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They were probably waiting on orders of what to do. They have to do this shit on command not on their own independent decision making. If they did, all sorts of agents would always be doing wild ass shit and it'd be chaos. At least, that's my understanding of how this shit works.
Under most circumstances yeah, but when you have a guy on a roof with a rifle aiming at the President and the guy who is supposed to clear you has his thumb up his ass humming and hawing for ten seconds you're gonna take the shot, I'd rather explain why I fired without clearance than explain why I watched a guy assassinate the President when I had a bead on him because I was waiting for orders.

A guy on a roof pointing a rifle at the President is the definition of "imminent threat"

Fuck R.O.E. bullshit when you have an assassin in your scope.
He was on a roof with an AR, pointed at Trump, its not like it was a guy in the crowd who may or may not have had a handgun and was surrounded by civillians making any shot risky.
 
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I'm spewing all the solid information and footage from this thread to anyone I know would be interested, and almost all of them have been like "Wow, how did you find all this out already?" "Oh just from looking around..."

Thanks KF for being the one place where proper discussion, info gathering and plentiful laughs can be had ❤
 
Under most circumstances yeah, but when you have a guy on a roof with a rifle aiming at the President and the guy who is supposed to clear you has his thumb up his ass humming and hawing for ten seconds you're gonna take the shot, I'd rather explain why I fired without clearance than explain why I watched a guy assassinate the President when I had a bead on him because I was waiting for orders.
Fuck R.O.E. bullshit when you have an assassin in your scope.
He was on a roof with an AR, pointed at Trump, its not like it was a guy in the crowd who may or may not have had a handgun and was surrounded by civillians making any shot risky.

Imagine the news story in this alternate universe.

"Trump has innocent ActBlue donor shot by armed thugs just for watching his speech from a rooftop which was his right as an American!"
 
If they wanted to kill the guy, they could just smother him with a pillow one night and claim it was a heart attack. Much less of a dramatic media event, and less chance of getting caught than a plan that involves bringing in some outside retard)
Plus, nobody would even question that. We'd all just go "Well, he loved his McDonald's..."
 
Boy as someone who normally comes here only for the lolcow shit like Phil, those threads have almost ZERO in fighting, it's wild to see this site like this for me. Everyone accusing everyone else of mental illness whilst having a breakdown themselves. Maybe we really are the real lolcows.
Welcome to Thunderdome lol
 
Even then, I bet 99% of the people who saw him on the roof just assumed he was a SS sniper wearing slightly unusual gear. "There's a sniper right there? Where I can see him? Well, it's so obvious that everyone must know about him by now. He must be part of the security team."
SS snipers categorically don't have long scraggly hair. They're not working undercover, not trying to blend in with anyone. They might not want to be super visible up on a roof but they won't wear civilian clothes or look like a college stoner.
Its 100% easy and clear:
You are government bureaucrat sitting in the air-conditioned party van trailer. You have gotten important enough to sit in the big boy chair during a political rally. You have a report from a sniper of a man with a gun getting into position on the roof. You have plainsclothes agents already moving in verify and deal with the threat. You also have no reports of dangerous political idealogues at the rally.

Do you:
A) approve the sniper to fire, which will not only result in the person being killed but also triggering the close-in protective detail to protectively tackle the candidate on stage and get them to the safe zone, ending the rally in a newscycle worthy event to which you will be very attached. Bear in mind the sniper may not be able to positively ID the person as having a weapon due to angle/distance.

B) Have the sniper hold fire so the person can be intercepted by the plainsclothes agents in a much more low key, the rally continues uninterrupted, and you don't have to wonder if the sniper mis-Identified a camera or toy as a gun.
Option C: Have Trump rushed away from the stage and send all spare personnel to get on that roof and arrest the guy there. There should be cameras covering the entire area and any hint of a sniper should trigger the immediate removal of the principal to a secure location.
 
This isn't a glow post.

I hope the security is beefed up for both Trump and Biden and an absolute fortress for both conventions. Nobody wants an escalation.

The thing that's really blowing me away are the people saying that this is staged. Someone died and others were injured. Are they saying they're crisis actors? Because if so it would be extremely ironic.

Anyone who says this is staged has never fired a rifle.
 
Under most circumstances yeah, but when you have a guy on a roof with a rifle aiming at the President and the guy who is supposed to clear you has his thumb up his ass humming and hawing for ten seconds you're gonna take the shot, I'd rather explain why I fired without clearance than explain why I watched a guy assassinate the President when I had a bead on him because I was waiting for orders.
Fuck R.O.E. bullshit when you have an assassin in your scope.
He was on a roof with an AR, pointed at Trump, its not like it was a guy in the crowd who may or may not have had a handgun and was surrounded by civillians making any shot risky.
trump would probably have given the guy a total pardon if he did that, and he'd deserve it.

