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Catch The Rainbow said:
I literally lived through that era as an Israeli, I know what I'm talking about. Israel punished the terrorists with house demolitions to offset the Saddam money
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No, not all of the martyrs were known to the Israelis. Enough of them were providing for their families post mortem that there were plenty of volunteers for suicide missions. And it was extremely difficult to track the funding from Saddam. I am very well versed on this subject.

Catch The Rainbow said:
That's simply not true. None of these people got rewarded with distinction by the Israeli government.
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They definitely were awarded by Israel. I remember seeing several low-key articles about it that have now been mysteriously scrubbed from the internet.


Catch The Rainbow said:
Suggesting Israel is filled with neocon Zionists is also dumb, especially since Zionism is a wide tent ideology. If you're in Israeli politics and not Arab/Haredi you're automatically a zionist.
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You make my point for me. Zionism and Neocon ideologies share several key tenets. In Israel it is known as Neo-Zionism, but it’s a clarification without much distinction . The so-called “Liberal“ or “Labour” version of Zionism is espoused to be the friendly and globalist version, but it doesn’t really exist anymore.
 
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WelperHelper99 said:
That might as well be a call to war.
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No, it isn't. "Strategic Independence" - a long-term position. The actual wording is precise and shows that the motivation is a comfortable separation. China isn't going to start loading up its weapons at the thought that the USA would want to make sure that all interactions with the Chinese are

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We're Americans, we already have "false bravery". Give me my missile shield. Its better to have it and not need it, than need it and not have it. Especially with what the convention is proposing
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Well, no, you don't have bravery, false or otherwise. Every country thinks it's braver than the others. The USA has the advantage in that it can "recover from this" - you can deport all the illegals, and benefit from it without slaughtering the entire Democratic Party. The diplomatic route is the benefit for you. Because the USA certainly is not brave.

That's not the case for China, or Russia or the EU. For comparison, the USA dropped a nuke because 50,000 dead was too many. Britain lost more than that on the first day of the Somme. Bravery means total victory or death. The USA would choose to quit while it's ahead - while there's no future of peaceful coexistence on the horizon for most of the "Old World"

It's a pretty important distinction, man, your way of looking at it is basically the Obama-Biden philosophy.
 
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CarlosDanger said:
The latest batch of polls are really bad, including the RCP aggregate giving Trump a lead in Virginia. I'm guessing this is why Pelosi, Schumer, Schiff, Jefferies, and even Obama were trying to get Joe out last night.
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That's crazy, not just one potentially biased lib or conservative poll, but the RCP average painting VA red right now. That has landslide implications for the national map, VA hasn't voted for a Republican president in 20 years.
 
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Doctor Love said:
No, it isn't. "Strategic Independence" - a long-term position. The actual wording is precise and shows that the motivation is a comfortable separation. China isn't going to start loading up its weapons at the thought that the USA would want to make sure that all interactions with the Chinese are
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You are a fool if you don't think the gutting of the Chinese Economy isn't a existential threat
Doctor Love said:
Well, no, you don't have bravery, false or otherwise. Every country thinks it's braver than the others. The USA has the advantage in that it can "recover from this" - you can deport all the illegals, and benefit from it without slaughtering the entire Democratic Party. The diplomatic route is the benefit for you. Because the USA certainly is not brave.

That's not the case for China, or Russia or the EU. For comparison, the USA dropped a nuke because 50,000 dead was too many. Britain lost more than that on the first day of the Somme. Bravery means total victory or death. The USA would choose to quit while it's ahead - while there's no future of peaceful coexistence on the horizon for most of the "Old World"

It's a pretty important distinction, man, your way of looking at it is basically the Obama-Biden philosophy.
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You lost so many people in WW1 because you were fucking retarded. It took us coming in to fix a European mess. We did it in a year. That is bravery. Being smart with your men and technology. Sending men to die in pointless charges is STUPIDITY.
 
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ForgedBlades said:
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All things considered, this is actually a good move. The problem isn't Biden, it's the Swamp, the whole system puppeteering him. I really do think Trump being millimeters (literally) from dying gave him some perspective. Focusing on the big picture would only help him.
 
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BibiLivesMatter said:
That is honestly surprising. Sounds like he really is changing his speech from the usual fiery ones you get from him. I really hope he does follow through with a softer speech of unity. Think now the time to inspire and make a hopeful speech, for his base is already going to vote for him. if done well could help moderates and independent opinions.

Me personally, I really would like a hopeful speech, cause for so long we gotten endless fiery ones from him and others. We really haven't gotten a real hopeful/working in unison American speech for a hot minute.
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I choose to hope for a more amusing option: An attempt to bait Biden into staying in the race by deliberately disrespecting him, acting like him stepping down is already a done deal and only mentioning Kamala and theorising about who she'll pick as her VP running mate.
 
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GunCar Gary said:
some more notable bits from the new platform
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Their AI and Crypto positions are things I've wanted for a long time. Definitely something the Boomer Conservatives never would've advocated for. I swear half of them don't understand that if you don't regulate in the first place, you don't have to deregulate.
 
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WelperHelper99 said:
You lost so many people in WW1 because you were fucking retarded.
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Brave. The word you're keen on using, here, is exactly what that mentality is.

Facing losses, knowing you will die. They didn't think they were immortal, you fucking retard. The men at D-Day were brave. Imagine D-Day every day for half a decade.

The difference comes from the fact that the USA exists in a world of its own. You're not like Russia - when the West came, the total number of Russians who were killed between the two wars was thirty fucking million. Every Russian knows that when the invaders come, if they don't fight, they will all die. If they fight to the death, and never surrender - then some will survive.

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It took us coming in to fix a European mess. We did it in a year. That is bravery. Being smart with your men and technology. Sending men to die in pointless charges is STUPIDITY.
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American history.

This straight-up didn't happen. There wasn't some big battle where the USA achieved something - it was millions of brave men who died in such absurd numbers, in such brutal ways, that the entire thing became unsustainable.

In both cases, for every one American who was involved, there were tens of hundreds of Russians and Chinese - your supposed enemies - who were grinding down the enemy. This is the false mentality I was talking about - this is exactly how Obama and Biden have operated for decades, now. The "All-or-Nothing, our way or the highway" mentality of an old-world feudalist.
 
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Watching JD Vance's speech from last night. They talk about Trump like he's Jesus.
I know this whole political career for Trump is an ego trip. And as long as he makes good on MAGA, I'm fine with it

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Biden must've pissed off Moloch something fierce for him to keep losing this badly, holy shit.
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Its the monkey's paw.
 
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barrow greeter said:
That's crazy, not just one potentially biased lib or conservative poll, but the RCP average painting VA red right now. That has landslide implications for the national map, VA hasn't voted for a Republican president in 20 years.
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I really want to see some new polling of New Mexico, New Jersey, and Maine at this point because if Virginia has swung that much (~10%) it puts all those ones and Minnesota in play. Pretty good evidence for why the Dems are running so scared right now.
 
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I know it's probably preaching to the choir here, but it is simply so absurd and striking that the left is having to grapple with if Biden can limp his senile ass across the election finish line... which is really the start line for a four year presidency. It's not "is Joe competent enough to handle the codes" or "is Joe competent enough to deal with an increasingly unstable world" or "is Joe competent enough to handle a deteriorating America," it's "can Joe keep his shit in his diaper just enough to pull of a miracle in November."
It's almost like everyone has known from the jump that he's potato puppet!!!
 
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