Alec Baldwin's 'prop firearm' kills one, injures another

Sheriff's office: Alec Baldwin discharged prop gun that killed crew member, wounded director

Baldwin is one of the film's star actors and producers. He went to the sheriff's office willingly and provided a statement to investigators, sheriff's office spokesman Juan Ríos said.

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Actor Alec Baldwin discharged a "prop firearm" that killed a cinematographer and injured a the director of the movie Rust, being filmed on a set south of Santa Fe, a county sheriff's office spokesman said late Thursday.

Halyna Hutchins, 42 and the director of photography for the movie, died at University of New Mexico Hospital in Albuquerque. The film's director, Joel Souza, was hospitalized in Santa Fe, Santa Fe County Sheriff's Office spokesman Juan Ríos said.

A source closed to the investigation said Baldwin, 63, was questioned by investigators late Thursday and was seen by a New Mexican reporter and photographer in tears.

Investigators are still trying to determine if the incident was an accident, Ríos said. No charges have been filed, and the investigation remains open, Ríos wrote in a news release.

The prop was fired at Bonanza Creek Ranch, where filming was underway, the sheriff's office said in an early evening news release. Baldwin stars in the production.

Hutchins died from her injuries after she was flown to University of New Mexico Hospital, according to the sheriff's office. Souza was taken to Christus St. Vincent Regional Medical Center, where he is receiving emergency care, the sheriff's office said. Attempts to get comment from Baldwin were unsuccessful.

“We received the devastating news this evening, that one of our members, Halyna Hutchins, the Director of Photography on a production called ‘Rust’ in New Mexico died from injuries sustained on the set,” John Lindley, the president of the International Cinematographers Guild Local 600, and Rebecca Rhine, the executive director, said in a statement, as reported by Variety. “The details are unclear at this moment, but we are working to learn more, and we support a full investigation into this tragic event. This is a terrible loss, and we mourn the passing of a member of our Guild’s family.”

Deputies were investigating how the accident occurred and "what type of projectile was discharged," the sheriff's office said in an earlier news release.

Rust Movie Productions did not immediately respond to requests for comment.

Filming for Rust was set to continue into early November, according to a news release from the New Mexico Film Office. It's described as the story of a 13-year-old boy left to fend for himself and his younger brother following the death of their parents in 1880s Kansas, with New Mexico doubling for Kansas.

Guns firing blanks have been blamed for deaths in past movie productions. Online Hollywood news site Deadline reported, "Actor Jon-Erik Hexum was killed Oct. 18, 1984, on the set of the TV series Cover Up when he accidentally shot himself in the head with a gun loaded with blanks. And in 1993, Brandon Lee, the son of martial arts legend Bruce Lee, died after he was shot in the head by a gun firing blanks on the set of The Crow. Both incidents were determined to have been accidents."

This is a developing story and will be updated.

 

[MetokurGroomedMe]

trust has got to mean something when working with others.

never heard of trust but verify, i take it?

Often in my profession I am handling equipment that will kill or take your hand or foot off very easily, and we trust the other staff when we call "Have you unplugged it?"

i'm glad you and your buddies trust each other, but clearly baldwin COULDN'T trust the dumb bitch, and as a producer, he was responsible for making sure that everyone involved with his production was qualified and ready to do their job, which she was not, as you yourself have argued.

I'd hate to have any of you niggers in my shop who sit there cocky and say "Well, you didn't actually check it yourself that I cut the gas shut off or unplugged the router before you accidentally engaged the bit, my bad, but hey, its really your fault".

i would never want to work with someone who thinks that someone making sure they aren't fucking de-handed is, what, i guess stupid for not trusting his co-workers with his own safety?

True professionals go through the checklist and check, they don't lay blame to the. next person down the road.

i totally agree, a truly professional actor would never have pointed a gun at someone and pulled the trigger, because he would have recalled that this was against the rules he was given as a SAG union member, and during his MANDATORY firearms instruction for the film. i also agree a truly professional producer wouldn't nepo-hire a retarded whore instead of someone with a proven track record.

You support the Armorer because she reflects the same negligent attitude you have,

i don't support that retarded bitch at all, she ought to suffer hard for directly being a part of that woman's death.

probably because you'd be that terrible on the set, too.

i can promise you if any armorer, even the greatest one on earth, handed me a firearm, i would never, ever point it at soemone, and if the director was demanding i would, i would either ask for the person i'm 'aiming at' to be not in the frame of the shot, or leave the production. that is not acceptable, and it's not safe. it's been shown to you that actors are instructed not to do this by both their union guide AND the mandatory firearms instruction. oh, and here's this beautiful little gem from SAG-AFTRA themselves.

