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jesus christ this shit was set up wasn't it.

I genuinely thought in the first fog of war hours that the Secret Service agents had performed bravely. The shooter was dead within a moment of getting his shot off. It seemed incredibly fast and well-handled. I didn't for a moment think this would be what was revealed when the fog of war cleared and we could reconstruct the events of the day.

Local police did everything right, they reported back to Secret Service about the suspicious guy over and over for an hour.

Local citizens did everything right, they recorded the guy, screamed for help from police, did anything they could to alert authorities.

Even his parents, by the sounds of it, did everything right, calling the local police to report that their son was missing and they were very concerned. They knew he'd taken the gun (he'd told them he was going to the range, but they didn't believe him).

Everyone did everything right up until it hit the Secret Service, and they just shrugged and let it happen. This is horrifying. The whole agency needs to be cleaned out, top to bottom.
 
As has been said many times before, principles only hold so long as both sides are willing to abide by underlying rules. For a very long time, I've been of the opinion that the vocal nuts have been the outliers and that the majority of people can be debated, argued, or reasoned with; that we can lock horns and whatever the outcome, agree to disagree.

This is not the case and hasn't been for quite some time. It noticeably accelerated during the 2016 election, but goes back quite a bit further.
You cannot hold an outright hostile group to your own standards, as said standards will hobble you, if not outright kill you in such a situation.
This situation isn't groups vying for their vision of an ideal America, but of those that desire power and subjugation above all else. You can see it in the moral superiority and weaponization wielded by the Left over the past generation. You've had people getting fired for criticizing what should be, in any rational society, overt insanity; and yet suddenly now that the pendulum has started to swing back we must grant these cretins the kindness and respect that they do graciously withheld from us? No.

Fuck em, let it burn.
 
I can't even get close to definining this situation as extreme incompetence anymore. What happened was straight up malice.
THE SHOOTERS PARENTS CALLED THE POLICE BEFORE THE SHOOTING
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While I do think fuckery is afoot we should keep in mind that he lived an hour south of Butler.
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I can't imagine that the cops in Bethel Park would've ever thought that this egg head motherfucker would've traveled all the way to Butler to kill Trump just because his parents said he was missing. Even the Fox anchor has no idea what was said. Now if it comes out that they told the cops that he took their gun and range stuff and they thought he was heading to Butler, then I'll eat my words.
 
I mean we can still take some moral high ground, like only cancelling them for advocating for the death of a presidential candidate and relishing in the death of bystanders - but not trying to get them fired and debanked for saying that the bible isn't an accurate portrayal of events.
Buddy I want to agree with you I really do, I hate being a vindictive person but I just can’t here. I mean obviously just having a disagreement about the Bible shouldn’t be turned into being cancelled. But I don’t think that’s what I’m talking about.
 
All these people getting shitcanned just for calling for the murder of the PotUS has me worried about the chilling effect this will have on calls for political violence.
They made their bed now they will lie in it. Give nothing to them and everything to frens. Don't leave the community find ways you can to influence the community or hobby. Now is tike they face consequences of their own actions.
 
I'd normally fall more on the avoiding cancel culture side. Instead, call them out but ask for apology rather than a lost job and actually accept it if offered. But in this case, the mental image of a bunch of mainstream internet janitors who probably agree with "wish he didn't miss" sentiments being forced to ban their most vocal minions for not being nice enough to Donald Trump is just delicious.
 
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Dem's internal polling must be absolutely catastrophic if Schiff is worried about his Senate race in Cali.
They are pissed the TDS Shooter took the pressure of dementia Joe. They were so close to getting rid of him and now it looks like they are gonna be stuck with him.

But, "MUH CANCEL CULTURE".

Nah. Get fucked, you cucks. I'll third this joining. It's about time we had an "eye for an eye" happen in regards to this retardation.
Re: firings due to publicly lamenting the fact that Crooks missed

I will join the chorus saying "about fucking time these fuckers got a taste of their own medicine". No sympathy after these fuckers got people fired for way less than celebrating, and in some cases, encouraging, political assassination.
These morons kept saying "cancel culture isn't real".
Well I guess people are having to face the consequences for their actions.
 
