Alec Baldwin's 'prop firearm' kills one, injures another

Sheriff's office: Alec Baldwin discharged prop gun that killed crew member, wounded director

Baldwin is one of the film's star actors and producers. He went to the sheriff's office willingly and provided a statement to investigators, sheriff's office spokesman Juan Ríos said.

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Actor Alec Baldwin discharged a "prop firearm" that killed a cinematographer and injured a the director of the movie Rust, being filmed on a set south of Santa Fe, a county sheriff's office spokesman said late Thursday.

Halyna Hutchins, 42 and the director of photography for the movie, died at University of New Mexico Hospital in Albuquerque. The film's director, Joel Souza, was hospitalized in Santa Fe, Santa Fe County Sheriff's Office spokesman Juan Ríos said.

A source closed to the investigation said Baldwin, 63, was questioned by investigators late Thursday and was seen by a New Mexican reporter and photographer in tears.

Investigators are still trying to determine if the incident was an accident, Ríos said. No charges have been filed, and the investigation remains open, Ríos wrote in a news release.

The prop was fired at Bonanza Creek Ranch, where filming was underway, the sheriff's office said in an early evening news release. Baldwin stars in the production.

Hutchins died from her injuries after she was flown to University of New Mexico Hospital, according to the sheriff's office. Souza was taken to Christus St. Vincent Regional Medical Center, where he is receiving emergency care, the sheriff's office said. Attempts to get comment from Baldwin were unsuccessful.

“We received the devastating news this evening, that one of our members, Halyna Hutchins, the Director of Photography on a production called ‘Rust’ in New Mexico died from injuries sustained on the set,” John Lindley, the president of the International Cinematographers Guild Local 600, and Rebecca Rhine, the executive director, said in a statement, as reported by Variety. “The details are unclear at this moment, but we are working to learn more, and we support a full investigation into this tragic event. This is a terrible loss, and we mourn the passing of a member of our Guild’s family.”

Deputies were investigating how the accident occurred and "what type of projectile was discharged," the sheriff's office said in an earlier news release.

Rust Movie Productions did not immediately respond to requests for comment.

Filming for Rust was set to continue into early November, according to a news release from the New Mexico Film Office. It's described as the story of a 13-year-old boy left to fend for himself and his younger brother following the death of their parents in 1880s Kansas, with New Mexico doubling for Kansas.

Guns firing blanks have been blamed for deaths in past movie productions. Online Hollywood news site Deadline reported, "Actor Jon-Erik Hexum was killed Oct. 18, 1984, on the set of the TV series Cover Up when he accidentally shot himself in the head with a gun loaded with blanks. And in 1993, Brandon Lee, the son of martial arts legend Bruce Lee, died after he was shot in the head by a gun firing blanks on the set of The Crow. Both incidents were determined to have been accidents."

This is a developing story and will be updated.

 

[themanwhowalks]

"They learned...the dummy ammunition".

Kill yourself you fucking retard

 

[Historical Strelkov]

Kill yourself you fucking retard

Bro i just said you confused dummy rounds with blank fire rounds, which aren't the same thing. Now you're telling me to kill myself and I'm retarded because you posted a timestamp that proves what I said?

Do you not understand what I'm saying or what? What's goin on big guy?

 

[themanwhowalks]

Bro i just said you confused dummy rounds with blank fire rounds, which aren't the same thing. Now you're telling me to kill myself and I'm retarded because you posted a timestamp that proves what I said?
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Do you not understand what I'm saying or what? What's goin on big guy?

....Dummy rounds are a form of blank ammunition. You were claiming the blanks on set were crimp top blanks, they were not and I've demonstrated such. I can promise I know more about firearms then you do.

>Sam hyde in 2024
I didn't realize it was pride month

 

[Historical Strelkov]

....Dummy rounds are a form of blank ammunition. You were claiming the blanks on set were crimp top blanks, they were not and I've demonstrated such. I can promise I know more about firearms then you do.

>Sam hyde in 2024
I didn't realize it was pride month

Dummy rounds aren't blank rounds.
You don't use these terms interchangably for this very reason. Holy fuck.

