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Do we have any word on the cop who supposedly confronted Crooks on the roof, before heading back down to wait for backup?

And by word, I mean whatever braindead department protocol that encourages Uvalde-style cowardice rather than an immediate response to an active threat.

Yes.

He was being hoisted by his partner to get a view. He did not use a ladder. He fell backward and was injured in the process but they did radio to let others know about it.

Trump had only been onstage 6 minutes when shots rang out. All it would have taken to avert this outcome would have been for someone to say "Mr. President, we need you to hold off for another 10 minutes until a situation is cleared."

Trump is always 30 minutes late to speeches. Ten extra minutes would have made no difference. This was an insane act of malice or malfeasance.
 
Well, DU, what is happening is the defenders of democracy lied to all of the voters about the health of the candidate in order to influence the results of the election. Now, the defenders of democracy are going to wait until the exact moment when power is concentrated not in the hands of primary voters or their delegates but instead in a small portion of establishment DNC powerbrokers who are then going to pick a new nominee. Meanwhile, the Republican voters who represent a massive danger to democracy will be voting for the candidate they nominated in a democratic process even though the establishment of their party hates him.
 
BREAKING: Senate Majority Leader Chuck Schumer and House Minority Leader Hakeem Jeffries pushed the party to delay its nominating process, multiple sources tell ABC News.

This comes after Schumer met privately with Pres. Biden on Saturday in Rehoboth, Delaware. Following the meeting, Schumer only described it as a "good meeting."
This is terrible. How much longer do you plan on putting this off? At this point it'd be better just to ride it with Biden.
 
BREAKING: Senate Majority Leader Chuck Schumer and House Minority Leader Hakeem Jeffries pushed the party to delay its nominating process, multiple sources tell ABC News.

This comes after Schumer met privately with Pres. Biden on Saturday in Rehoboth, Delaware. Following the meeting, Schumer only described it as a "good meeting."


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Probably because the DNC just announced they will do a virtual conference vote ahead of the convention to confirm Biden next week in an attempt to head off any out group shenanigans. Chuck will have to move fast, and he won't cause he don't really care. if he wants to stop Biden

They all know chances are Trump will landslide, they only thing the average Dem Pol is now concerned about is saving his/her/it's own seat. Fuck the party, fuck the American voter I gota save my own ass!
 
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The funniest possible outcome is that this was an attempt by the lesbian Secret Service chief to give a beautiful gift to woo Jill Biden, who she is famously close to, in order to ensure that when Joe kicks the bucket Jill will realize who's really stood by her all this time.
this sounds like if the Rose Of Versailles / Onisama-e gal tried to do a political thriller
 
This whole situation is on the same level as MLK/JFK/RFK and the Vegas shooting. We know also now the shooter's parents called the cops hours before the event saying their son was missing and they were worried about him. Just how absurd it is, it feels like whoever did this allowed the kid to get a clean shot off and then took him out because the whole "dead men tell no tales."
 
Probably because the DNC just announced they will do a virtual conference vote ahead of the convention to confirm Biden next week in an attempt to head off an out group shenanigans. Chuck will have to move fast, and he won't cause he don't really care. if he wants to stop Biden

They all know chances are Trump will landslide, they only thing the average Dem Pol is now concerned about is saving his/her/it's own seat. Fuck the party, fuck the American voter I gota save my own ass!
I think their only way to save their individual asses is to *not* fuck the american voters
 
OK cool I'm going to spin my baseless speculation right here and just plop it like a big wet shit for posterity right here, just in case I'm right.

TL;DR: Agents create honeypot + turn a few key Secret Service personnel.

Loner gun nut Crooks posts on gun-related forums.

A girl starts talking to him because she thinks he's sooooo hot with his amazing takes on weaponry and his big manly guns.

He has never gotten this much female attention before.

She is wild. She tells him she is antifa and super anti-Trump. He's whatever will get him this girl. She will do all the freaky shit he's only thought porn girls do but she'll show up on video and she'll take photos, she's totally the real deal.

Actually a honeypot by domestic or foreign agency, she gets him to set up the shooting, and she gets him to rig up his electronics to blow when he does it so that nothing can connect the authorities back to her. She tells him that it's okay because people are watching his back and will make sure he can carry out the mission.

