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I also think there should be a "jury selection" for elections where 12 random Americans are selected to run for office alongside the candidates. Eventually 2 are selected by vote to run as independents as an alternative to the parties.

Interesting theory.
 
My continued view is that it was people on the ground panicking and doing what they could. There was a greenlight from above to do some degree of fraud but they were expecting it to be closer than it was.
And here's the fun part.

Those same ground people will assume the greenlight is still on for fraud. Why wouldn't it be? Literally hitler, threat to our democracy, going to kill a hundred million trans kids a week until he's stopped, yadda yadda. So they're going to try and rig stuff on the ground level again, even if the memo comes down to absolutely not do it.

But it won't be as close as 2020, and 2020 was already so far apart that the rigging was blatant and observable, they were only saved by the fact that the Judges didn't want to pull the pin on Civil War 2.

Can you imagine this version of the graphs?

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With Biden winning with a stunning 283 million votes nation wide, 250 of which are in swing states? The glorious 7 PM, 9 PM, 11 PM, 2 AM, 5 AM, 8 AM ballot dumps, the latter of which will literally be one ballot photocopied 500,000 times? It's going to be glorious.
 
Imagine the fucking seethe if Sotomayor croaks and Trump gets to pick her replacement too.
I love Thomas, but I think he's earned a retirement the second Trump is inaugurated (provided things go well down ballot in the senate) just so this doesn't happen to him.
 
Florida man arrested, accused of making threats against Trump, Vance on social media
Police say a Florida man accused of making threats against former President Donald Trump, U.S. Sen. JD Vance and their families on social media has been arrested

JUPITER, Fla. -- A Florida man accused of making threats against former President Donald Trump, U.S. Sen. JD Vance and their families on social media was arrested on Friday, police said.

The Jupiter Police Department said in a news release that officers arrested Michael W. Wiseman on charges of written threats to kill.

He was taken into custody without incident and lodged in Palm Beach County Jail, according to Jupiter police Maj. Don Hennessy.

Wiseman was in custody at the facility on Friday night, a jail employee confirmed. The employee said she didn't have information about whether Wiseman had an attorney to contact for comment on his behalf.

Detectives said Wiseman had made multiple written threats on Facebook against Trump and Vance, who became the Republican presidential and vice presidential nominees, respectively, this week. Threats were also made “concerning bodily harm” against members of the Trump and Vance families, according to police.

Multiple people notified local police in person and online about the posts, police said.

Jupiter is about 20 miles (32 kilometers) north of Trump's Mar-a-Lago home in Palm Beach.

The investigation was conducted in coordination with the U.S. Secret Service and the Palm Beach County State Attorney’s Office, police said.
 
There were also cases of machines changing people's votes. Look it up. (Although it may be hard since the search engines have been so fucked with now.)
I've worked polls before and I will tell you what causes this.

Boomer election workers not knowing how to calibrate a touch screen.

Not trying to sound like a condscending ass with this but alot of people get this impression because in the movies show a visual vote change because they need to convey to the audience the vote changed (as evil music plays). In the real world it doesn't need to visually change if it's really changing the vote behind the scenes (key phrase right here).

On a side note. I don't think alot of places use DREs (direct recording electronic) voting machines because of the black box that your vote is written to a memory device. They use BMD (ballot marking device) that prints your ballot to paper that you then put in a ballot box (either old school or scanner). You need to check the ballot before dropping it if you are concerned.

Edit: I highly encourage everyone to work their local polls. It's fun, usually get some extra pocket money and you do get to meet nice people. At the very least it's fun people watching.
 
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Clayton thinks Thomas was a patsy for the real shooter on the water tower.

edit: the guy Tony features in the video seems schizoid. He uses some system of letters to numbers for some "facts". idk. his x id is In2ThinAir.
Get the fuck out of here with that "Water tower has the same numerical value as Donald J Trump" bullshit.
Even if it wasn't all bullshit (it is) why use "Donald J Trump"? Why not just Donald Trump, or Donald John Trump if you want to use the middle name?
 
Thing is we were told the same things. We just didn't grow up in as nice of times. I think getting shafted for half your life tempers your expectations. We didn't go from the 90's to 2000's only going up. Once 08 hit, it was all down hill. Looking back, it was good in a way. We wern't spoiled.
You also didn't have 9/11 and the wars that followed, then the great recession, then Covid.

Not to put too fine a point on it, you mentioned earlier that your big political awakening happened in when you were 15 when Trump got elected. For Millennials it was the Twin Towers falling.

