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https://news.sky.com/story/row-over-new-greggs-vegan-sausage-rolls-heats-up-11597679

A heated row has broken out over a move by Britain's largest bakery chain to launch a vegan sausage roll.

The pastry, which is filled with a meat substitute and encased in 96 pastry layers, is available in 950 Greggs stores across the country.

It was promised after 20,000 people signed a petition calling for the snack to be launched to accommodate plant-based diet eaters.


But the vegan sausage roll's launch has been greeted by a mixed reaction: Some consumers welcomed it, while others voiced their objections.

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#VEGANsausageroll thanks Greggs

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Cook and food poverty campaigner Jack Monroe declared she was "frantically googling to see what time my nearest opens tomorrow morning because I will be outside".

While TV writer Brydie Lee-Kennedy called herself "very pro the Greggs vegan sausage roll because anything that wrenches veganism back from the 'clean eating' wellness folk is a good thing".

One Twitter user wrote that finding vegan sausage rolls missing from a store in Corby had "ruined my morning".

Another said: "My son is allergic to dairy products which means I can't really go to Greggs when he's with me. Now I can. Thank you vegans."

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The hype got me like #Greggs #Veganuary


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TV presenter Piers Morgan led the charge of those outraged by the new roll.

"Nobody was waiting for a vegan bloody sausage, you PC-ravaged clowns," he wrote on Twitter.

Mr Morgan later complained at receiving "howling abuse from vegans", adding: "I get it, you're all hangry. I would be too if I only ate plants and gruel."

Another Twitter user said: "I really struggle to believe that 20,000 vegans are that desperate to eat in a Greggs."

"You don't paint a mustach (sic) on the Mona Lisa and you don't mess with the perfect sausage roll," one quipped.

Journalist Nooruddean Choudry suggested Greggs introduce a halal steak bake to "crank the fume levels right up to 11".

The bakery chain told concerned customers that "change is good" and that there would "always be a classic sausage roll".

It comes on the same day McDonald's launched its first vegetarian "Happy Meal", designed for children.

The new dish comes with a "veggie wrap", instead of the usual chicken or beef option.

It should be noted that Piers Morgan and Greggs share the same PR firm, so I'm thinking this is some serious faux outrage and South Park KKK gambiting here.

 

[FedPostalService]

It's not really important either way because we can agree that the license is shit, I just don't remember it being required to watch ITV and Channel 4, as they were privately funded. I remember it as "any live BBC channel". I know they tried puling the old 'any live tv channel' schtick as a bullying tactic.

Either way, the BBC should be burned down, metaphorically speaking.

Channel 4 is private but still get a chunk of license fee money. Before it became utterly pozzed the BBC would cry about it as Channel 4 had both the young adult audience, so higher advertising fees than ITV and free gibbs from the licence fee.

 

[Whoopsie Daisy]

BBC News? I don't bother with it, most of the time,

It died when Charlie Stayt (RIP for real, what a guy) left. Charlie's old-school approach, dry-dead-pan dad jokes combined with Suzanna Reid's milfiness made the news interesting and enjoyable. Chuck in some Click on a Sunday and Mark Kermode ripping the shit out of any recent slop-release and it was good times.
The news should be a man in a suit, speaking the Queen's English (Fuck you, Hugh Edwards you nonce) reading the facts. Anything else is American and should be avoided. But I digress.

The other classic argument was prestige drama - the BBC makes high quality television that wouldn't get made by commercial channels. But it's not so true any more.

They made some bloody good panel shows as well; Have i got news for you, buzzcocks, question of sport, mock the week. Memba when BBC had a sense of humour? I memba.

Channel 4 is private but still get a chunk of license fee money. Before it became utterly pozzed the BBC would cry about it as Channel 4 had both the young adult audience, so higher advertising fees than ITV and free gibbs from the licence fee.

That's good info and partly explains why C4 went to shit. They used to have the 11 oclock show (ali g started there) OG Family guy, southpark and Simpsons with a bit of Father Ted thrown in.

I miss 90's TV.

 

[isalaide]

The state of the wards, the filth, overcrowding, male relatives of women using the toilets and bathrooms, blood not cleaned up, zero pain relief for women in pain after crash sections, it was like a zoo.