 

[themanwhowalks]

Dummy rounds aren't blank rounds.
You don't use these terms interchangably for this very reason. Holy fuck.
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The rounds on set didn't have their primer removed. Also, your arguing with semantics that don't exist. "Blank" rounds and "dummy" rounds are pretty much interchangeable and your autistic insistence on their difference shows your inexperience with firearms.

And its besides the point, you claimed the rounds on set could be visually distinguished from live ammunition, which they could not.

And it's also irrelevant, the armorer was the one who loaded the gun. Because that is her job as the armorer, she loaded a live round in a gun and told her actor that there were only blanks in it. Again, I don't understand how you don't understand this.

Even if Baldwin pulled out every single round to inspect them, he would not have been able to tell them apart from each other visually.

If you went to a pharmacist for tylenol and they put a single cyanide pill in your bottle, who is responsible when your kid ends up in the hospital?

 

[New & Improved Username]

Alec didn't point the gun at the woman, he pointed it at a camera that the woman (and another guy) happened to be behind.

Do you have a job that has become so routine that you must go about it without checking everyday things?

It would have been great if he made sure to be the bottom line and hadn't just trusted that everyone else did their jobs. He didn't. Even at negligent manslaughter it was an over charge.

Prosecutor and police fucked the case with stupid shenanigans.

I'm saddened by the state of NM plastic surgery as seen with the judge and that head investigator. #1 that these poor women feel they must engage with this at all #2 that the results are so bad. There's no way these results are better than what their natural faces were. Tragic.

 

[Dr J]

Someone's a little bit mad about the stickers you guise

 

[Historical Strelkov]

"Blank" rounds and "dummy" rounds are pretty much interchangeable and your autistic insistence on their difference shows your inexperience with firearms.

Dunning-Kruger at it again. They're not interchangable. Absolutely not how it is supposed to work. Even outside of film work.
There's crimped blanks, there's green tip training rounds, there are cork rounds. But in most film sets the blanks are crimped.
I've been to the largest prop house in the industry and spoken about using blank arms for my own films. No one would use these terms interchangably because its dangerous, and they take it very seriously unlike Alec Baldwin and that fucking retard he had doing the job.

The rounds on set didn't have their primer removed.

If they have functional primers then they're not dummy rounds!
If they have charge in them they're not dummy rounds!
This is so fucking simple. Just because you have some guns, or have experience with guns and have some fuckin practice rounds doesn't make you a film gun expert.
All my dummy rounds I own that aren't those anodized ones that look fake, have a hole in them, and the primer has already been used.

you claimed the rounds on set could be visually distinguished from live ammunition, which they could not.

They should have different weights, because they should have no charge. There's no reason for there to be an unfired primer in a dummy round, unless the shot specifically calls for that, which isnt the case here. The whole point of separating ammunition is this reason explicitly. I have never been on a set where live ammunition was anywhere near the prop truck. I have never heard of an armorer storing real ammunition with dummy rounds or blank rounds. They don't even keep their blank firing arms in the same location as ones that aren't used for movies. A competent armorer has all of the guns organized by their make and model, and labeled for different loads.

If you went to a pharmacist for tylenol and they put a single cyanide pill in your bottle, who is responsible when your kid ends up in the hospital?

If you are handed a pill, told its tylenol and you don't check that it's cyanide and hand it to someone else, you're partially responsible. If you don't know what the fuck you're giving people then thats your problem.

Even if Baldwin pulled out every single round to inspect them, he would not have been able to tell them apart from each other visually.

I could. I would be alarmed. What's his faggot excuse?

 

[MadStan]

The rounds on set didn't have their primer removed. Also, your arguing with semantics that don't exist. "Blank" rounds and "dummy" rounds are pretty much interchangeable and your autistic insistence on their difference shows your inexperience with firearms.

And its besides the point, you claimed the rounds on set could be visually distinguished from live ammunition, which they could not.

And it's also irrelevant, the armorer was the one who loaded the gun. Because that is her job as the armorer, she loaded a live round in a gun and told her actor that there were only blanks in it. Again, I don't understand how you don't understand this.

Even if Baldwin pulled out every single round to inspect them, he would not have been able to tell them apart from each other visually.

