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Breadbassket said:
Perhaps sooner or later relatively cheap long-range missiles that deploy clusters of smaller projectiles for air defense systems to target will be all the rage in the near future.
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They already exist. ICBMs are currently loaded with chaff that has an identical radar cross-section to RVs.

You’ll pick up something like 20 targets and only three of them will be real RVs. If I were Russia and I saw America building more RV interceptors, I’d field several ICBMs that were nothing but chaff and Hamas-ify my war plan.
 
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Leaf Wage Slave Jr said:
I know why Biden isn't stepping down - it's not because he's a stubborn bastard, or his wife and cokehead are keeping him in the echo chamber. No, it's that his demented mind probably thinks that stepping down means stairs, and we all know Biden doesn't have a good relationship with those anymore.

In all seriousness, if the Dems were smart, they'd just keep Biden in to hold the bag - Trump has way too much momentum to stop, and TDS aside people likely preferred he economy under Trump than they do under Biden and the Dems, so might as well throw the hand puppet under the bus. Partly so they can try and regroup for 2028, mostly because who the fuck do the Dems have to replace Biden with anyway? Kamala is somehow less popular then Joe, and off the top of my head I can't immediately name anyone in the party that wouldn't be downright toxic to voters.
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The problem continues to be the Bidens - namely, Hunter and Jill. Both of them are fucked if Joe isn't running and both of them have his ear.
 
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Doctor Love said:
Those aren't bullets, they're rockets. Or maybe missiles - I'm not too sure about the lore, can they alter course once fired? If so, it's a missile. If not, it's a rocket.
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They are basically rocket propeled artilery. They have a primer and propellant which gives them a initial kick and then the rocket fires to go faster. It makes the main problem of gyrojets (bullet starts so slow it is basically harmless for the first 20 meters) irrelevant.
 
trent said:
The mask once again slipping with this claim about Grindr activity at the RNC.

I thought liberals were supposed to be pro-LGBT and yet they are going with "look at all these icky fags using a gay hook-up app" to try to throw shade at conservatives.
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Plot twist: they are performing conversation therapy at the meetups to save their souls.
 
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Doctor Love said:
Good answer. Way better than "pff nerd"


Yeah, some defense. It's better to have maybe one or two cities have some survivors - God knows why they didn't invest in the big ass bunkers like the Soviets did. Those actually would help, and brought the Metro series with them.

I'm not against it by any means, tech is tech, and it's good to have spares. The #1 reason why nukes get dismantled is to save money on refining fresh uranium. Might as well just use them to store fuel and then use the missiles for other shit.
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Well unless I'm really MATI I try to argue in good faith. Let's assume we had Safeguard, functioning nominally, and nationwide as we'd planned before the ABM treaty (which was stupid but we can discuss that some other time). A laydown pattern of nukes over, say, NYC that has maybe what, 3-4 warheads. Let's say 4, and one gets knocked out completely, lands in the harbor, another just dirty bombs, but two are more-or-less on target and fizzle at 1 and 5kt each.


That's over six hundred thousand casualties. Let's be honest - most of those if not all of them we might as well just call "deaths" because remember there's 300-400 more strikes around the country and especially in the Eastern Seaboard from Florida to Maine (they're gonna be shooting at Groton, all the way down to Norfolk, to get any sub pens and Naval assets they can).

We as a nation could barely cope with one city getting hit with the equivalent of a 10kt nuke when New Orleans got hit by Katrina and just the rumors of casualties (which as it turned out were far, far lower than what was said but stay with me here). A Katrina level event, coupled with radiation, and fires, and the rubble of collapsed buildings, in multiple states, from Sea to Shining Sea is a goddamn nightmare.
With all of that said, yes, I still want an NMD up. I hate the "well we can't have Star Trek deflector shields that stop 100% of the missiles and just turn it into a lightshow that we ignore and go on about our day, might as well just get hit with 8000 megatons and all die!" mindset.

If we get hit I don't want it to be for lack of trying to stop getting hit.
 
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Mikoyan said:
One of the reasons why Rs have historically not cleaned house is, well, the 'rocket design' place is in Alabama.
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Loads of NASA people outside of Alabama though. Something tells me that the dudes in the JPL and the guys who machine nozzles in Alabama aren't the ones fucking up Artemis.
 
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General Emílio Médici said:
The antisemitism point is actually interesting, and you can see why he drives Zionists wild and makes Tel Aviv so angry. He is comited to combatting antisemitism, sure, but exactly that no more no less. His idea is to attack the problem in the exact way it is understood by most people: stop the muslims who love killing jews.