As an actor, you are ultimately responsible for your own safety and the safety of your fellow cast members.
"Production management and crew are responsible for creating and maintaining safe conditions, but it is your right and responsibility to double check the set up to ensure your own safety."

You, nor the Armorer ont he set of Rust are worth a bucket of shit because all you want to do is pass the blame,

i'm not passing any blame. i'm laying it at the feet of the two people, producer and actor alec baldwin, and armorer hannah gutierrez-reed. these are the two people involved in the extreme negligence that led to the death of halyna hutchins. the armorer was, as the SAG themselves say, responsible for making a safe environment (as was alec by their own rules, the PRODUCER is the highest level of production management) but he was the one who was meant to ensure and hold final responsibility for ensuring his own safety, and the safety of others while he was handling a firearm. he did not. negligence. a woman died because of it, manslaughter.

there is nothing more to say on this matter because you have had it explained to you in terms a child could understand why both of them are culpable in one of them handed a loaded gun to the other, and then that other deciding to point a gun and shoot it at someone else. two separate moments where it didn't have to happen, and neither person took the appropriate measures, and now a woman is dead.

edit: i just saw you add this to your fucking post

True professionals know the rules of "never point a gun even if it is unloaded" is for the stupid people, the untrustworthy people.

and i'm not sure how much more retarded you can actually be. you have convinced me now that you actually do not know anything about what you are saying, and that it's fully safe to completely disregard everything you've said here as the insane screeching of a pants-shitting moron. you're defending baldwin because you actually don't know a single everloving thing about guns.

 

[MadStan]

At the end of it all, the armorer is in jail, and the next in the custody line (Halls) got a suspended sentence and and Alec isn't going to jail or being found guilty. And for many that sits right where we think it should all be.

For all others, you'll never be satisfied with any defense for Alec no matter the logic, and we as his defenders will never be satisfied with him being culpable, no matter the logic.

What is really, really important is that I am still 100% correct prediction on lawsuits on this site, and user X Prime loves me and will send flowers for my wake when I drop dead of a fat-induce heart attack.

And that, feels about right. kiss kiss to the Alec haters, you've been butt fucked. For those who weren't actually watching the suit and progress of this investigation since the start and didn't see Alec walking, I'll quote you something:

"There is something to be learned from a rainstorm. When meeting with a sudden shower, you try not to get wet and run quickly along the road. But doing such things as passing under the eaves of houses, you still get wet. When you are resolved from the beginning, you will not be perplexed, though you still get the same soaking. This understanding extends to everything."

 

[Stoneheart]

...Because she was the armorer, are you legitimately retarded

I was talking about that rapper in Georgia when i said young nigger-

 

[MetokurGroomedMe]

At the end of it all, the armorer is in jail, and the next in the custody line (Halls) got a suspended sentence and and Alec isn't going to jail or being found guilty. And for many that sits right where we think it should all be.

For all others, you'll never be satisfied with any defense for Alec no matter the logic, and we as his defenders will never be satisfied with him being culpable, no matter the logic.

What is really, really important is that I am still 100% correct prediction on lawsuits on this site, and user X Prime loves me and will send flowers for my wake when I drop dead of a fat-induce heart attack.

And that, feels about right. kiss kiss to the Alec haters, you've been butt fucked. For those who weren't actually watching the suit and progress of this investigation since the start and didn't see Alec walking, I'll quote you something:

"There is something to be learned from a rainstorm. When meeting with a sudden shower, you try not to get wet and run quickly along the road. But doing such things as passing under the eaves of houses, you still get wet. When you are resolved from the beginning, you will not be perplexed, though you still get the same soaking. This understanding extends to everything."

mad nigger with no response to anything i said, the pedophile you love will never even know you exist. but i will, and i'll always know what a massive retard you were.

 

[ZipDisk]

The backstage link I posted is better than the SAG rules because they take the authorative mask off. There are at least ten competing "standards" for firearm safety on sets, and none of them are mandatory or binding. They are taken as suggestions, and as this case clearly shows, flat out ignored when convenient.

People keep saying Alec Baldwin should have been charged with negligent manslaughter - he was.
The reason the case was dismissed is not because "the fix is in" or "democrat politics always win"

Its prosecutorial misconduct based on the jury being empaneled. The trial was in the shit or get off the pot phase. Had the Prosecutor pulled this shit BEFORE empanelment, she likely would have got away with it, with of course, a major delay for the evidence to be evaluated by the defense.

Honestly, all the "How responsible is Baldwin" shit is out the window because of prosecutorial misconduct, but a lot of you fuckers don't want to walk past page one.

Everything about this case happened because of stupid unqualified fuckups in positions of power that require intelligence. And it's weird that it repeated.