You must have been in along with me. I'm not even joking. I ended up texting a friend who works in that hospital in another unit/specialty to say "There's fucking blood and mucus all over these sheets, and they've just told me they won't be changed until I leave the ward. Gonna get up here and kick some arse please". Did you have the endless trails of family visitors to the other beds carrying a takeaway? That was fucking epic. I also enjoyed random dudes taking massive shits in the one toilet we had to share with five other lassies, too.
I went to school with our vet, I am absolutely certain she'd have done a tidier job on my section. Honestly the dogs have hardly any scarring and I look like I survived a run in with Freddy Kruger. I think I will get something done about it in a year or so.
I had two nice midwives across four pregnancies, and the rest were somewhere between arseholes and mental. The community midwives are fucking lunatics. Tuned to the fucking moon.
One of them tried to get me to attend 'hypnobirthing classes'. When I got over my laughter I had to explain I was not raised a West End Wendy, and I'd just have the gas and air, thanks. I'm sure some good deep breaths will distract me from the fact an eight pound kid is trying to violently exit me.
Lying in recovery post-section, hello can I have some pain relief please. 'You can have two paracetamol on the night time round'. Sure, you literally just fucking gutted me to pull two humans out of there. Give me something for a mild headache, that will do the job.
Every time I see that scene in Prometheus where Noomi Rapace is holding her insides together and crawling out of the medpod, all I can think of is that first post-catheter walk to the toilet before you've got the feeling back in your legs from the spinal. Longest fucking walk of my life. And then there was some fucking man in there and I maybe had a bit of a meltdown and they maybe moved me to a single room because I might have behaved a little bit like a nutter.
You can take the lassie out of Coatbridge et al.

 

[teriyakiburns]

In-fighting has already started.

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Angela Rayner is already being frozen out, allies fear​

To the unsuspecting onlooker, it would appear that Sir Keir Starmer is running a rather slick operation.

With his Cabinet appointed and his Downing Street team in place, a steady drumbeat of Government announcements has dominated the news agenda this week.

But just over a week into the new regime, tensions are bubbling under the surface. Allies of Angela Rayner, the Deputy Prime Minister and Housing Secretary, fear she is being “frozen out” and believe she is already being unfairly stripped of responsibilities.

Ms Rayner, directly elected by Labour members as Deputy PM and therefore unsackable, has already been identified as the biggest potential threat to Sir Keir’s authority.

The darling of the Left, she has her own power base within the party and is particularly popular among those who, like her, have come up through the ranks from the trade union movement.

A Savanta poll earlier this month showed she was by far the most popular choice among Labour voters to succeed Sir Keir. She has a powerful mandate from the membership, having been elected deputy in 2020 with more than twice as many votes in the final round as Rosena Allin-Khan, her nearest rival.

However, friends of Ms Rayner are growing concerned that her authority is being gradually and subtly undermined.

While in opposition, she had been leading one of Labour’s flagship policies, the new deal for working people, which promises to boost wages and give workers more rights.

But it is now Jonathan Reynolds, the Business Secretary, whose department will take the lead. “This probably means that the new deal will get killed off as Jonny Reynolds will want to do what is best for business, not what is best for the unions – it will be a clash,” said one Labour source.

According to party insiders, there is now growing speculation that Ms Rayner is also set to have the planning brief taken away from her after Rachel Reeves made it the focus of her first major speech as Chancellor.

“Angela has been frozen out of everything. She was sitting in the front row of a speech about her own department,” said a source.

Others point to the fact that many of Ms Rayner’s shadow cabinet team were overlooked when it came to getting jobs in the Government.

Mike Amesbury, Paula Barker and Flo Eshalomi, close allies and members of her shadow housing team, have been relegated to the backbenches. Matt Pennycook and Jim McMahon, also members of her shadow team, have been appointed as ministers in her department.

Friends of Ms Rayner are urging her to “get out there” more and take ownership of her brief. One said: “Everyone has been looking busy – Wes, Ed and Rachel have all been out there doing things. Within a few days, she is already being frozen out of stuff, having parts of her brief taken off her – it is not a great start.”

