US US Politics General - Discussion of President Biden and other politicians

 

[Paper Machete]

If I'm a sniper on a roof charged with protecting the fucking President and I see a guy with a rifle aiming at him I'd dome the fucker I wouldn't wait for him to shoot first.
Theres video of the snipers behind Trump and people warning them and they react, they just didn't shoot until he already fired.
They fucking saw him take the shot and only responded afterwards.

They were probably waiting on orders of what to do. They have to do this shit on command not on their own independent decision making. If they did, all sorts of agents would always be doing wild ass shit and it'd be chaos. At least, that's my understanding of how this shit works.

 

[Troons to the moon]

I don't know about the rest of you but this event has probably destroyed what's left of my political filter. I have a lot of good friends that I like very much who I have tolerated for years while they spout off their retarded takes. I'm done with it. I'm throwing my useless blue state vote toward Trump and I'll tell anyone that brings that shit up.

Probably should have done this a long time ago.

Yes, mainly because that bullet is contempt, contempt for you, what you believe in and your future.
For a decade now violence, sensationalism, hyperbole, derision, hatred and gaslighting have come from their side, directed at you and all you care about.
And for said past decade most have put up with having our hands tied when it comes to effectively combatting all of this, brought down to a meek, feeble "what if roles were reversed" all in the hopes that these people are acting in what they think is best for the people of the U.S.
That bullet was them signalling that they don't and won't give you a chance to succeed where they have failed.

I fear that was the first shot of many and I pray for the U.S.

 

[Hyro]

If I'm a sniper on a roof charged with protecting the fucking President and I see a guy with a rifle aiming at him I'd dome the fucker I wouldn't wait for him to shoot first.
Theres video of the snipers behind Trump and people warning them and they react, they just didn't shoot until he already fired.
They fucking saw him take the shot and only responded afterwards.

Was the shooter in a crowd? I can understand being a bit hesitant to shoot if you could end up hitting people behind him.

 

[Timothy Troon]

That’s because you don’t hear about the plots that are uncovered before they get a chance to carry them out unless the FBI have set them up.

Those plots basically solve themselves tho, people ranting online and to all and sundry ?

I think a well motivated, ex army type would probably succeed imo

 

[Misao Hyper]

Boy as someone who normally comes here only for the lolcow shit like Phil, those threads have almost ZERO in fighting, it's wild to see this site like this for me. Everyone accusing everyone else of mental illness whilst having a breakdown themselves. Maybe we really are the real lolcows.

 

[Otterly]

Do you:
A)

B) Have the sniper hold fire so the person can be intercepted by the plainsclothes agents in a much more low key, the rally continues uninterrupted, and you don't have to wonder if the sniper mis-Identified a camera or toy as a gun.

A. I would do A. What would the choice be if it was the incumbent president? It absolutely would not be B.
200ft away? Through a rifle scope you can see very clearly what he’s carrying.
There was significant time between the people in the crowd spotting him and him shooting. No one was dispatched there to check he he had a gun or a camera. They let him get up there. Why were there no people on that roof anyway? Looking at the aerial picture it’s not a big are to secure. Why wasn’t it secured?

 

[hideandgoseekchampion]

Was the shooter in a crowd? I can understand being a bit hesitant to shoot if you could end up hitting people behind him.

No, he was just jacking off on a rooftop alone

 

[Sperghetti]

Sorry, clock me if you must, but is there any confirmation on the "registered Republican" aspect of this? If the dude is really 20-21 years old, he could only have registered in the past 2-3 years, which would put a confusing spin on things.
It's not like he would have been around to vote for any other Republican in his life, why would he register as one, assuming he wasn't a fan of ol' Don, the most probable candidate for the party?

Like somebody said earlier, PA has closed primaries. That is, you can only vote in a primary if you're a registered member of that party. (Independents can't vote for either.)

So if you're not Republican but you wanted to vote in the Republican primary for a non-Trump candidate, you'd have to register as one.

 

[TheRaptorJesus]

If I'm a sniper on a roof charged with protecting the fucking President and I see a guy with a rifle aiming at him I'd dome the fucker I wouldn't wait for him to shoot first.
Theres video of the snipers behind Trump and people warning them and they react, they just didn't shoot until he already fired.
They fucking saw him take the shot and only responded afterwards.

He couldn't just shoot the sniper before knowing their preferred pronouns.

 

[behindyourightnow]

Its 100% easy and clear:
You are government bureaucrat sitting in the air-conditioned party van trailer. You have gotten important enough to sit in the big boy chair during a political rally. You have a report from a sniper of a man with a gun getting into position on the roof. You have plainsclothes agents already moving in verify and deal with the threat. You also have no reports of dangerous political idealogues at the rally.

Do you:
A) approve the sniper to fire, will will not only result in the person being killed but also triggering the close-in protective detail to protectively tackle the candidate on stage and get them to the safe zone, ending the rally in a newscycle worthy event to which you will be very attached.