 

[Local Farmer]

After todays events is anyone sure what Alec Baldwins current location is?

 

[MetokurGroomedMe]

Honestly, all the "How responsible is Baldwin" shit is out the window because of prosecutorial misconduct, but a lot of you fuckers don't want to walk past page one.

i'm arguing from a moral or ethical standpoint. i don't care what some faggot judge or a faggot prosecutor fucked up. i care what actually happened in real life, not the technicalities on paper. alec baldwin is absolutely guilty of negligent homicide, and the fact that he got off on a technicality is a great injustice. i put the blame for that on the prosecutor, and i put the blame for the death of the cinematographer on baldwin and the armorer. i don't care about what some faggot piece of paper says. i care about how i, as an actual human being, can look at a situation and form my own opinion on it in disagreement of other people or the things they choose to do.

why are you guys so obsessed with people accepting the legal verdict? is anyone here saying 'NO HE WAS FOUND GUILTY FUCK YOU'? no, they're not, they're arguing that alec baldwin is at fault, because he is at least partially at fault, and easily could have prevented it from ever happening in the first place if he simply hadn't pointed the gun.

 

[ZipDisk]

I find legal shit interesting, and this was a very brazen fuckup beyond the pale.

The shooting itself is a tragedy, but we're at 111 pages here dude. I don't think anyone holds Baldwin harmless in the slightest, but the bitch who caused the shit is convicted and in prison.

She of course is going for another bite at the apple because of this fuckup, and I hope they give her more prison time, but they probably won't.

As to Alec Baldwin being held accountable, he's going to be absolutely bent over and fucked in civil court. His prior agreement is out the window because New Mexico pulled the money from the production that Baldwin was using as weregild.

I get it, you want the husband to be handed a revolver with the remaining rounds in it and be allowed to fire on Baldwin and the fat bitch. That's not going to happen.

 

[MetokurGroomedMe]

I don't think anyone holds Baldwin harmless in the slightest

At the end of it all, the armorer is in jail, and the next in the custody line (Halls) got a suspended sentence and and Alec isn't going to jail or being found guilty. And for many that sits right where we think it should all be.

And that, feels about right. kiss kiss to the Alec haters, you've been butt fucked.

no there are people on THIS PAGE who think he shouldn't be in jail. that's why i called him retarded.

As to Alec Baldwin being held accountable, he's going to be absolutely bent over and fucked in civil court.

this is what i'm hoping for because i truly think he deserves repercussions. not DEATH or being made destitute, he didn't burn down an orphanage, it was one person. but it was still someone who mattered, and there should be some sort of recompense. i don't think that's crazy or asking a lot. i want people who do things to be held accountable, just like the dumbass armorer is being held accountable. baldwin is still responsible for having pointed and shot a fucking gun at someone, not to mention his role as the producer meaning he should never have allowed that dumb bitch to be hired, thus putting HER fuckups back on him. and he should be paying for that in a literal way.

i also don't want alec baldwin to be killed or even made destitute over this. it's not about fucking alec baldwin, you retards, it's anger at the system obviously fucking around and ANOTHER rich faggot getting off scott free for something you or i would be incarcerated for. it's bullshit, and sometimes, i'm just mad that we live in a bullshit world.

I get it, you want the husband to be handed a revolver with the remaining rounds in it and be allowed to fire on Baldwin and the fat bitch. That's not going to happen.

as funny as it would be, no. i don't think people should get the right to kill other people for one negligent homicide. an eye for an eye makes the whole world go blind.

 

[AnOminous]

Now in civil court? He's gonna get fucked.

There's going to be plenty of civil liability to go around.

 

[Not A Cat Person]

I can't reply to MetokurGroomedMe but he keeps going on about the SAG rules and regulations and I honestly have to say I don't give a single fuck what the Film Actors' Guild Society or whatever pozzed Californian theatre kid union has to say about guns or gun safety.

The armorer's there to make sure that when retarded Hollywood actors wave guns around, that the guns are safe. Alec Baldwin hired some newbie danger-hair lib chick to be the armorer. For that, he should ultimately be guilty. Not for being an actor waving a prop gun around that the armorer told him was safe.

 

[Historical Strelkov]

Dr J, that is EXACTLY what the problem was. Guttierez-Reed had blanks that were visibly indistinguishable from the actual rounds

That doesn't make sense.
Blanks do not look like real bullets. They usually are crimped shells, and have no lead penetrator.

the rounds on set were live rounds that were drilled into to make inert, literally indistinguishable visually from live ammunition when loaded

You're confusing blanks with dummy rounds, that can have the lead penetrator on the front, but contain no charge. These are usually empty casings with spent primers or inert ones.