Wes Streeting used his first day as Health Secretary to declare that the NHS is “broken” and this would be his department’s official policy. He went on to hold a first round of talks with the British Medical Association, aimed at breaking the deadlock on junior doctor strikes.

Meanwhile, Ms Reeves chose the Churchill Room at the Treasury, where the creation of the NHS was announced, to deliver her maiden speech as Chancellor, and Ed Miliband, the Energy Secretary, has spent the past few days implementing a ban on North Sea oil and setting up a new net zero task force.

One issue said to be hampering Ms Rayner is that the office of the Deputy Prime Minister has not yet been defined. Nick Parrott, her chief of staff, was not able to get hold of Sue Gray, Sir Keir’s powerful chief of staff, to discuss it before election day.

But John McTernan, who was political secretary to Sir Tony Blair from 2005 to 2007, said that this should not pose a problem for her.

“Angela has got the position in the party with its own mandate and a position in the Cabinet of Deputy Prime Minister,” he said. “She has the relationships with the powerhouses at the centre of the operation – Keir, Rachel and Ed – and if you look at her department, she is at the heart of Labour’s growth agenda.”

The Telegraph understands Ms Rayner is happy with her team of ministers and will still remain closely involved with the new deal.

Meanwhile, a restructure at Labour’s campaign headquarters, which was meant to take place last week, has been delayed because David Evans, the party’s general secretary, has been unable to get the green light from Ms Gray.

“David was meant to be overseeing this but can’t start it as he hasn’t had a steer from Sue Gray about what the structure of Downing Street will look like,” said a Labour source. “He is blowing up because Sue Gray isn’t answering the phone to him.”

While some staff have been offered plum jobs in either Downing Street or government departments, dozens of others are now left in limbo. Anyone hired on a general election contract is now officially working out their notice, which was triggered on polling day.

A Labour source said: “Following the election, many members of the team have moved into government roles, meaning changes to the HQ operation. This will allow the party to support the Government on delivering its mission of national renewal.

“The restructure of the Downing Street operation has moved at pace. It would not be correct to say that this has caused frustration for senior personnel in the party.”

 

[Otterly]

Did you have the endless trails of family visitors to the other beds carrying a takeaway?

Check, yes. And the blood in the sheets and floor. Blood on floor was coated in dust in a way that showed clearly it was not fresh. Place hadn’t been cleaned properly for a long time. This isn’t unusual though these days. Ive visited a friend in hospital and gone straight back out to the shops and come back with rubber gloves, bin bags, a squirt spray bottle of ethanol and sanitiser wipes and cleaned her bed rails which had old blood all over. And the floor, which her drains were sat on. It’s a fucking disgrace, and by the time I left there I wanted to nuke the entire place from orbit. Luckily I had my own paracetamol, which I was told off for when they found it as I was leaving and frankly I unloaded on them and let them know that the entire time I’d been there asking for it not a single nurse could actually be arsed to go and get any. If I hadn’t brought it I’d have had nothing at all, after a very unpleasant section.

I also enjoyed random dudes taking massive shits in the one toilet we had to share with five other lassies, too.

Also check, yes. Did you also have men ‘accidentally’ opening the drapes around the bed?

Every time I see that scene in Prometheus where Noomi Rapace is holding her insides together and crawling out of the medpod, all I can think of is that first post-catheter walk to the toilet before you've got the feeling back in your legs from the spinal

that scene makes me cringe in a way I cannot explain. It’s truly horrendous.
rNHS needs gutting.

 

[FedPostalService]

If we were a civilised country Prince William would be ordering that Harry Kane’s family be arrested and tortured in The Tower.

 

[Whoopsie Daisy]

>Use subs, win match
>Don't use subs for an hour
>Use subs they score

Hmm. It's almost like, there's a pattern. Unlucky though, England, most of you played well. Not, holy shit we're in a final for the first time in 58 years well, but you did well. If you'd have played better you would have been immortalised.

England should gut the squad and replace it with yewf. Archie Gray is a bit of a superstar.

 

[isalaide]

If we were a civilised country Prince William would be ordering that Harry Kane’s family be arrested and tortured in The Tower.