If you went to a pharmacist for tylenol and they put a single cyanide pill in your bottle, who is responsible when your kid ends up in the hospital?

Ah, bro...Dummy Rounds and Blanks are certainly not interchangable.

The head of a blank will be very different from that of a dummy (which on the head can look like a live round).

If the Armorer had your understanding of dummy and blanks being basically the same, it really isn't a surprise she loaded a live round!

I’ve never seen a blank round
Look like a live round. You state she had live rounds on the set and blank rounds on the shoot. But she must have also had dummy rounds on the set also and mistaken a live round for a dummy and loaded it. Because if she loaded a live round thinking it was blank I fail to understand how a
Person could not make that visually crystal clear distinction. Unless they were super high and mentally and visually impaired.

Visually at a glance I could mistake a dummy and live round; but I would never mistake a live and a blank round.

Am I understanding you correctly?

 

[themanwhowalks]

I could. I would be alarmed. What's his faggot excuse?

You clearly haven't even done basic research into the case

If you are handed a pill, told its tylenol and you don't check that it's cyanide and hand it to someone else, you're partially responsible. If you don't know what the fuck you're giving people then thats your problem.

You actually are such a fucking retard it is nauseating

They should have different weights, because they should have no charge. There's no reason for there to be an unfired primer in a dummy round, unless the shot specifically calls for that, which isnt the case here. The whole point of separating ammunition is this reason explicitly. I have never been on a set where live ammunition was anywhere near the prop truck. I have never heard of an armorer storing real ammunition with dummy rounds or blank rounds. They don't even keep their blank firing arms in the same location as ones that aren't used for movies. A competent armorer has all of the guns organized by their make and model, and labeled for different loads.

Dude, the issue was she was bringing live .45 rounds on set, while using blank .45 rounds for the shoot. You need to do more research.

This is so fucking simple. Just because you have some guns, or have experience with guns and have some fuckin practice rounds doesn't make you a film gun expert.

I don't have some experience it is literally my job to handle firearms

No one would use these terms interchangably because its dangerous, and they take it very seriously unlike Alec Baldwin and that fucking retard he had doing the job

You never treat a gun differently regardless of whats in it. If the armorer had been doing her job and enforcing safety standards there would have been no possibility of an accident like this. And yes people do all the fucking time you fucking autist

 

[Historical Strelkov]

You clearly haven't even done basic research into the case

My most recent acquisition in terms of bullets are 7.92 mauser rounds. I have both the live ammo rounds and dummy ones. As you know, a lot of guns don't like to be dry fired and learning the action of a rifle is important. Therefore, i have 5 dummy rounds made from the live fire rounds.
Rest assured, the heavy ass bullet of that 7.92 has a completely different weight from the dummy round, considering the weight of the charge is missing. Interestingly, I also have a ton of 45 long colt. I enjoy collecting ammunition, I'm familiar with the round.
If I picked up my Mauser, and noticed there were bullets in it, which would already be a red flag, i would immediately take the bullets out and inspect them, making sure that they were my dummy rounds before thinking about racking the bolt back, pushing it forward, and then pointing it in a persons direction and pulling the trigger. You should know how many levels of negligence would be required to have a discharge pointed in the direction of a person regardless of whatever is in the chamber. In the video you posted the real armorer and expert even mentions that "barrel down" at ground level was the safe method of holding the weapon, but the cast member is just going around with the gun pointed up, muzzle sweeping all the other actors and crew members. This is his responsibility on top of the armorer's.
I did basic research, but every time I see more extensive detail, it just confirms to another degree that both parties are liable for negligence. The armorer is way more negligent in terms of her job description, but Alec is irresponsible as a gun wielder across the board as well. Film isn't an excuse for being careless, its actually a reason to be even more careful. You don't get a pass with real firearms regardless of if youre a theater geek or a fuckin call of duty airsoft retard. This is how people get hurt.

You actually are such a fucking retard it is nauseating

You should relax, even if I'm wrong its just the internet.

Dude, the issue was she was bring live .45 rounds on set, while using blank .45 rounds for the shoot. You need to do more research.