I'm spewing all the solid information and footage from this thread to anyone I know would be interested, and almost all of them have been like "Wow, how did you find all this out already?" "Oh just from looking around..."

Thanks KF for being the one place where proper discussion, info gathering and plentiful laughs can be had ❤
an anon here once said "being on KF is like having a crystal ball. you can see the future, but nobody believes you, because crystal balls are retarded."

Boy as someone who normally comes here only for the lolcow shit like Phil, those threads have almost ZERO in fighting, it's wild to see this site like this for me. Everyone accusing everyone else of mental illness whilst having a breakdown themselves. Maybe we really are the real lolcows.
sometimes, it just feels nice to be able to call someone a niggerfaggot, and have them call me a retarded nigger in return. and in other threads where there's much less shitflinging allowed/tolerated, we behave civil and pleasant to one another. that's how a good society functions. gotta have a thunderdome sometimes.
 
Plus, nobody would even question that. We'd all just go "Well, he loved his McDonald's..."
Strategically placed gator on the Mar-A-Lago golf course, it's no less goofy than half the shit they tried on Castro.

Edit: Theoretically you could keep a gator in a freezer-room at a temperature that wouldn't kill it, and put it in a tree in the early AM above where the target is known to frequent if a spot is available. Bam, drop-gator.
 
I had always assumed the SS was trained to shoot first and deal with it later. You don't have time to waffle when someone life is on the lines. They'd be immune to any accidents.
I always assumed that too and in some situations it would be the correct course of action. But you can't really have multiple people mixing with civilians, all with guns, who are all going to fire at will. That's recipe for fuck ups.
 
If I'm a sniper on a roof charged with protecting the fucking President and I see a guy with a rifle aiming at him I'd dome the fucker I wouldn't wait for him to shoot first.
A. I would do A. What would the choice be if it was the incumbent president? It absolutely would not be B.
200m away?

You are 200 meters, not feet away. That's two football fields. The person is crawling on the roof. How absolutely certain are you that is a gun?

This was the wrong call. But you can't monday morning quarter back this shit.

Under most circumstances yeah, but when you have a guy on a roof with a rifle aiming at the President and the guy who is supposed to clear you has his thumb up his ass humming and hawing for ten seconds you're gonna take the shot, I'd rather explain why I fired without clearance than explain why I watched a guy assassinate the President when I had a bead on him because I was waiting for orders.
Fuck R.O.E. bullshit when you have an assassin in your scope.
He was on a roof with an AR, pointed at Trump, its not like it was a guy in the crowd who may or may not have had a handgun and was surrounded by civillians making any shot risky.
It is very likely the sniper couldn't positively ID the object as a rifle.


Good point. They still need an overhaul of their shitty decision-making processes, but I guess that's a given now.

(One thing that prevents me from thinking that the Secret Service was involved is like... they're the Secret Service. They already essentially have 24/7 access to Trump. If they wanted to kill the guy, they could just smother him with a pillow one night and claim it was a heart attack. Much less of a dramatic media event, and less chance of getting caught than a plan that involves bringing in some outside retard)
Again, it is entirely possible the AIC is on the Biden/CIA payroll. Just that's not the ONLY plausible chain of events.

I would also doubt if a glow op that the glow came from the SS, if for no other reason than the reports were the SS agents on Trump's detail liked him.

Well, were I that sniper I’d be putting my testimony on record about who I spoke to and what they said today, now, and I’d be very clear indeed that I wasn’t at all suicidal.
That is an absolute fucking given. I would be dialing a lawyer before the round left the chamber.
 
Your kind will quite literally die with a boot on your neck, and you'll refuse to move because you think it's some kind of trick.
There's always an element of that, I'd say it's a majority of people. More Jews walked themselves on to a train than took up arms and fought
And Trump had no idea if he'd been, e.g., shot internally when he was being led off stage. There's tons of situations where people don't realize they've been shot in more than one place and only realize the extent of the (lethal) damage after a couple of minutes upright. Guy literally did not know if he might be dying. Holding someone "accountable" for their possible last words in a situation of extreme danger is one of the most pathetic media copes I have ever seen, especially when the strategy he advocated was literally what their people tell you to do in this situation.
Reagan, famously, said he didn't realize he'd even been shot until minutes later. Your body does a chemical dump when you get injured to help you get out of whatever situation, adrenaline, endorphins etc, numb pain, up your alertness,
 
Good point. They still need an overhaul of their shitty decision-making processes, but I guess that's a given now.

(One thing that prevents me from thinking that the Secret Service was involved is like... they're the Secret Service. They already essentially have 24/7 access to Trump. If they wanted to kill the guy, they could just smother him with a pillow one night and claim it was a heart attack. Much less of a dramatic media event, and less chance of getting caught than a plan that involves bringing in some outside retard)
The idea isn't that the entire SS is after trump, just some of the high command. Not saying it's true either way just clarifying.
 
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