Grossly unfair. Harry and his wife Kate used to play together in mixed kids' teams. Famously she was a better player than him.

Look, they did their best. And whoever replaces Southgate will be a sharp dose of reality for the less reasonable part of the England support. He made them into a serious team, taken seriously, as opposed to the twenty years of circus beforehand. He deserves much more respect than he gets.

 

[Friendly Primarina]

Not, holy shit we're in a final for the first time in 58 years well, but you did well.

I don't follow football but weren't England in the last Euro final? I seem to remember them losing to Italy.

 

[Whoopsie Daisy]

I don't follow football but weren't England in the last Euro final? I seem to remember them losing to Italy.

You're correct. This was the first final on foreign soil. We also lost.

 

[isalaide]

Ive visited a friend in hospital and gone straight back out to the shops and come back with rubber gloves, bin bags, a squirt spray bottle of ethanol and sanitiser wipes and cleaned her bed rails which had old blood all over. And the floor, which her drains were sat on.

After the first rodeo, I brought a spray bottle of Flash with Bleach and Clinell wipes every time. The amount of blood on the beds should give pause for thought.

If I hadn’t brought it I’d have had nothing at all, after a very unpleasant section.

O SNAP. Husband said to me, you need to get discharged ASAP before that wound gets infected. Surprise: the wound got infected and I got readmitted. Pissed does not begin to cover it. At least at home I had cocodamol and a fucking clean place to shower. A CLEAN TOILET.
Related: I understand no one wants to frighten you about a section in advance, but no one in any way levelled with me about the experience of recovery from an emergency section. Even allowing for postoperative infection, the planned one was much more straightforward.

Did you also have men ‘accidentally’ opening the drapes around the bed?

AHAHAHHA YES? This happens to other people?? I seriously fucking can't. You're lying there in early labour, barbed wire shoved somewhere unmentionable, and some rando cunt opens the curtains and just looks at you like a stunned donkey? You describe UK perinatal care to anyone you know who is American and they look at you like you gave birth in a barn.

 

[Overdrive]

Well at least I know for sure now that I'll be taking the missus to private or overseas providers when the time comes for her to pop out a child.

 

[Snekposter]

Her defence lawyer is the biggest fucking culprit he didn't bring in a single expert witness even though he had multiple offers. He 'praised the heroes of the NHS', and because he never raised questions at the time to certain pieces of evidence, that can't be used in an appeal.

When your choices are A: Fuck over your client or B. Piss off the NHS, which one do you choose?

Sadly, you'd be surprised how many people value their career prospects over the truth.

Well at least I know for sure now that I'll be taking the missus to private or overseas providers when the time comes for her to pop out a child.

For all the shit we get in the USA about the supposed complete lack of health care since its all private... that's straight up third world in the UK.

 

[Overdrive]

For all the shit we get in the USA about the supposed complete lack of health care since its all private... that's straight up third world in the UK.

The missus is actually from a 3rd world shithole and last year while we were out there she needed some medical treatment. All in it cost about 200 quid and from walking in (with no appointment) to leaving with everything sorted was 4-5 hours. I recently had to get a a course of steroids for a chonric illness and it took 8 days for the hospital and then GP to actually write it out for me and that was with me calling them up multiple times a day to chase it up.

Every time I've had to use or family has had to use health services in other countries it's been super easy and fast, where as nearly every NHS interaction I've had as been slow, poor quality or both at the same time.

I wish we could just have a proper go at fixing it but even the suggestion of changing how it works or is funded immediately gets you burnt at the stake.

 

[Amin Yasister]

Police in Tenerife have found a body which they believed is Jay Slater who went missing 4 weeks ago.

Now just two questions to answer.
1.) Did he fall, or was he pushed?
2.) No need for anymore searching, so what will happen to the GoFundMe money now, will it be donated to the police search teams in Tenerife?

 

[Bill Evans 45]

1) Pass
2) body repatriation and huge overblown funeral

 

[Whoopsie Daisy]

Is it right that they found his body near where his phone was last used? And if so, who were the search team; Stevie wonder, Ray Charles and Helen Keller?

