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The new version doesn't include the "Kaiser Caspar was a homosexual" bit.
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Wasn't that in the second arc of LOGH (episode 27-52 in the original OVA)? I don't think it's been covered yet.
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Because it's good? Because it's a bunch of handsome men playing late 19th century politics in space?
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That's why you watch the show?
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Tytania is better. Yang becomes a space pirate hanging around on the outskirts of society and fights ships that can transform into giant guns.
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The sheer scope is practically unmatched in anime, or modern media in general. The pacing is absolutely perfect with the slow build through intrigue that always culminates in massive battles where shit blows up left and right and lots of people die. It's also pretty intellectual given the many dialogues on society, historiography, governance, and economics.
Nothing not to like about that unless you only watch faggy isekai.
It left me wanting more, because you know it only gets better from the ending of the arc that was adapted. I still like LOGH more though.
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It’s very well-written, especially for anime, it etfectively manages a grand, overarching space opera plot, has opposed protagonists that you manage to like both of despite their conflicting viewpoints, alongside a great secondary cast on both sides, it has surprising political depth in the question of enlightened despotism versus impotent democracy, and above all doesn’t ruin any of the above by having any sexualized adolescents whatsoever.
Like in every “anime recommendations” thread I ever see for Null, every recommended show has some trace of sexualizing minors in some way, but this show has barely any child characters at all and not a one of them is shown in anything more revealing than a military uniform. Hell, in the like three instances of any adult nudity whatsoever over an hundred episodes, really none of them are sexualized at all.
That’s not why I watched the show, but it is why it’s basically the only anime I can rewatch as a functional adult.
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I know this is just a shitpost, but gives me an excuse to gush about the series, so here I go.
It's, probably the farthest thing from tranime you can find.
It's basically a serialized dramatization of a war that happens to be science fiction. This is the show you recommend to someone that has zero interest in the standard anime tropes yet for some god forsaken reason wishes to watch some Japanese made animation. Basically, the anime for people that hate most anime.
It's a fantastic watch, though very dry and very long. Lots of politics and philosophy of what is a nation, what is a leader and so on. No fanservice to be seen, no kawai UwU, no insane transformations or crazy "nothin personel kid" moments. There are a couple of "bigger than life" characters that have some impressive feats for how grounded the setting is, but that's about it.
As for the ending not sure how to feel about it, it just... well ends. It makes sense, Reinhart was literally the soul of all that era, but a part of me would have liked a 10 years later sort of deal, though not telling probably works best since it keeps the whole philosophical struggle ambiguous and in the back of your head, if it had shown democracy won or democracy lost it would give a clear response to what it favors instead of riding that edge it sticks to during the whole series.
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LOGH is pro-Democracy.
Every relationship Reinhard has is poisoned by the Empire's system of having servants and masters. Everybody wants to use him for their goals from his wife to his most loyal servants (except for perhaps Kircheis, a friend he was never able to replace). Every relationship that everybody in that country has is about being used or using somebody.
Meanwhile in the Democracy camp Yang is surrounded by hundreds of true friends and undeniably gets the true love ending through his dedication to his cause. It is heavily hinted at the end that the Empire is about to enter an age of peace and reform. The FPA is still richer than the empire and retains its institutions as a autonomous vassal. It has also been reinvigorated by the actions of Yang to actually value and fight for its Democracy. At the same time the reformer Hildegard basically rules the empire and probably killed Reinhard to do that.
Mittermeyer gets a similar happy life to Yang but only through being the only honorable man in the Imperial camp who does what he does because he has genuine friendships with those around him. The previous Goldenbaum legitimized itself through the idea of it being the rule of men of better blood, while Reinhard tried to legitimize his system as one of honor and nobless oblige. This all rings hollow as the New Empire was founded on genocide and dishonor. It only makes sense that the only man to follow through with that original promise gets a good ending.
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This is all true but the irony is that aside from Yang basically all the FPA remnants would have been happier if Yang seized dictatorial power. They had all seen the utter impotence of a corrupted and degenerated democratic system against an enlightened despot, and none of them were really eager to reinstate anyone who’d ever been democratically elected by the old FPA. Hell, even Yang was considering it before the incident. He wouldn’t have done it because the core thesis of his beliefs is that an evil autocracy is vastly worse than an evil democracy, so he’ll fight for the system that in the long term will lessen misery. However, he was fully willing to admit that the enlightened despotism of Reinhard was vastly more effective and more beneficial even to the commoners than the old FPA had been.
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Hell, Yang even admits directly to Reinhard's face that, had he been born under the Empire, he would have gladly served Reinhard, but ultimately his loyalties lie in the democracy he was born under and the ideal of democracy that he's spent his career protecting and serving. "The right to violate the rights of the people belongs to the people."
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When I first watched the show I found the character of Trunicht interesting because it was clear that Tanaka knew people like this existed, but really did not understand them.
I would unironically compare Trunicht to Trump. The type of guy who just likes to be in charge of stuff and the center of drama for the sake of it rather than some larger ideal or even self-enrichment.
He never considered it. He believed that Democracies had to be fixed by the people rather than one man or the military.
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I disagree, at least with his other military officers Reinhart is undeniably well liked not just for his position (heck he sees their ghosts when he dies). It's one of the bigger mistakes of the anime, since even when you finally get to the civil war arc, the civil war isn't because the logical fallacy of Reinhart's rule but because the person gets manipulated to it and it's too late to stop.
It's hard to say, yeah you have the work itself being democracy at its worse still a match against autocracy at its best, but it all comes down very few key figures doing everything. Ironically The Empire is more of a team effort than the Democracy, despite historically you had Dictators fucking entire industries by putting the wrong people in charge.
I saw it as opposite with the one baby grasping at the starts showing that the new Empire is going to have a civil war with their next generation. But realistically the new empire would fall in a few years since there's about 20 years of a less competent rule that will inevitably either fuck things up or get betrayed by scum going up.
This is my big problem with the series, the first 1/3 is fantastic but as it goes along it keeps having things so skewed for the Empire that it forgets that even the idealic regimes have inherent issues, while the democratic side has incompetence and self sabotage that makes the Imperium of 40K look capable. At the very least the Democracy should have had a clear technological edge because dictatorships are prone to be technologically averse and self sabotaging.
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A must-see video for anybody who has finished the OVA adaptation liking/loving it and is wondering «should I invest time in reading the translated light novels?»
It provides a comparison between most episodes of the OVAs and the related stories in the books, while adding translated text to highlight some differing adaptation choices or omissions, as well as noting several translation mistakes in the English books (especially abundant in books 4-6).
The video provides clarification on a couple of OVA myths such as:
The nominal length of the video is 2h12m, but it contains plenty of pause-and-readable moments to increase your viewing time.
The video provides clarification on a couple of OVA myths such as:
- «The narrator sometimes provides spoilers because of the niche audience of the OVA already being familiar with them». Actually, many of these spoilers (and plenty more that were not adapted) already were there in the novels.
- «Paul von Oberstein did nothing wrong». Actually, yes, he did.
The nominal length of the video is 2h12m, but it contains plenty of pause-and-readable moments to increase your viewing time.