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behindyourightnow said:
(One thing that prevents me from thinking that the Secret Service was involved is like... they're the Secret Service. They already essentially have 24/7 access to Trump. If they wanted to kill the guy, they could just smother him with a pillow one night and claim it was a heart attack. Much less of a dramatic media event, and less chance of getting caught than a plan that involves bringing in some outside retard)
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nah, you definitely want to outsource that sort of job and have a transparent and dead fall-guy to let the speculation swirl. otherwise you get an epstein situation (which nobody believes) rather than a kennedy situation (which plenty of people do).

Gehenna said:
The complete lack of this despite us knowing from witnesses that the threat was passed up the chain is why I think this was 100% someone or someones up top either through extreme incompetence or outright sabotage tried to get Trump killed. The guys on the ground did their job but there is -clearly- something going on in command on the radio that paralyzed them.
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they've been hamstringing his SS detail for months. this was bound to happen. deliberate incompetence and plausible deniability. was this particular event "planned" by someone at the top? almost certainly not. was every democrat basically waiting and hoping for this to happen as a result of limiting his secret service detail? you bet.
 
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A further note: Just look at Uvalde for what bad Command can do to people. Yes the SS is trained better than random LEO, but that also means they tend to be more trained to obey Command. If Command is completely fucked it very well could have paralyzed all response until something, in this case the perp shooting, made them decide to ignore Command and act on their own initiative.

I -really- want to know what their radio chatter was.
 
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Gehenna said:
The complete lack of this despite us knowing from witnesses that the threat was passed up the chain is why I think this was 100% someone or someones up top either through extreme incompetence or outright sabotage tried to get Trump killed. The guys on the ground did their job but there is -clearly- something going on in command on the radio that paralyzed them.
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Some people are going to ask questions of the SS Director. Former SS agent to Vice President Biden. Awarded Head of Security at Pepsico. Returns awarded a position as Director of the SS. Then invited to the Chicago DNC convention.
 
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Papa stink said:
People are trying to push the whole "He's a registered Republican!" shit when he didn't vote for Trump and donated to progressive and liberal organizations.
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If you hate Trump, registering Republican and voting for someone else in the primary is literally the most damaging thing you can do to him. It's wild that people are struggling this much to wrap their heads around that. Your registry doesn't restrict you from the general election vote.
 
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The Blue Morpho said:
NOOOOOO guys it wasn't glowies this time even though we know glowies do this all the time and have many examples of them doing this, it wans't this time bro please believe me bro please!
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If I thought it was glowniggers I'd have an argument ready by now to defend it and have logic'd it out as to why this would've been the moment they let the guy loose, personally.

Glownigger plant would've been told to hit center-mass, and would've. For most people there's a few glaring reasons to disbelieve it's a glow-op.
 
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STARS158 said:
Some people are going to ask questions of the SS Director. Former SS agent to Vice President Biden. Awarded Head of Security at Pepsico. Returns awarded a position as Director of the SS. Then invited to the Chicago DNC convention.
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i wonder if she was put in a security position. if she was, i wonder if they'll keep her there.
 
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Ghostse said:
You are 200 meters, not feet away. That's two football fields. The person is crawling on the roof. How absolutely certain are you that is a gun?
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Through a Zeiss optic? With a spotter to confirm? Pretty fucking certain.
200 meters isn't far for good optics that people use to hit foot square plates 3000 meters away.
These guys are pros.
People in the crowd saw it was a rifle when he was climbing up there and they didn't have optics.
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This was the wrong call. But you can't monday morning quarter back this shit.
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Thats fair though. Its easy to sit at home and second guess, lot different being there. I still think they fucked up bigly.
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very likely the sniper couldn't positively ID the object as a rifle.
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Yeah thats likely gonna be the excuse. Anyway you cut it though this was a fucking gross failure. Every fucking roof with a clear line on that podium should have had guys up on it already, either USSS or local LEO's.
The fuck up here started way before the shot.
 
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LurkTrawl said:
If I thought it was glowniggers I'd have an argument ready by now to defend it and have logic'd it out as to why this would've been the moment they let the guy loose.

Glownigger plant would've been told to hit center-mass, and would've.
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Glowniggers could have stopped it but didn't, glowniggers wanted a schizo to take the shot whether or not they put the gun in his hand, that's all I'm suggesting.
 
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The Blue Morpho said:
Glowniggers could have stopped it but didn't, glowniggers wanted a schizo to take the shot whether or not they put the gun in his hand, that's all I'm suggesting.
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Yeah that's where I think the SS command being quiet comes in, I am suspicious that some fucking retard at the top thought this was "the chance" and let it happen, but the sniper being backed/pushed by glowies right now makes no sense unless the assumption is that they - for some unknown reason - didn't care whether or not he died, but merely that it happened at all.
 
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Chainsaw Juggler said:
If you hate Trump, registering Republican and voting for someone else in the primary is literally the most damaging thing you can do to him. It's wild that people are struggling this much to wrap their heads around that. Your registry doesn't restrict you from the general election vote.
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Can confirm.

I know a majority of Pennsylvanians register Democrat. (2 buddies I know personally did so) so they AREN'T targeted by the system. It's a Union state and if you are registered Republican, it causes problems with employers of said Union. Especially Teamsters.
 
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