 

[SimplyScrumptious]

Check, yes. And the blood in the sheets and floor. Blood on floor was coated in dust in a way that showed clearly it was not fresh. Place hadn’t been cleaned properly for a long time. This isn’t unusual though these days. Ive visited a friend in hospital and gone straight back out to the shops and come back with rubber gloves, bin bags, a squirt spray bottle of ethanol and sanitiser wipes and cleaned her bed rails which had old blood all over. And the floor, which her drains were sat on. It’s a fucking disgrace, and by the time I left there I wanted to nuke the entire place from orbit. Luckily I had my own paracetamol, which I was told off for when they found it as I was leaving and frankly I unloaded on them and let them know that the entire time I’d been there asking for it not a single nurse could actually be arsed to go and get any. If I hadn’t brought it I’d have had nothing at all, after a very unpleasant section.

Also check, yes. Did you also have men ‘accidentally’ opening the drapes around the bed?

that scene makes me cringe in a way I cannot explain. It’s truly horrendous.
rNHS needs gutting.

What the fuck
Maybe I got lucky, or maybe my hospital actually is ok for maternity- the ward was empty, one other woman in loud labour down the hallway. Clean rooms and beds, when I caved and requested epi the doctor was in within 5 mins to give it. Kept in for a night and day after and still didn’t see another woman! I was distraught that husband couldn’t stay the night with me, that was hard.

Staff came when buzzed, bathroom was clean and working.

Quite bizarre really, what you describe is what I expected lmao. Or maybe I was so delirious and off my tits from pain and sleep deprivation that my memory is pure fiction. Anyway, from what I’ve seen with the nhs in my area it was my second best experience. I hear horror stories all the time from others, very similar to yours actually.

The midwives were either young and had no idea cos they hadn’t actually had a baby, or were old and grumpy and wanted you to push through it. All expected you to immediately know how to breastfeed. House visitor was ok, although missed the fact that I was experiencing gallstones despite me telling her repeatedly on her visits that I’m in pain and something is wrong, she then left the job without telling any of her patients lmao. Tbf the paramedics and many a&e staff also missed the gallstones, no one thought to do a blood test for nearly a year so I was told anxiety & sent to counselling to deal with the ‘panic attacks’ (yaaay).

Did anyone else’s pregnancy fuck them up and give them gallstones AND kidney stones? Or am I super lucky? I laugh now but it was fucking awful.

On another more British news note, they’ve allegedly found that Jay twat.
“Near where his phone last pinged… with his phone nearby… seems to have fallen”

Sky
Search teams in Spain have found human remains in the area Jay Slater went missing, Sky News has been told - with early investigations pointing to an accident or fall in an "inaccessible area" in the village of Masca



Husband pointed out that certain people wait until targets are out of the country. They favour ones with corrupt police and vast landscape like this. YT commenters still screeching that people shouldn’t be memeing and making jokes and it’s cruel lol.

 

[COMMI3 MARK]

“Near where his phone last pinged… with his phone nearby… seems to have fallen”

Yeah right, and Madeleine McCann was under the bed the whole time.

 

[AssignedEva]

Is it right that they found his body near where his phone was last used? And if so, who were the search team; Stevie wonder, Ray Charles and Helen Keller?

The last place he stayed is Casa Abuela Tina en Masca, Calle el Turrón, 53, Masca, 38489 Buenavista del Norte
He left Playa de Las Americas shortly after 6AM with a guy called Ayub Qassim and another man, possibly because he lost his hotel room key (Ayub claims to have vaguely known Jay although wasn't friends - Ayub previous has dealt drugs in South Wales as part of County Lines). This is actually only about a 45 minute drive (38km/23 miles). They get a drink at a café and carry on. They arrive in Masca at around 7AM, he posted his last Snapchat at 7:30 AM. There's a bus stop directly outside, although it doesn't have any information about buses.

He seems to try and leave half an hour later at 8AM. He speaks to a woman who explains there's no bus for another two hours, 10 AM, and does so by miming ten with her hands. Worth noting the Spanish lady is the sister of the man who owns the AirBnB.