Naw. If there's any smoke here, it's similar to J6 in that they saw an opportunity and left the doors open.

Yes, but that's a setup.

If the Secret Service pretends to defend a president but doesn't actually, then you can pretty much count on there being some crazy person taking a potshot. If you've decided to ignore reports and engage in a "never shoot first" policy in that circumstance, you are as good as pulling the trigger yourself.

Donald Trump could easily afford to hire his own private Secret Service, if he had been properly informed they did not intend to defend him. They were worse than useless, because they made it so he thought he had protection when he did not, and took away his opportunity to understand his own defensive weaknesses.

If I were him I'd be surrounded by my own people now, and have my own people interacting frequently with law enforcement with an open comms channel to the people physically closest to Trump.
 
Yeah. I don’t like working class people losing their livelihood over shit takes on the internet.
Don't give a shit. It's been going on for over a decade. BAKE THE CAKE
Take out your righteous anger on those who deserve it: the media and politicians. Leave the little guy alone - left and right.
Some of the little people deserve it too. The little people wished death on people and reported other "little people" for supporting Trump.
The pettiness isn’t a game I want to play into. I don’t think anyone is truly outraged at some old woman saying she wishes the shooter had better aim or whatever. I read worse and more violent sentiments on the internet every day. The difference is, people know they can wield power and control over their perceived adversary. It’s cathartic. But pointless.
Spoken like a loser. If you want to get back to normalcy and polite society you have to show them you can be just as rude and ruthless as they are. Anything less is asking to be stepped on which is exactly what has happened for the last 15+ years.
Firing Betty from her cashier job or Margaret from her administration job isn’t going to fix this mess we’re in.
Wrong. The only way out is through. Firing Betty + Margaret is the only way through this mess.
 
If I were him I'd be surrounded by my own people now, and have my own people interacting frequently with law enforcement with an open comms channel to the people physically closest to Trump.
"NOOOO THE ORANGE HITLER IS BUILDING HIS OWN STURMABTEILUNG HE NEEDS TO BE STOPPED AAAAAAAAAAAAAA-"

For the seething, coping and rage coming from the leftoids alone it would be money well spent.
 
Naw. If there's any smoke here, it's similar to J6 in that they saw an opportunity and left the doors open.
And possibly the intel agencies groomed the kid like they have so many others. So not a set-up in the sense that he was a fed himself, but I wouldn't be the least bit surprised if they led him down this path and then intentionally allowed for a hole in security.
 
Yes, but that's a setup.

If the Secret Service pretends to defend a president but doesn't actually, then you can pretty much count on there being some crazy person taking a potshot. If you've decided to ignore reports and engage in a "never shoot first" policy in that circumstance, you are as good as pulling the trigger yourself.

Donald Trump could easily afford to hire his own private Secret Service, if he had been properly informed they did not intend to defend him. They were worse than useless, because they made it so he thought he had protection when he did not, and took away his opportunity to understand his own defensive weaknesses.

If I were him I'd be surrounded by my own people now, and have my own people interacting frequently with law enforcement with an open comms channel to the people physically closest to Trump.
Looks like this is already taking place. No more ovaries in the RNC convention, no sign of lackadaisical security.
 
Im curious if they will go the route of 'we found atypical antipsychotics in his blood stream, usually prescribed to treat schizophrenia or mania, alongside copious amounts of THC. We also found a dime sized mass on his hypothalumus which may have caused aggressive behaviors' or something, I have no idea. He clearly died from bullet to head, I am just curious what else is going to come out. Or what if they have more 'miscommunication' and accidentally cremate the body before any tests are done. I just cant get over how strange the whole thing is.
The Charles Whitman brain tumor connection is a good question. It's a bit scrambly in there though..
 
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