Elliot Page / Ellen Page - Former actress, starred in Juno. Turned into a pooner and divorced her wife because being a lesbian was not boosting her career anymore. Receives a daily dose of asspatting from Hollywood. Likes to show off her "male" body using fake abdominals.

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Wasn’t Page slated to be one of the biggest names in Hollywood after Juno? Feels like stock has fallen HARD.
I liked her as for every blockbuster she was in she’d do a couple of low budget/indie films and attach her name to them to give a bit back to up and coming artists.

Seems all that molestation she covered up and failed to name names in her book utterly scrambles her brains.
 
Didnt Juno or Hard Candy have her in a Red Beanie?
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Hearing her voice now sends me into near manic laughter every time. It's really limited her range acting too, because she has to try hard to maintain even that horrible frog voice, she can't really act with her voice at all. She looks like an end stage cancer patient who is in the process of deciding whether or not it's worth continuing to be pumped full of radioactive chemicals.

(I really hate the current obsession with multiverse, timelines, and duh world is ending! plots. They're so lame. They don't know how to make character truly engaging and it feels like they try to make up for that by having the plot be super over the top. Even cape stuff doesn't need world ending plots, just a fun villain to the hero face off against.)
 
Ehh, the show was fine on the first season, but it goes to a really different direction from the comics. To be honest, it would be a mess to be faithful to the source, the comics are weird (in a good way for me, I'm a fan). Vanya was the character that, in my opinion, was changed the most, even in first season. Right now it barely resembles the original material.

Vanya becomes paralyzed and near-amnesiac, I understand how it isn't applied in the show: 1. some spergs would cry ableism somehow, 2. Ellen was the most recognizable actor in the show, to make her be a near vegetable wouldn't be good.
They mixed the storylines of the first two volumes to make the first season and were left with little material afterwards. The third volume was released after the show was announced iirc.
Vanya could be so much more than a whining piece of shit but Ellen's transition was just a big part of the problem. The showrunners also wasted her potential here.
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I don't know if Gerard is giving them details of the upcoming volumes, probably he is. Sometimes he takes years to publish something because of his work in the Young Animals imprint (which he co-founded), writing for other comics (Doom Patrol and he is the creator of Peni Parker) aand also the comics of MCR's last album The True Lives of the Fabulous Killjoys, which he released a few years ago the original idea (the story of the studio album was supposed to be just a comic). And before the pandemic lockdown started the band came back and they were on tour (and the tour restarted after the pandemic). That means: Gerard is really busy and there aren't plenty of material for showrunners to use.
I'm going to watch season 4 anyway because I like to finish what I started, but gosh it's going to be painful.
 
We go to chapter 16, "Speedo". This is going to be a creepy one, so bear with me. After that horrible situation with Ellen seething about her lover having a boyfriend. We go back to the past again. We have a 10 year old Ellen having to deal with growing up as a girl, she gets sad because she is not gonna play with the boys anymore at football. She has to go with the girls, and of course, she didn't liked that one bit.

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Then she describes the situation as humilliating when she had to clarify that she was actually a girl to play in the girls team, having the referee apparently smiling in a smug way on her. Because apparently every adult in this book is an asshole to child Ellen that doesn't seem to accept her whining.

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Then, the drama of naturally growing up rapidly became a huge concern for her. She had her first period when she was snowboarding with her father, so I guess that part of being relatable falls apart as well, describing it as a "robot leaking".

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And also started whining about using tampons or pads because she did not wanted to use this for the rest of her life, guess what, Ellen? Is not like other women like using it. And apparently that was enough for her to have a fullblown crisis, when she was fucking 10. Even starting to imagine the situation when she wasn't fully developed yet, which is weird.

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But not everything was terrible, she met a kid of his age that would help her go through this period of her life. The name being Tim, she met him because his father was a wise man in football advice.

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She started playing football with him and more of his friends, one time, when they were playing, Tim's father bring up a pool. So they all could swim together, but the problem was, Ellen did not have a bathing suit.

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But hey, don't worry! Her new best friend's father had a bathing suit of Tim just for her, a MALE bathing suit.

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This is getting a little creepy, what the hell?

Here's having a seething about using the straps for a bathing suit. Look at how she describes the Speedos.

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She closed herself in the bathroom to try the new Speedos, and look at this, she was actually so small during that time that she had to climb to the toilet and stand on tiptoe so she could look herself into the mirror. :story: Just how much of a midget she is? But apparently, this was enough for her to get happy.

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She was happier than ever during that moment of time. She felt like one of the boys with those new friends, and apparently that was enough for her.

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She then talks about the first time she has seen Speedos in person. When she was in her mom's friend farm, she seen that the uncle of the family, named Kyle, also wear those speedos. Now it's getting REALLY creepy.

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It doesn't help the fact that she describes the man as "very gay". This seems like the only trait she seems to remember from him, Ellen describes him like he was some kind of exotic animal.

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She had some adventures in that farm, she loved a old pig from the farm, called Mabel. And describes some of the task she did during her stance in the farm.

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But another episode of le cruel bigots started after this, when Ellen and the family went to a amusement park called Rainbow Valley. After describing the body of the uncle in a totally not creepy way. A group of teenagers called the uncle a faggot, and she obviously felt insulted by it.

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And this apparently hit the uncle too, because after taking that ride, they all called quits and went home.

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And now we go back to the hypothetical present, the moment when our little dood posted that pic of her showing her totally buff body with implants. She was more comfortable than ever using swim trunks.

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We end the chapter with her describing a moment she had with her friend in LA. She swim and swim, and felt full empowered by just having her body exposed.

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This was a painful one to read, good lord.
 