I agree, shes a fucking retard. 100x over. I understand the industry standards and practices. But thats only her part. Alec is also responsible for various things including her job as a producer, and his negligence in regards to a firearm. He broke regular rules of firearm usage. For the gun to go off when he pulls the trigger, it requires the hammer to also be back. that is negligence. To pull the trigger while pointing at someone is negligence.

I'm not sure this is the exact model he had, but its an example of single action. I don't see how he could be any more careless.
He could have kept the gun in its holster and used a rubber prop if he wanted to do flailing and spinning moves. He could have not cocked the hammer. He could have done a shit ton of different things, so acting like he had no choice but to do what he did, and hes totally an innocent babychile is ridiculous.

Because:

You never treat a gun differently regardless of whats in it.

So true. I agree that she is the primary point of failure. The issue is that the operator is also to blame for operating the weaponry in a way that could lead to what happened. you cannot take away the fact that Alec Baldwin pulled the trigger on a gun that had to be cocked for this to happen. If he had done neither of those, or made sure not to point directly at the camera woman, none of this would have happened even with the live fire rounds.
Unless he used a double action revolver, that takes away the "safety" aspect of Single action. But, I don't believe this is the case. Feel free to correct me.

 

[Dr J]

Unless he used a double action revolver, that takes away the "safety" aspect of Single action

No, it was an SAA

 

[Historical Strelkov]

No, it was an SAA

Gotcha, AFAIK the SAA has a hammer release trigger, so for the gun to fire that means the hammer has to be manually cocked backwards. That is one action that can be called negligent in my book.
My EDC for years has been a single action revolver, and this aspect makes me feel more comfortable carrying it around loaded. Idk how striker-fired bros feel about safe action, or how 1911 fudds feel about not being able to drop the hammer after racking.

 

[themanwhowalks]

You're underplaying the role of an armorer, even people who handle firearms a lot have lapses in judgement, or forget things. There's a lot of mechanical failures that can happen that even experienced people would miss if they're distracted. She isn't the primary point of failure, she is THE point of failure. In between each take she would be handling the gun checking for malfunctions, she is the only person on set in charge of providing ammunition, she would be the one loading ammunition into the gun before takes, and for each take she is the person on set who is supposed to know right from wrong when it comes to firearms. If a shot was going to happen that she felt was unsafe, it is her job not to allow the director to film it, the guns are going to be in her control before and after every single shot.

In a perfect world everyone would handle firearms with due respect, but its really just not possible. I've seen people flag people because they were literally distracted by squirrels, I've seen people lie about being cleared at a range, and try to turn in a rifle with a live round still chambered. People fuck it up even when they aren't distracted. Actors are going to be focused on acting, the director is going to be focused on trying to get interesting footage, and both are going to forget that guns are never just props. There needs to be someone on set who is completely focused on firearm safety, and that was supposed to be her. If she had even done her job halfway -- not literally mix live and blank ammo in the same box and load live rounds into a firearm -- there would have been no casualty. If she was doing her job well, the shot would have never been done in a way where a woman was going to have a gun pointed straight at her

I do not think Baldwin is responsible. He is a faggot with shit politics, but I feel awful that he killed his co-worker... especially because it was completely preventable.

You should relax, even if I'm wrong its just the internet.

Yes sorry, I woke up with a migraine and had to basically right my whole day off.

 

[Historical Strelkov]

Yes sorry, I woke up with a migraine and had to basically right my whole day off.

Take it easy, get some hydration and something to help relax your head and neck muscles. Migraines suck.

You're underplaying the role of an armorer, even people who handle firearms a lot have lapses in judgement, or forget things.

Shes the worst part, I get your emphasis.

I do not think Baldwin is responsible. He is a faggot with shit politics, but I feel awful that he killed his co-worker... especially because it was completely preventable.