All these people going on about how Alec Baldwin should have been following gun safety rules of not ever ever pointing a gun at someone are really being unrealistic

The fuck does unrealistic mean? The standard for wielding arms magically changes because an actor is a retard? Fuck that.

No, Alec Baldwin's crime wasn't pointing a prop gun at someone.

Yes it was. and its not a "prop" gun, its a REAL FUCKING GUN. Prop just refers to anything that an actor uses in a scene, like what is in their hands in a scene. Things like nightsticks, and ammunition webbing.

They also have to ignore the "never point the weapon at anything you do not intend to destroy" because that would fuck up the camera angles.

No it wouldn't. You don't have to be behind a camera to operate it. This is pure ignorance. You can control almost every aspect of a camera remotely. The Venice 2 even has a system that allows you to detach the sensor and lens from the camera.



You may think everyone in Hollywood is a gormless idiot because of the DEI tards who are given bullshit jobs, but the tech is smartly designed. No one has to fuck up as bad as Alec did on that stupid movie he was making.

The backstage link I posted is better than the SAG rules because they take the authorative mask off.

What the fuck is this bullshit.

There are at least ten competing "standards" for firearm safety on sets, and none of them are mandatory or binding. They are taken as suggestions, and as this case clearly shows, flat out ignored when convenient.

Nope. Everyone follows essentially the same rules, since most of the people involved are in the same guilds, unions, or work for the same vendors. Unless of course, you're a criminally negligent idiot.

The law they just passed just re-iterates the way weapons are used on sets already. You could literally call up a prop house and ask them to confirm this for you.

 

[Atomic Ant]

What is really, really important is that I am still 100% correct prediction on lawsuits on this site

it was dropped due to prosecutorial misconduct you unrepentant halfwit homo. you did not predict that. You got lucky, and justice got unlucky.

 

[themanwhowalks]

You're confusing blanks with dummy rounds, that can have the lead penetrator on the front, but contain no charge. These are usually empty casings with spent primers or inert ones.

....No I'm not, I'm literally referencing the exhibits in the case.

 

[MadStan]

it was dropped due to prosecutorial misconduct you unrepentant halfwit homo. you did not predict that. You got lucky, and justice got unlucky.

I got lucky.

But a win is a win is a win. And I had little doubt he would have been found not guilty in any event, but we will never know. "Unrepentant halfwit homo" that's phonetically tight, I like it.

 

[MadStan]

I find legal shit interesting, and this was a very brazen fuckup beyond the pale.

The shooting itself is a tragedy, but we're at 111 pages here dude. I don't think anyone holds Baldwin harmless in the slightest, but the bitch who caused the shit is convicted and in prison.

She of course is going for another bite at the apple because of this fuckup, and I hope they give her more prison time, but they probably won't.

As to Alec Baldwin being held accountable, he's going to be absolutely bent over and fucked in civil court. His prior agreement is out the window because New Mexico pulled the money from the production that Baldwin was using as weregild.

I get it, you want the husband to be handed a revolver with the remaining rounds in it and be allowed to fire on Baldwin and the fat bitch. That's not going to happen.

Just a side note, the evidence withheld from the defendant's lawyers is interesting. At least from a point of view that it certainly muddies the waters as to what really happened on the set and why. Could someone have attempted to sabotage the Armorer? Knowing she was lax? It is a possibility and I find the undisclosed evidence curious at least in terms of muddying the opinion of the matter. But then again, even if sabotage had happened, it would only taken her doing half the steps she was supposed to do and it would have been prevented. She is such a moron and dangerous.

If civil litigation is to proceed to exact a toll on Baldwin, because the production company didn't make the payments promised in 2022, I'd be weary of proceeding against these lawyers. I would hope, given the criminal side is entirely settled, that Alec would be smart enough to make the payments to the widow and walk away and forget about all this and not allow it to see a day in court. Penny pinching seems like a good idea at the time until it isn't. And frankly, I am disappointed that Alec who realizes he took someones life wouldn't make exceptional efforts to see the widow was looked after 100%. Thats not a good look.

On the Armorer, I had it backwards, I thought the evidence was presented to prosecutors before her trial, but it was after it started or near the end so I don't think anything will change with her conviction and she is stuck with the sentence, unless her lawyers can prove the evidence was known about prior to the initial trial presentation.

 

[Iron Hamster]

Looks like he dodged a bullet.

 

[Historical Strelkov]

....No I'm not, I'm literally referencing the exhibits in the case.

Can you link?

 

[themanwhowalks]

Can you link?

Best video on the case.

 

[Historical Strelkov]

Best video on the case.

"They learned...the dummy ammunition".