But that isn't what most zionists want. They want gibs for Israel and criticism of their special strip of desert made illegal. It's why they are pushing that retarded definition of antisemitism that makes even questioning them bad. But Trump isn't going for that, and they don't have a opening to wedge him out of it because the man is too pure to get pushed. What are they gonna do? "No we don't actually want you to stop jihadis, we just want more power over the US government" and threaten having him start to sour on them?
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It's why i've never cared about his Isreal policy. He wants to stop dune coons from killing people. OK, yeah, i'm good with that, not a Muslim fan. But he also isn't going to give out gibs without getting something back. I'm also ok with that. Isreal has military tech. Share bitch. Or I guess you don't get free money. Sorry bro.

And yeah, he isn't going to push the very loose term of "antisemitism". Because that isn't American. Which is what he cares about more than any Jew, despite appearances.
 
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AnotherPleb said:
The problem continues to be the Bidens - namely, Hunter and Jill. Both of them are fucked if Joe isn't running and both of them have his ear.
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Good. Truly, I mean that. Good on multiple levels.

People can bet on this new brand of 'forgive and forget' unity stuff and give me every fag sticker they want for my vitriol, but him being turned into a true marionette in final months of his life is quite a fitting end. Personally I would appreciate something more 'Roman', but one has to the accept the methods available.
 
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Cuckoman said:
That sounds like he now thinks Biden will not be the nominee any more.
No point dunking on some random ex-politician that you will not be running against.
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Just like the VP debate diss, even if it IS Biden, might as well act like it's not. You're pointing out your opponent's disarray. And maybe making them mad.
 
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UncleAdolf said:
Good. Truly, I mean that. Good on multiple levels.

People can bet on this new brand of 'forgive and forget' unity stuff and give me every fag sticker they want for my vitriol, but him being turned into a true marionette in final months of his life is quite a fitting end. Personally I would appreciate something more 'Roman', but one has to the accept the methods available.
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frankly i hope his family falls into ruin as they based their entire collective income on Joe's position and the level of corruption it allows them.
 
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General Emílio Médici said:
The SDI/Star Wars program failed because the tech on lasers was nowhere near good enough, and the USA pretty much just bluffed and made the Soviets think it was way closer to being done than it was.

I wonder if 40 years of tech development, even if not directly aimed on that direction, means such a system could be possible now.

I do have to bring some bad news about moon landings and bases though, unless Trump wants to offload all of it to private companies like SpaceX and Virgin it isn't happening. NASA's Artemis mission is a fucking shitshow, nowhere near done and somehow the results so far are more expensive and less advanced than even the fucking soviet moon program, much less the OG Von Braun moonshot.

If Trump wants it done, he is gonna have to go full The Apprentice "You're fired" on a LOT of people on NASA.

The antisemitism point is actually interesting, and you can see why he drives Zionists wild and makes Tel Aviv so angry. He is comited to combatting antisemitism, sure, but exactly that no more no less. His idea is to attack the problem in the exact way it is understood by most people: stop the muslims who love killing jews.

But that isn't what most zionists want. They want gibs for Israel and criticism of their special strip of desert made illegal. It's why they are pushing that retarded definition of antisemitism that makes even questioning them bad. But Trump isn't going for that, and they don't have a opening to wedge him out of it because the man is too pure to get pushed. What are they gonna do? "No we don't actually want you to stop jihadis, we just want more power over the US government" and threaten having him start to sour on them?
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Actually - this is very interesting to talk about.

Defending from a nuclear war is like trying to stop a man from shooting you, in the head, point-blank with an antimaterial rifle. Given the choice, I would say yes to a helmet. Worth a chance.

The destruction of NASA is an effect in every industry. There has been a change in academia and a complete stagnation in actual development - 90 years ago, you would study the theory of relativity from Einstein himself - it was a culture, and a way of life. Now it's a paperwork feat. The funniest part is that when you check the interactions between famous scientists, they act more like KiwiFarms users than anyone at modern NASA. There isn't a genuine interest. NASA employees won't spergout and spend several weeks researching the best polymer to add to a paint to prove a point. They just nod along and hope not to get fired - it's sad.

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It makes the main problem of gyrojets irrelevant.
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To be fair - that's because the dude who made it had no idea what he wanted it to do. You could genuinely rework the gyrojet itself to launch - there was a random toy company who made a lethal round for a fucking BB gun on the same principle. "Don't need a pressure chamber if it's a rocket" - and the ATF said "no no you can't do that" and, here we are.

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With all of that said, yes, I still want an NMD up. I hate the "well we can't have Star Trek deflector shields that stop 100% of the missiles and just turn it into a lightshow that we ignore and go on about our day, might as well just get hit with 8000 megatons and all die!" mindset.
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Yeah, same boat. But it goes to the opposite side too - false bravery and the idea that you can have this kind of arsenal, and pretend that it isn't a threat, is like the Chinese Boxers who thought praying hard enough would make them immune to machinegun fire. It's a dangerous mindset, and promotes a type of behaviour that we see in the Muslim world.
 
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