Megathread SRS and GRS surgeons and associated horrors - the medical community of experimental surgeons, the secret community of home butchers

[Fapcop]

Okay.
Okay.
I know troons are gross and treat "hygiene" like a tool of oppression but even if you aren't actively inspecting your festering, patchwork flesh hole, if a whole chunk of flesh is rotting off SURELY you must smell it.
Even over the smell of BO, feces and filth the sour smell of death tends to rise above all else.

Half of these sickos are into wearing diapers.

Surely you’re not surprised that their olfactory nerves have committed suicide a long time ago?!

 

[UselessRubberKeyboard]

I am a transgender woman in the UK and I had a peritoneal pull-through vaginoplasty 3 years ago at the Kamol Hospital in Thailand. My surgery results were bad.

Why should the NHS pay to fix this? He managed to get enough cash together for a trip to Thailand for the dick chop, but not enough to pay for stable housing or any form of healthcare afterwards. Dude really thought he’d fly home and carry on like nothing happened, living a duck-free best life?

The only thing I’m annoyed about is his mate paying his rent. Poor friend, being taken advantage of. It’s been three years since this bloke had his duck filleted and still he hasn’t managed to get stable housing. The guy’s a lost cause at this point.

These are the types of people I wish the NHS could tell to piss off. Dude did this all to himself for fun, there’s no reason why everyone else should pay to fix his mistakes.

 

[Peaches Demure]

Lmfao what? No. Clits enlarge when you’re horny but they don’t feel like they’re going to “burst out of your vulva” Why the fuck are they lying to them like this? thats clearly not normal.

Some more hilarity from the morning wood thread:

"Sounds like phantom limb syndrome it should pass after a bit more time."

No, you see, the nerves from the severed penis aren't "left open", they're rearranged into a clitoris, and the brain will recognize it as such rewire itself!

I'm becoming more and more convinced that most troons are certifiably insane. Not just "disturbed" (since we know that already) but meeting the criteria of clinical psychosis.

 

[SpaceAce]

No, you see, the nerves from the severed penis aren't "left open", they're rearranged into a clitoris, and the brain will recognize it as such rewire itself!

I love this logic, it's such magical thinking.
They really think the body's nerves are like tv antenna that you have to wiggle juuust right to pick up the station you want.
Your nerves aren't sentient and can't figure out that you turned you dick into origami, thus rewiring themselves to better suit the shape you gave it.

Did you know if you pluck out your eyes and have someone paint them green before putting them back in your head your body will think they were always green and they'll change to that colour after they heal?

 

[TheCakeIsALie]

Usually, I’m grateful for medical advancements and achievements, but this is one of the few times where I wish we weren’t. You have to be 100 shades of delusional/disgusting to willingly let someone chop up your genitals and then even more disgusting to be the person with at least some sense of intelligence to perform these types of surgeries.

Medical professionals get some kind of gratitude or relief knowing they saved a patient, or to help someone. Even if it’s routine/mundane stuff like giving a baby a vaccine or prescribing antibiotics so little Tommy with strep doesn’t get rheumatic fever.

How anyone could get satisfaction out of creating artificial holes and performing elective procedures for no other reason then muh gender dysphoria is beyond me. AND then believe that this artificial hole is as just as good as a vulva/vagina, on both the surgeon and the troons side.

 

[assigned Karen at birth]

Pretty much the exact same thing I said out loud.
I don't know if he's been a criminal in his life and maybe I would want to cut off his penis if I knew.
But that aside, does it look bad enough to cut off? No, it looks standard.
He's asking if his dick is ugly because it isn't, then he never ask if his soul is ugly cuz it is.
narc

Meh. Circumcised dicks make me sad to look at. The head looks so weathered and callused, like a guitar player's index finger. I'd love to see a study on what percentage of stinkditch owners were circumcised. Anecdotally, the intact guys I've spoken to about their penises seem so grateful for their foreskins that I can't imagine they'd be as easily convinced to destroy the whole dick as a guy whose parents screwed his up when he was born. But until some brave dick scientist starts collecting this data, the answer to my question will remain in the realm of autistic speculation.

Also lol fat.

 

[glass_houses]

I know it’s an obvious point right now but it’s still baffling to me that women are telling these men that this in anyway like being female. I drank at least some or the Kool-aid before peaking but I would never outright lie to someone about this.

At this point, I believe that there are three categories of users on these boards. The first are handmaidens, and either through youthful ignorance or genuine stupidity, they deliberately ignore what little they know about biology in order to be "good allies", and will say just about any bullshit in order to be supportive and affirming. The second are other troons, who are either raging morons or suffering from a serious case of crab bucket syndrome.