Comparing the two comes across as gauche and ignorant.
 
I'd rather term limits be one term. One term state and one term fed. The problem with democracy is that fuckers get into power and have absolutely no reason to upset the status quo because in four years they have to worry about elections. I also think there should be a "jury selection" for elections where 12 random Americans are selected to run for office alongside the candidates. Eventually 2 are selected by vote to run as independents as an alternative to the parties.
What I want to know is what this will do for long term projects, like ones that take decades to complete. We already have a problem where the biggest projects need to be completed before the next president takes over, what happens when you have no reason to care about what happens after your term and if you don't give a shit about the projects the term before you started?

What about a system where instead an election every four years it could shift around a little, and be called if a recall petition of the people gain enough signatures?
 
Some folks can finally be happy now. Arrestee Michael M. Wiseman's mom's obituary:


Marian Wiseman (Finkelstein), born Brooklyn, New York January 9, 1934, entered eternal rest July 19, 2018 in the company of her family in Palm Springs, CA, following an illness this year. Marian married Irving Wiseman June 7, 1953 and the couple celebrated their 65th anniversary together this year. Marian lived in Canada until 1970 raising a family of four children and helping found the family shoe business. Former resident of Palm Beach Gardens, FL, Mashpee, MA, and Sharon MA, Marian performed in community theatre, loved a garden and a golf course, and building lifelong memories of glorious celebrations. Marian was famous for her innumerable jokes; she delighted in bringing smiles wherever she went. Always active and generous, Marian supported many causes, including temples, museums, education, hospitals, holocaust history, arts and performance. The countless quiet acts of love and support for others are noted here only, as she herself sought no recognition. Survived by her husband, Irving Wiseman; four children and their spouses, Atma Wiseman and Joy Silver, Michael and Debra Wiseman, Howard and Veronica Wiseman, Tobi and Steven Marram. Marian considered her 11 Grandchildren as her greatest achievements: Stephanie, Candice, Nicole, Edward, Charlotte, Brooke, Matthew, Joshua, Samuel, Giovanna and Shirley. Services were held Monday, July 23rd at Forest Lawn of Palm Springs, CA. Israel Cancer Research Fund (icfronline.org), Desert Outreach Synagogue, or to a charity of your choice.
 
Lordkat and marzgurl and some other CA are saying pretty much the same thing. Spoony's even smart enough not to talk like this, at ALL. Talking about games once in awhile.

ETA: Linkara lied and canceled all his streams saying his internet was out too, another smart as hell move (with a dumb excuse, say you're under the weather dude)
Spoony not saying a dam thing (aside from a genuinely funny joke about what was trending besides the shooting) is a genuine improvement in his character. Practically night and day to the TDS he had back in 2016.

Angry joe calling trump a badass was not on my bingo card but that was nice. I wonder if snob said anything. I listened to his three year old review of hillbilly elegy and he gave it a c-. wasn't terrible and there were some good performances. He's just seen this kind of movie a 100 times over and thought it was pretentious Oscar bait.
My shooter did it for fed pussy theory is gaining more traction by the hour
DHS rumored to be a human trafficking organization by inside whistleblower.
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Remember when a bunch of illegal kids got flown into New York?
 
The problem with democracy is that fuckers get into power and have absolutely no reason to upset the status quo because in four years they have to worry about elections.

And that's a good thing, because wildly swinging how the country works every 2-4 years is a terrible idea.

The Founders wanted a stable society which gave the people the levers for gradual change, not sudden or radical change. That's why we have a republic, not a democracy. Every move towards more democratic institutions over republican ones has led to distorted politics and more centralized control.

If you're annoyed at old people fossilizing bad old ideas, well, first off you aren't paying attention to how radical the platforms are that the octogenarians are pushing. But secondly, if you're still upset at old politicians, you need term limits on Congress specifically. 2 terms for President works out fine, no limit for SCOTUS is probably fine given how law needs to work even slower than legislatures.
 
Re: 2020 Fraud

There was a lot of things sussy, but the main thing that you can bring up which is extremely easy to find proof and prove is the fact that the Hunter Biden laptop happened and it was buried under a never before seen in the USA campaign of censorship and gaslighting.

The margin for Trump to win or lose in the 2020 swing states was tiny. The laptop story was more than enough to have secured his win. But it was buried and they had glowniggers lie about it's veracity.

So called "deboonkers" have no argument against this, and cope and seethe about "at the time we thought" and shit. No, no one thought it was fake at the time. They made up that it was fake to hide it.
 
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