamist extremism
• Other: (can specify)

Hopefully I didn't miss any major ones there.

By what time will the first Labour party drama meltdown be?

It'll be the first time someone's murdered by a crim that they've let out early.

 

[FedPostalService]

For a bit of fun, I've made a couple of strawpolls:

What will cause a Labour party factional drama meltdown first?

• Troons
• Gaza
• NIMBYs
• Being insufficiently economically left wing
• Rejoining the EU
• (Not) stopping the boats
• Party/government corruption
• Ramifications from a black swan event like COVID
• Ukraine war
• Islamist extremism
• Other: (can specify)

Hopefully I didn't miss any major ones there.

By what time will the first Labour party drama meltdown be?

I think they’re going to speed run it and do all at the above at the exact same time.

 

[teriyakiburns]

It'll be the first time someone's murdered by a crim that they've let out early.

And it'll be a troon. A gaza-suporting troon, larping as a communist.

 

[FedPostalService]

It'll be the first time someone's murdered by a crim that they've let out early.

In fairness that happens A LOT already.

 

[AssignedEva]

What will cause a Labour party factional drama meltdown first?

It's hard to pick on timings but one that's already bubbling over is puberty blockers. Wes Streeting the Health Secretary is going to convert the emergency temporary ban on puberty blockers into a permanent ban. TransActual and an anonymous applicant are currently in tribunal trying to challenge this and get a judicial review - basically, the Medicines Act 1968 allows the Health Secretary to "restrict the supply of medications". However, the Health Secretary must engage in a lengthy consultation process with organisations that have an interest (i.e. groups like TransActual and GenderGP). The exception to this is the "urgency requirement"; if the Health Secretary needs to act quickly and decisively in the face of new evidence representing a significant and imminent risk of harm to public health, like when herbal supplements containing Aristolochia got banned in 1999 because it turns out it causes kidney failure, they can act unilaterally.

The argument being mounted is that the Cass Report says there is a lack of evidence around the efficacy and safety of puberty blockers and they should be used in clinical trials, which they're saying doesn't meet the same standard of significant and imminent risk - it's not "puberty blockers fuck up kids for life with no benefit", it's "we don't have any evidence that the benefits to children are outweighed by the harms" - and there was no clear ministerial statement made laying out what the significant and imminent risk was. Also Wes Streeting has vocally criticised GenderGP and misrepresented private provision of medications as "loopholes", and the previous Health Secretary didn't do the temporary ban based on clinical advice, and they didn't consult about the potential health risks of cessation of treatment to children on puberty blockers or in gender clinics. It's therefore getting mooted that this represents a breach of Article 8 rights of transgender children (right to a private life, which sort of gets bundled up in Gillick Competency and the right of a child to consent to or withdraw consent for a medical treatment).

The Judgement is still pending, and it's hard to say what the outcome is likely to be. If upheld, it basically boils down to "the emergency ban wasn't done properly, you were supposed to spend a couple of years arguing with us first" and the ban would be sent to judicial review and could end up getting revoked. To be clear, I'm pretty sure the Health Secretary would still ultimately be able to ban puberty blockers if they were smart about how they approached the consultation process, but it would take a couple years of arguing and draw a lot of ire from the usual suspects who'd constantly be trying to prove the Secretary of State wasn't following the right process because he'd already made up his mind.

 

[Whoopsie Daisy]

Now that the reporting gags have been lifted, Doctors, Statisticians and Journalists (most of them foreign) are coming out of the woodwork to say the evidence is flawed. That in fact they can't prove the babies were murdered let alone that Letby did it.

I said a few pages back that Letby was a scapegoat. Loads of nurses were killing kids due to lack of training and incompetence, but if the hospital was found doing it, they would be shut down.

So the top earners decided to pin it all on one 'baby serial killer' allowing them to wash their hands of the whole thing. Of course, their friends in the media helped push the narrative.

 

[6MillionCoofs]

@FedPostalService

There are many reasons why people burn out from working for the NHS. Beyond the fact that it is a really hard job.

Due to the nature of the job, some times you fuck up. What this means is if you see someone doing wrong on purpose you can’t report it because then your expected and allowed fuck ups are fair game.

I book first class when possible to avoid exactly this.

lol. You have to book.