The third category? Good, old fashioned, true and honest trolls.

How anyone could get satisfaction out of creating artificial holes and performing elective procedures for no other reason then muh gender dysphoria is beyond me. AND then believe that this artificial hole is as just as good as a vulva/vagina, on both the surgeon and the troons side.

So, here's the thing: a lot of people in the medical field do indeed genuinely want to help others and make the world better in some way. There are also many individuals who are highly intelligent, like money, and dislike boredom and enter medicine for a challenging and lucrative career.

However, just like an alarming number of successful CEOs and politicians have highly sociopathic and narcissistic traits, there are a significant number of people who enter medicine because they get off on having the power of life and death over other human beings. To a certain extent, this can be a positive career trait: you have to absolutely sure of yourself, your skills and authority if you want to cut people open for a living. But if you're a complete narcissist, and you're in it for the money and the power of life and death over others, and the entire medical field is in absolute disarray because of internal and external politics... yeah, this is when intelligent, charismatic monsters get away with butchery for shits, giggles, and lots and lots of money.

 

[Bloo]

Some more hilarity from the morning wood thread:

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"Sounds like phantom limb syndrome it should pass after a bit more time."

No, you see, the nerves from the severed penis aren't "left open", they're rearranged into a clitoris, and the brain will recognize it as such rewire itself!

I'm becoming more and more convinced that most troons are certifiably insane. Not just "disturbed" (since we know that already) but meeting the criteria of clinical psychosis.

The complete misinformation. Wtf do they think nerves are? They don’t slot together like electronics. “Nerve endings left open” what?

 

[Conspiracy Mawile]

How anyone could get satisfaction out of creating artificial holes and performing elective procedures for no other reason then muh gender dysphoria is beyond me. AND then believe that this artificial hole is as just as good as a vulva/vagina, on both the surgeon and the troons side.

I'm 100 % convinced that these surgeons all know what they are doing is bullshit and harmful to their patients. They are fully aware of this and simply do not care. No medical doctor with a working conscience can perform vaginoplasties and phalloplasties or whatever godless invention on these deluded and depressed people and truely believe in the righteousness of their actions.
One day a deranged alphabet activist group will finally convince some ethics committee to greenlight the very first uterus transplant in a male body and some psychopathic surgeon will be happy to do it just to get his name in the textbooks and write a case study about the gruesome death of his patient.

 

[No Batty Boys in Jamaica]

I don't understand why a tranny who's not interested in penetration would get a peritoneal pull-through instead of a zero depth, yet it keeps happening.

I hate that I know what you’re talking about. This dude is now like Jazz Jennings. He’s got a 3 foot long stink pipe that discharges gunk.

 

[2mm and 99 others]

I don't understand why a tranny who's not interested in penetration would get a peritoneal pull-through instead of a zero depth, yet it keeps happening.

I think it's very likely he had lost interest, as he got the amhole installed and lost the sex drive and realized the experience sucks ass.
This one used to have money, but where I live, if you are a poor troon who gets through all the gatekeeping to obtain the public healthcare funded amhole, you get either the inverted dick one, or a knockoff Suporn style (outright lolworthy, already appeared ITT in more instances), . But AFAIK, those two surgeons don't offer the zero depth and maybe not that many troons want it, because most of them think they need to obtain a vagina in order to woman correctly and some of them even think that they might not feel interested now, but as they become proper women, the entire world of sex is gonna open in front of them.

And if they were already fed enough troon shite to get the SRS, they believe the ''vagina'' would be unproblematic and not much of a nuisance in their lives, so even if they weren't that much interested in it, they'd have to acknowledge the amhole is a big PROBLEM in first place to want the zero depth. Which they will not, right until it happens.

 

[TheCakeIsALie]

I'm 100 % convinced that these surgeons all know what they are doing is bullshit and harmful to their patients. They are fully aware of this and simply do not care. No medical doctor with a working conscience can perform vaginoplasties and phalloplasties or whatever godless invention on these deluded and depressed people and truely believe in the righteousness of their actions.
One day a deranged alphabet activist group will finally convince some ethics committee to greenlight the very first uterus transplant in a male body and some psychopathic surgeon will be happy to do it just to get his name in the textbooks and write a case study about the gruesome death of his patient.

I can’t tell you if it will be possible in the future, although I can see troons fighting for their right to one and that will absolutely happen. It’s not just a matter of procuring a uterus and all that it encompasses.