At approximately 8am, Jay spoke to a local woman about the bus timetable. The lady, called Ofelia Medina Hernandez, told MailOnline that Jay had asked her about buses back to Los Cristianos outside the rental property. She explained to him that the next bus was in two hours time at 10am, but was unsure if he understood her.

"I held up my fingers on my hands to say 10am as he didn't understand me then I went home briefly before driving up the mountain to Buenavista del Norte, but this time I saw him walking on the road out of the village," she said. "It was no more than 10 or 15 minutes after I had spoken to him and he was about a kilometre from the house. I drove past him and that's the last I saw him."

Qasam claims he also spoke to Jay, having been woken up by people telling him to move his car, and seeing the woman mime ten at him. Allegedly he tried to discourage Jay from leaving and Jay insisted the buses came every 10 minutes and he wanted to "go get some scran".

Mr Qassim saw Jay speaking to the woman at the bus stop. He was awoken by the sound of the door buzzing and a man and woman gestured to him that he needed to move his car. Detective Mark explained yesterday: "Qassim gets into his car and starts to move it, and he looks in the rearview mirror and sees Jay talking to a woman. Jay had his trainers on, as if he was about to leave and told Qassim that the woman had said he could get a bus 'every 10 minutes'.

"Qassim said to him 'Mate, just chill out I'll drop you off in town when I wake up properly'. Jay said 'Nah, nah, nah, I'm hungry, I need some scran'. Qassim said he replied: 'There's no bus coming. This is my green door, if you need me'. He then shuts the door, Jay walks away and Qassim goes back to sleep. He then says he gets a call from a friend of Jay's who says he's in a ditch somewhere and has been cut by a cactus."

The woman claims she saw him about a kilometre from the house about 15 minutes later (so about 8:15-8:20?) but in the opposite direction to where he was trying to get to, heading North. That's right about where the road starts getting twisty and doubling back on himself. Also, the road is narrow and has no pavement.

It's around this time he seems to phone his friend who heard him "sliding on gravel" and had gone off road.

"He was on the phone and he goes: 'I've got walk and go all down that road'", Brad recalled, adding that Jay had promised to video call him back but ended the call as "someone else was ringing him." Brad said Jay, being street-smart, would have avoided the road he mentioned during their call and would have chosen a safer route instead. The teenager shared that he could hear the sound of Jay's feet sliding on the rocks, indicating to him that his mate had "went off the road.. That's how I knew he went off the road because, you know when you walk on gravel, or whatever it is, you can... you know what I mean, stones. He was on the phone walking down a road and he'd gone over a little bit - not a big drop - but a tiny little drop and he was going down, and he said 'I'll ring ya back, I'll ring ya back' because I think someone else was ringing him. "If he was thinking like me, he would have gone back up and started walking on the path again... He wouldn't have gone all that way down there." Isla queried, "You said you could see his feet and he was sort of sliding down the hill?" Brad responded, "Yeah, that's how I knew he went off the road because I could hear like when you walk on gravel... stones." A body found in Tenerife thought to be Jay Slater A body found in Tenerife thought to be Jay Slater ( Image: Instagram) Isla asked: "Were you concerned at that point?" He answered: "Not at the time because we were both laughing and he said, 'Look where I am' and I was like, 'I've just come out of a festival' and he didn't seem concerned on the phone until we knew how far away he was. I said, 'Put your location on and he said 'a 15 minute drive or a 14 hour walk, I don't know if it's accurate or not' and I said, 'If it's only a 15 minute drive, get a taxi'."

Lucy claimed he'd rung her around this time as well and he said he'd cut his leg on a cactus. So he seemingly went off road.
The final ping at about 8:50 is from near to the Barranco Juan Lopez trail:

It's not actually that far at all, but this region is very treacherous. But a British teenager who's not used to the landscape being treacherous or being more than a 40 minute walk to the nearest town, in a region where GPS is unreliable and too wankered to use his phone properly (it's only a couple of hours since they'd left the club, and he'd carried on drinking)? I could see him cutting across that bend off road, and then when reaching the road again deciding he'd carry on "off road".

The Guardia Civil appear to have released a video of where they'd been searching:

Yeah despite all the suspiciousness and links to drug dealers (and some sort of stolen Rolex?) this could very easily be an accidental fall.