A few key secret service personnel, specifically the people in charge of the interface between local law enforcement and the closest physical presence agents to the President, get turned. [Only if this turns out to be by domestic agents: perhaps they initially aren't even assigned to this rally, so Kamala and Jill both schedule rallies until the correct person is in place at the Trump rally] Only a small group of agents are turned but they are the key linkages entrusted with relaying local law enforcement reports to enable agents nearer the president to (for instance) tell him to hold off on going onstage until a threat was neutralized.
So I also have fan theory and its basically this but instead of "uwu please do this super awesome mission anon to save the world all by yourself". Maybe he was a spotter or potential back up gun? I'm not saying second shooter even just literally the help, "just bring you're range finder and press this button when you're told" It'd be a lot easier sell to some autist who probably wouldn't even like the idea of him being some chris kyle sniper.
I do not as of yet believe this schizo theory but wouldn't be surprised if this turned out to be true in some way or fashion.
 
Has this been posted yet?
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I tried so hard to see if it’s here but this thread is crazy. Could some lovely kiwi download the video if it hasn’t been saved yet? Pardon my poor phone posting skills.

Edit: I now choose to believe Crooks got MKULTRA’d by a Raspberry Pi.

Sure, this kid had no internet presence. Suuuuuuure.
 
Probably because the DNC just announced they will do a virtual conference vote ahead of the convention to confirm Biden next week in an attempt to head off an out group shenanigans. Chuck will have to move fast, and he won't cause he don't really care. if he wants to stop Biden
ACLJ today mentioned that the Ohio issue has been handled within the state and they don't _have_ to do the zoom convention ahead of Chicago anymore
 
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This whole situation is on the same level as MLK/JFK/RFK and the Vegas shooting. We know also now the shooter's parents called the cops hours before the event saying their son was missing and they were worried about him. Just how absurd it is, it feels like whoever did this allowed the kid to get a clean shot off and then took him out because the whole "dead men tell no tales."
They probably thought the kid killed Trump.
 

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Killing someone with a screwdriver would take multiple stabs up close and personal.
Nope, it was one stab straight into the temple, handle deep. Rapist died on his feet and just collapsed like a puppet with its strings cut, folding into a heap onto himself. I remember that very well, was my first time seeing someone actually die (on camera, anyway). The teacher absolutely freaked that the video was that graphic, lol.

I also remember being annoyed they shot the father. I understand it, but my sense of justice is very different from the law I guess.

Not sure if this has been posted yet but a Hispanic classmate of the shooter claimed that the shooter had grilled him on the fact that he's a Hispanic who supports Trump.
Calling him stupid for supporting Trump.
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Just tweeted out by SpectatorIndex on Twitter, source being Fox News Digital. [Source Tweet archive]
Is there another source of this video? Looks like SpectatorIndex deleted the tweet.

Ok so genuinely how likely is it for trump to win 2024, I honestly have no idea because X is an echo chamber for both sides saying they’re definitely gonna win.
At this exact moment, it's basically a certainty. It was already at least 65% chance Trump to win before the Debate and the Dems and Media going after Biden's dementia finally, and the lackluster Press Conference.

With this shooting, in PA of all places, it's a near certainty that Trump wins now. Even Redditors are giving up.

He needs only to pick up three states from 2020 to hit 270 EVs: Arizona, Georgia, and Pennsylvania. He's ahead in all of them, gaining ground since the debate, and he's probably winning Nevada as well. At this point, he should end up with around 312 EVs, though given how close Virginia and Minnesota are, he could possibly end up well beyond that.

OK cool I'm going to spin my baseless speculation right here and just plop it like a big wet shit for posterity right here, just in case I'm right.

TL;DR: Agents create honeypot + turn a few key Secret Service personnel.

Loner gun nut Crooks posts on gun-related forums.

A girl starts talking to him because she thinks he's sooooo hot with his amazing takes on weaponry and his big manly guns.

He has never gotten this much female attention before.

She is wild. She tells him she is antifa and super anti-Trump. He's whatever will get him this girl. She will do all the freaky shit he's only thought porn girls do but she'll show up on video and she'll take photos, she's totally the real deal.

Actually a honeypot by domestic or foreign agency, she gets him to set up the shooting, and she gets him to rig up his electronics to blow when he does it so that nothing can connect the authorities back to her. She tells him that it's okay because people are watching his back and will make sure he can carry out the mission.

A few key secret service personnel, specifically the people in charge of the interface between local law enforcement and the closest physical presence agents to the President, get turned. [Only if this turns out to be by domestic agents: perhaps they initially aren't even assigned to this rally, so Kamala and Jill both schedule rallies until the correct person is in place at the Trump rally] Only a small group of agents are turned but they are the key linkages entrusted with relaying local law enforcement reports to enable agents nearer the president to (for instance) tell him to hold off on going onstage until a threat was neutralized.
So you're saying Mossad used a honeypot to set up this kid to kill Trump, so they could then claim it was all done by Iran (which the neocons are trying like hell to push right now) and give Biden a wave of bipartisan support in Congress for finally starting that Iran-US war that Trump specifically refused to start?

When you put it like that, yeah, sounds legit.
 
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