The biggest issue is M2F trannies don’t have vaginal mucosa. This SUPER important and functions as this:

-creates the right bacteria and environment to prevent infection and help maintain pregnancy

-vaginal mucosa is lined with several layers of epithelium which removes adherent micro‐organisms

And to add, the ph of penile skin after neovaginal creation leads to an inability to support the growth of acidic lactobacilli.

What does this mean? A neovag in short, creates a hostile environment and a current inability to support let alone maintain pregnancy, while also creating a susceptibility to infection. Which is a duh already because giant wound in body = bad

a utero‐vaginal transplant would be a way around this, but there are additional considerations such as the fact that it would involve ligamentous retrieval, and then connecting it to the paraneovaginal region. As well as hrt considerations post uterine tx, and the physical differences between a male and female pelvis. That would mean every pregnancy would have to result in a c section.

and before any of this can be done, you’d have to find a donor. Either living or cadaverous, and also think about the possibility of rejection.

I hope it never comes to fruition. It would take A LOT of work and most likely require immunosuppressants for the rest of their life and they are expensive

And personally, I would find it an abuse of science

 

[Dr. Eldon Tyrell]

The complete misinformation. Wtf do they think nerves are? They don’t slot together like electronics. “Nerve endings left open” what?

"Yer nerves are improperly terminated? Lemme just git ma tranny crimp tool... dis no ordinary crimp tool, no siree - this one's only for the purdieeest trannys!

Spoiler: There you go, like new!

 

[Poonocchio]

personally, I would find it an abuse of science

Fits in with everything related to trannies well, then.

 

[neverendingmidi]

"Yer nerves are improperly terminated? Lemme just git ma tranny crimp tool... dis no ordinary crimp tool, no siree - this one's only for the purdieeest trannys!

Spoiler: There you go, like new!

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Nah, nah, they just need this:

 

[CertifiedFedBot]

The biggest issue is M2F trannies don’t have vaginal mucosa. This SUPER important and functions as this:

Isn't the mucosa, PH, and general hostility to bacteria the reason why vaginas aren't festering pits of rot and shit like "neo-vaginas" are?

Iirc semen has special properties to shield the sperm from the hostile environment which keeps everything clean. Now imagine someone nuts inside a rotpocket and the tranny in full gender euphoria ferments that shit inside the already filthy buried and scarred up skinfold. Truly a Satanic enterprise. Really lends more proof to Conspiracy Mawile view that this is something only evil butcherers would ever partake in.

 

[TheCakeIsALie]

Isn't the mucosa, PH, and general hostility to bacteria the reason why vaginas aren't festering pits of rot and shit like "neo-vaginas" are?

Iirc semen has special properties to shield the sperm from the hostile environment which keeps everything clean. Now imagine someone nuts inside a rotpocket and the tranny in full gender euphoria ferments that shit inside the already filthy buried and scarred up skinfold. Truly a Satanic enterprise. Really lends more proof to Conspiracy Mawile view that this is something only evil butcherers would ever partake in.

Women get infections, but for different reasons. Yeast infection from antibiotics, utis due to a shorter urethra and so on.

There’s good and bad bacteria. Good bacteria are what is called normal flora. Internally, we are coated in mucus which is why people with cf have issue with multiple organs, not just the lungs.

Vaginas need good bacteria to as you have said, to prevent issues. It’s actually a little complicated as vaginal mucosa is in a dynamic state of flux, changing in number and composition hourly as part of proper, normal regulation. lactobacilli is the major player and it produces lactic acid and hydrogen peroxide, which acidifies the vaginal environment and prevents foreign bacteria from colonizing.

Penile skin (not including foreskin) has different flora such as Corynebacteriaceae, Pseudomonadaceae, and Oxalobacteraceae in addition to ph differences. Normal ph for women is 3.8 to 4.5. The average penis has a ph level of 5

As for semen:

Semen's buffering pH helps sperm travel

Seminal plasma: a liquid in semen helps keep sperm cells viable.

Semen contains fructose, which supports sperm motility

The other thing to think about as well is that an egg and sperm need to be introduced, so that’s another disgusting aspect to think about in terms of experimenting with ivf or test tube babies in order to create a troon pregnancy

An entire troon pregnancy would have to contain all of the elements:

A surgeon willing to do the surgery

transplanting a uterus, cervix, surrounding ligamentous tissues, blood vessels, and vaginal cuff from either a living or deceased donor at a minimum

Preventing all of the above from rejecting

An egg donor and a way for sperm to meet egg

C section for delivering

And this is all assuming everything goes correctly and there are no complications or issues. And doesn’t consider hormones, because you’d also somehow have to get a placenta to develop and all that stuff as well

@~nogger~ : I don’t mind if it’s for legit medical reasons. That is one thing. Doing it for troon delusion is what’s abhorrent

@Otterly also brings up good points as well. There’s a lot of changes happening during it

 

[Dr. Eldon Tyrell]

One day a deranged alphabet activist group will finally convince some ethics committee to greenlight the very first uterus transplant in a male body and some psychopathic surgeon will be happy to do it just to get his name in the textbooks and write a case study about the gruesome death of his patient.