B) Have the sniper hold fire so the person can be intercepted by the plainsclothes agents in a much more low key, the rally continues uninterrupted, and you don't have to wonder if the sniper mis-Identified a camera or toy as a gun.

Good point. They still need an overhaul of their shitty decision-making processes, but I guess that's a given now.

(One thing that prevents me from thinking that the Secret Service was involved is like... they're the Secret Service. They already essentially have 24/7 access to Trump. If they wanted to kill the guy, they could just smother him with a pillow one night and claim it was a heart attack. Much less of a dramatic media event, and less chance of getting caught than a plan that involves bringing in some outside retard)

 

[Kane Lives]

A. I would do A. What would the choice be if it was the incumbent president? It absolutely would not be B.
200ft away? Through a rifle scope you can see very clearly what he’s carrying.
There was significant time between the people in the crowd spotting him and him shooting. No one was dispatched there to check he he had a gun or a camera. They let him get up there. Why were there no people on that roof anyway? Looking at the aerial picture it’s not a big are to secure. Why wasn’t it secured?

Remember, there's also the possibility of indecision by the higher ups. The sniper on watch could be listening to his superiors arguing where to GO and take him out, all while his scope was on him. Never underestimate the capabilities of people to take the safest route, which is do sit on their thumbs and do nothing.

 

[Wimbydong]

I won't even try to guess what the hell the October surprise is gonna be; there frankly isn't a ton of room to escalate.

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[Boingboingboingboi]

closed primaries, they were voting for nikki haley or however her name is spelled
unsurprising that media outlets are just forgetting this happened

yeah i really don't see this narrative penetrating msm sources unless we have a manifesto or some hard evidence of left-wing politics.

 

[Timothy Troon]

Imagine if the shooter was a Troon

 

[Ghostse]

Do they need to wait for authorisation? If so did he ask and who was on the other end of the line?

Yes. Unless he could be 100% sure there was an imminent, immediate threat - which is why he fired the second shooting started.
He'd be asking for authorization for the Agent in Charge/Command.

See my other posts for reasonable reasons command would have delayed.

 

[Manimal House]

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Thank you to everyone for your thoughts and prayers yesterday, as it was God alone who prevented the unthinkable from happening. We will FEAR NOT, but instead remain resilient in our Faith and Defiant in the face of Wickedness. Our love goes out to the other victims and their families. We pray for the recovery of those who were wounded, and hold in our hearts the memory of the citizen who was so horribly killed. In this moment, it is more important than ever that we stand United, and show our True Character as Americans, remaining Strong and Determined, and not allowing Evil to Win. I truly love our Country, and love you all, and look forward to speaking to our Great Nation this week from Wisconsin.
DJT

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[LurkTrawl]

It's not unlikely that someone who would try to Kill Trump wouldn't also register as a Republican to vote against him in the primary.

Brb gonna go dig for all the corporate media articles telling lefties to do just that in case some retard thinks you're full of shit.

it's wild to see this site like this for me. Everyone accusing everyone else of mental illness whilst having a breakdown themselves.

Bruh A&N has been like this since it was called A&H, when I got here. It's the whole draw of the place - or used to be, A&H is a bit calmer now and Mass Debates has taken its place but still, it's why it's the autism "Thunderdome".

 

[Flour]

This is a golden opportunity for dems to talk about liking people who don't get shot.

 

[Otterly]

He didn't adjust aim that I could see. It looked like he had the shooter in his sights and didn't fire until the 'tard did.
From LEO I've interacted with he was probably waiting for someone to give the go-ahead to shoot.

Well, were I that sniper I’d be putting my testimony on record about who I spoke to and what they said today, now, and I’d be very clear indeed that I wasn’t at all suicidal.

 

[Diana Moon Glampers]

The thing about shouting "Fight, fight, fight" is, if you're Trump and you've just been fucking grazed in the ear and pulled your hand away covered in blood, you are:

#1: Totally deaf in that moment (I wonder if he will have some degree of permanent hearing loss in that ear, that stuff recovers worse when you're a senior citizen)
#2: Unsure of where you have been shot or how bad the damage is
#3: Unsure of if you're in a mass casualty event where the shooter is about to spray at the crowd, or if there's a second shooter about to take another shot at you in another 2 seconds
#4: Unsure if the deep state is about to take you out at the hospital and this is the last time anyone sees you alive

Every dumb elementary school active shooter drill now is "Run, Hide, Fight." When running or hiding is unlikely to work, you fight back. It's literally what the teachers and social work crowd will tell you to do in an active shooter situation where no cover is available!

And Trump had no idea if he'd been, e.g., shot internally when he was being led off stage. There's tons of situations where people don't realize they've been shot in more than one place and only realize the extent of the (lethal) damage after a couple of minutes upright. Guy literally did not know if he might be dying. Holding someone "accountable" for their possible last words in a situation of extreme danger is one of the most pathetic media copes I have ever seen, especially when the strategy he advocated was literally what their people tell you to do in this situation.