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"With this body that feels my own." Sure, Ellen - It's your own body; and you have the receipts to prove it.

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The above post by @Paper Machete is remarkable for two reasons: The first is that describing Ellen as looking like an end stage cancer patient who is deciding to discontinue treatment is perfectly accurate. The second is for the fact that she will somehow, eventually manage to look even worse.
 
forget how Page can use his big influence to try to ruin other people that have nothing to do with her,
But not everything was terrible, she met a kid of his age that would help her go through this period of his life.
Page's pronouns are inconsistent here. Haven't read the other posts.

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Page's puberty seemed alienating and poorly handled. The coming of age of puberty is where one discovers their self, their soul; developing what individuates them from the forces that control them (Page's reference to the robot bleeds). For many, this is a tumultuous but ultimately healthy time; for Page, evidently it was a traumatic time of cognitive dissonance at her already identifying her soul inflexibly with her masculine pre-pubescent identity*; asserting she already knew/knows herself. A sense of pride (as opposed to meekness/humility), and a sense of knowing oneself (as opposed to evermore discovering oneself), are unfortunate psychological impairments at any age; they impair the healthy development of the person-persona and reality-firmament divides, while instilling an ignorance-coda, such disables the natural adaptive error-correction mechanism one has to cognitive-dissonance leaving only maladaption. Oprah espoused such nonsense in that interview with Page with the schizophrenic equivocation "your own truth", and authors like Brene Brown who Oprah also touts, all perpetuate this industry of shame-eviction at-all-costs. It's so sad, there is so much struggle, but so little philosophy; so all these fools get swept up in cargo cult politics and ruin so many lives.

*Referring to Page's prepubescence as masculine can be a surprise to American English speakers, however the reason why masculine pronouns in (Non-American) English are the gender-neutral pronouns is not due to sexism, but because females functionally are the same as males with a single exception, females can do something men can't do that is to be with child, and as such the feminine pronouns are exclusive to the expressions that adaptively emerge from this unique capability, whereas masculine gender pronouns are suitable for both sexes. This isn't a judgement. Relationships without active children are innately functionally and symbolically homosexual/homophilic, be it from same-sex, from barrenness, from contraception, from prepubescence, or from menopause; hence their inherent risk of evading values of sustainable civil legacy (inevitable family from functionally heterosexual relationships), and adopting hedonistic ephemerality which lends itself to the rampant depravity of pride-marches; which is why grandchildren relationships are so important to the disposable and symbolic homosexual masculinity of grandparents. American English became naive to this as their variant of English is one built on mass-immigration rather than of a privileged education. This black-or-white, man-or-woman, faux-dichotomy within the American perspective (which is conflated with the real male-or-female binary) we can see as a cause of pain for Page and so many transgenders. Using female-to-male rather than female-to-man is exemplary of such confusion.

Another cause of pain that is more recent, is the failure of popular discourse to seperate extrinsic identity and intrinsic identity. If person A calls person B an asshole or a man, we learn nothing actually bout person B, we only learn person A's personification of person B. As such, extrinsic gender is up the beholder. When we read the classics of the humanities, we see this enumerably, for instance, Proust would ponder that homosexual bottoms actually function as faux-women in how they relate to himself and their lovers, appropriating feminine pronouns situationally, irrespective of their intrinsic identities. The conflation of extrinsic identity for only intrinsic identity is not just an individual neurosis but also a societal neurosis at this point.

Another foundational issue observable in many transgenders is their failure to seperate their other-attraction with their self-attraction. It seems this may occur from a failure to find/develop a self-gender-image-role-model to work towards, and as such they despise their own gender and wish to become their other-attraction instead; ignoring the sexual binary; in a transgender of this type, what would otherwise be an apathetic or philic relationship to one's own gender, becomes disgust/phobic instead. There is also some crossover here with homophilic individuals. Page's own sexual metamorphosis disharmonised from exploitative sexual role models upon a girl protagonist, mirror's Kafka's Metamorphose which focused on the disharmony of oversocialised breadwinning breadwinning upon a boy protagonist; or to a lesser extent, Hesse's Prodigy.

It's a tragedy that instead of edifying the children with philosophy which would save them from lives of so much suffering; we instead make it illegal to question their psychological impairments and complexes, because the adults setting the rules are so hyper-specialised and over-socialised they don't know better, and in the end the children who hopefully still become adults suffer.
 
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But hey, don't worry! Her new best friend's father had a bathing suit of Tim just for her, a MALE bathing suit.

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This is getting a little creepy, what the hell?

Here's having a seething about using the straps for a bathing suit. Look at how she describes the Speedos.

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She closed herself in the bathroom to try the new Speedos, and look at this, she was actually so small during that time that she had to climb to the toilet and stand on tiptoe so she could look herself into the mirror. :story: Just how much of a midget she is? But apparently, this was enough for her to get happy.

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She was happier than ever during that moment of time. She felt like one of the boys with those new friends, and apparently that was enough for her.

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She then talks about the first time she has seen Speedos in person. When she was in her mom's friend farm, she seen that the uncle of the family, named Kyle, also wear those speedos. Now it's getting REALLY creepy.
All of these weird descriptions of guys in speedos makes me think that Ellen isn't as much of a lesbian as she previously claimed.
 
All of these weird descriptions of guys in speedos makes me think that Ellen isn't as much of a lesbian as she previously claimed.
That was my first thought as well, it just felt so weird reading how Ellen describes the body of a man when she was like 8, and also didn't feel at all right when she was describing as a minor being with the chest exposed, it was really disturbing reading all of this.

This is what Ellen was like when she was writing this part of the book.

 
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