I can’t tell you if it will be possible in the future, although I can see troons fighting for their right to one and that will absolutely happen. It’s not just a matter of procuring a uterus and all that it encompasses.

It's happening:
She was so inspired by the story, she decided right then and there she wanted to donate her own uterus.
The Butchers at Johns Hopkins need you!

But AFAIK, those two surgeons don't offer the zero depth and maybe not that many troons want it, because most of them think they need to obtain a vagina in order to woman correctly and some of them even think that they might not feel interested now, but as they become proper women, the entire world of sex is gonna open in front of them.

Let me cite something:

In explaining to the Court why article twelve had been breached by the
Government’s refusal to allow me to marry, his arguments were elegant and
concise. He pointed out that in the United Kingdom, gender-reassignment
surgery was permitted without legal formality and that the operation was
available on the National Health. This surgery, he explained, had made me
perfectly capable of sexual intercourse. There was no question that for
social, sexual and psychological purposes, I was a woman. I was accepted
as such by friends, acquaintances and doctors.
He reiterated the point, made by the majority of the Commission who
had found in my favour, that the ability to bear children was not a
necessary condition of the right to marry. Many women are unable to
procreate yet are permitted to marry. He quoted Justice Matthews:
Certainly a post-operative male-to-female transsexual lacks the capacity
to procreate as a woman, but she has also lost that ability as a man. It is
of little assistance to apply a test relating to the capacity to procreate in
the case of a post-operative transsexual, for she has no capacity to
procreate at all.
He explained that by refusing me the right to marry a man, the
Government were denying me the right to marry at all. I certainly couldn’t
marry another woman, as I would be unable to consummate the
relationship. He told the assembled courtroom that he could find no good
reason to justify the Government’s action, and that it was arbitrary to offer
me surgery, issue me with a passport in a female name, and allow me to
use that name and female identity for all practical purposes, but to refuse
me the right to marry a man.

(Pages 212 and 213 of the attached)

This is illuminates part of the legal reasoning behind vaginoplasty.
There really are men who think that everything which makes their dick hard and happens to have even just the most rudimentary dickhole constitutes a woman,
esp. in the court of law. Also notice how this shit was fought over way before gay marriage.
If these pro-trans people could have their way, they would turn all gay men hot twinks into true and honest women who they can then marry and fuck (and still be totally hetero). It's also very clear that this , opposed to gay and lesbian rights, is nothing with grass roots at all, except for our protagonist in this particular case: "Tula" - she's real - real gullible. Everyone, from the guys who tried to marry her to the psychologists and butchers and up to the high powered lawyer, they all are old, rich, sometimes fat creeps.

The idea of depth is important to the old schoolers because the twink in question needs to have a fuckable woman-like part for the above train of legal thought to work. This is all somwhat historic (in the west at least) by now but that was their original angle. Legal recognition of a tranny's gender on the passport is one thing but these frankenstein chasers also want to marry their creations. And at least back then, in most jurisdictions, you needed to consumate a legal marriage in a non-sodomy way, hence the neovagina with penetrable depth.

 

[Otterly]

transplanting a uterus, cervix, surrounding ligamentous tissues, blood vessels, and vaginal cuff from either a living or deceased donor at a minimum

I think even if all that was done perfectly it would still fail. A woman’s whole body reacts to pregnancy. You get an increased blood volume. Your pituitary and hormone systems need to work in balance with the growing pregnancy to ensure that it all works. The ribs expand. The internal organs are displaced. The placenta is an embryonic tissue but the woman’s body must accommodate all the waste that’s transferred over and deal with it. There are even foetal cells that transfer over from every pregnancy into the mother and persist for life - we still dont really understand all they do in the mother but there’s a reason women’s immune systems are different. She has to cope with a being inside her for nine months that’s only half ‘self’ . I would suspect that any one of these issues would cause the pregnancy to fail and perhaps even kill the man.
Pregnancy isn’t plug and play , and troons think biology is just like swapping bits around like a video game and drinking magic girl potion. Pregnancy involves the whole system.

 

[CertifiedFedBot]

perhaps even kill the man.

What a loss.