We just have to disagree on this, if we can't convince each other which is fine. I have no sympathy for actors, armorers, or anyone fucking around with weapons. But especially these liberal elite actors who want all this gun regulation, and yet treat their firearms like toys. They're part of the reason why people in California can't buy pistols off roster, or have a regular AR, or have magazines over 10 rounds. They're the reason that there's so much red tape and regulation. Yet they're also the ones fucking around like idiots with firearms. They're the ones that need all this spelled out to them. Most of the arguments I hear about how its all on the armorer, literally treat the actors like theyre fucking completely incapable of holding guns...in which case they shouldn't be holding them at all. Then you look at actors like Keanu reeves, and he's never had this problem? Clint Eastwood? Arnold? No its fuckin Alec Baldwin, the egoist.

 

[themanwhowalks]

Take it easy, get some hydration and something to help relax your head and neck muscles. Migraines suck.

I really appreciate it man. I think I got a TBI at some point lmao

No its fuckin Alec Baldwin, the egoist.

Trust me the irony doesn't escape me, God definitely has a sense of humor. And he does deserve to get shit on for being a pompous ass. I'm just sentimental about certain things I guess.

 

[MadStan]

Then you look at actors like Keanu reeves, and he's never had this problem? Clint Eastwood? Arnold? No it’s fuckin Alec Baldwin, the egoist.

You’re talking out your ass and you know it. These guys never got handed a loaded gun. If Clint’s armorer was on the set Alec wouldn’t have killed anyone. And how the fuck would you know if any of those guys ever accidentally pointed a gun at some one or pulled a trigger? You fucking don’t.

She is the difference. The armorer. Case fucking closed.

 

[Historical Strelkov]

These guys never got handed a loaded gun.

What are you talking about? Every person that operates a firearm is responsible for it. Those guys were responsible with firearms enough to not injure anyone.

If Clint’s armorer was on the set Alec wouldn’t have killed anyone. And how the fuck would you know if any of those guys ever accidentally pointed a gun at some one or pulled a trigger?

None of those guys shot anyone accidentally. Do you have any stories where they did?
What is this obsession with taking away responsibility from the man holding the gun, and putting it exclusively on the person who put the bullets in it?

 

[ForTheHoard]

"Blank" rounds and "dummy" rounds are pretty much interchangeable and your autistic insistence on their difference shows your inexperience with firearms.

Just stop.

I use dummy rounds when practicing drawing and spinning my 1886. The primer cup doesn't have to be removed, but the chemical primer in the cup has to be absent or already burned up. Some of my dummy rounds are filled with gel so the primer seat is filled with gel instead of a primer cup. This allows you to dry fire a gun that could otherwise be damaged in the process like an old revolver without a modern transfer bar. Some dummy rounds have holes drilled in the case wall. It's not a requirement.

If I used blanks, my hearing would be fucked, my dogs would be shitting, my wife would be screaming, and the local police would be pounding on my door.

 

[MetokurGroomedMe]

Alec didn't point the gun at the woman, he pointed it at a camera that the woman (and another guy) happened to be behind.

so he pointed it at the woman and another guy. people that are behind things aren't suddenly not there. one of the biggest problems with home defense is that you need to make sure you're not using a round that will penetrate the walls of your home and put other people at risk, including your own loved ones or innocent bystanders who aren't even involved in the conflict. also, that's the most semantic bullshit i've ever heard, are you a fucking redditor? "uhm ackshually he pointed it at the camera she was operating." okay, so if i point my gun at the clothing you're wearing and pull the trigger, that doesn't mean i fired the gun at you. your logic is so fucking retarded. please actually kill yourself, you are wasting oxygen people like steven bonnell could be sucking up instead.

You’re talking out your ass and you know it. These guys never got handed a loaded gun. If Clint’s armorer was on the set Alec wouldn’t have killed anyone. And how the fuck would you know if any of those guys ever accidentally pointed a gun at some one or pulled a trigger? You fucking don’t.

She is the difference. The armorer. Case fucking closed.

the best part about it is, if you handle a firearm responsibly, instead of like a nigger-brained retardfaggot, you will never even have to worry if the gun is loaded or not, as it has been shown to you in image and text multiple times. there are dozens of camera techniques that don't involve being directly behind it while a fat, balding moron points a gun at you.

if you don't point a gun at another person, you have absolutely no chance except for the most INSANE freak accident of a bullet firing without the trigger being pulled, as you are about to be fully enlightened about. to quote your favorite black man... READ, NIGGA, READ.