Star Wars Griefing Thread (SPOILERS) - Safety off

Sneedmiser said:
The Old Sith Empire lasted for 1900 years before imploding immediately upon contact with the Republic, and the "True" Sith Empire lasted for maybe 50 years upon reemerging, and that's only because Bioware is creatively bankrupt and Disney won't let anyone write anymore Legends novels that would wrap up its storylines.

Unrelated but here's a copepost about how they'll resolve the witches in a godawful canon novel probably by Christie Golden or a comic that nobody will read: Darth Zannah founded the witches so that they would one day create a dyad the Sith could use.
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Do we know it lasted 50 years upon reemerging? They could have collapsed any time from the game to a century or two before Bane's time. The game is no longer even made by Bioware so I guess it will remain in stasis forever.
 
Male Idiot said:
Do we know it lasted 50 years upon reemerging? They could have collapsed any time from the game to a century or two before Bane's time. The game is no longer even made by Bioware so I guess it will remain in stasis forever.
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All we know is that it stopped existing before the New Sith Wars, which is about 1500 years after SWtOR
 
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Blonrad Blurze said:
If Disney wanted to make some money they would make a Deathtroopers miniseries. They would have to tone down the gore but it could work. They wont though because the mouse is allergic to making good choices.
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My prediction is they adapt the Jedi Academy Trilogy into a terrible series next. Imagine it. Black Mara Jade, flat-chested lesbian girlboss Daala, flamingly gay Kyp Durron. It'll hit all the checkpoints.
 
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Male Idiot said:
Do we know it lasted 50 years upon reemerging? They could have collapsed any time from the game to a century or two before Bane's time. The game is no longer even made by Bioware so I guess it will remain in stasis forever.
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Bioware had no idea what it was doing with SWTOR and had been a shell of itself ever since Mass effect 2.

Kotor 3 should be set in the clone wars and just leave that "revan fucked off to go fight darth cthulu" headache to the audience's imagination.
 
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Bioware is on its last legs, it is nowhere near getting Kotor3. Maybe in 10 years we'll see a Kotor3, but maybe 20. Similar to Baldur's gate 3, when an other developer buys the rights to the game.
 
Male Idiot said:
Do we know it lasted 50 years upon reemerging? They could have collapsed any time from the game to a century or two before Bane's time. The game is no longer even made by Bioware so I guess it will remain in stasis forever.
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LovisXVI said:
All we know is that it stopped existing before the New Sith Wars, which is about 1500 years after SWtOR
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We know it didn't exist by the time Darth Desolus was born, which was ~3500BBY, and given how short the last two Galactic Wars were, it's unlikely the Third one lasted for 100 years. We also know that there were only Sith cults left by 2000BBY when Darth Ruin established the New Sith. The Old and New Sith have always been distinct that arose from the Second and Fourth Great Schisms respectively. For once TFU is actually helpful with the lore. SWTOR's Sith Empire is almost as bad as the Brotherhood of Darkness, except unlike the Brotherhood of Darkness, SWTOR's writers didn't mean for it to be a farce.
 
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Janusz z Gliwic said:
I've been thinking, how exactly Empire was able to locate hiding Jedi after order 66? I scoured the net and some stuff I found points to Inquisitors/Vader/Palpatine being able to sense Force usage while other suggests they relied primarily on spy/intelligence network to find proofs of someone using the Force
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So I don't know about nu canon, but the general idea is that Order 66 and Operation Knightfall was the operation to wipe out the Jedi. After that, anyone leftover wouldn't dare show their faces. Vader and the Stormtroopers have a general "Kill on Sight" policy going on with force users but they don't actively hunt them.
 
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Sneedmiser said:
We know it didn't exist by the time Darth Desolus was born, which was ~3500BBY, and given how short the last two Galactic Wars were, it's unlikely the Third one lasted for 100 years. We also know that there were only Sith cults left by 2000BBY when Darth Ruin established the New Sith. The Old and New Sith have always been distinct that arose from the Second and Fourth Great Schisms respectively. For once TFU is actually helpful with the lore. SWTOR's Sith Empire is almost as bad as the Brotherhood of Darkness, except unlike the Brotherhood of Darkness, SWTOR's writers didn't mean for it to be a farce.
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That sounds like Bioware fucked up and didn't research the date. Or TFU didn't research Kotor1's date, either or.
Even if that empire collapsed right after the game, it wouldn't let Desolus be the only Sith in two centuries than let enough Sith around for the Brotherhood of Darkness to gather "Sith cults".

Or they meant that the third faction would kill off the Sith, even than it would be a big ask, unless all the Sith suddenly died with a giant Bane Mind Bomb -2.0 or some other similar write off mechanic.
 
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Ghostse said:
tl;dr: The Hotel workers/retail workers unions for Disneyland have voted to AUTHORIZE a strike but have not implemented it yet because they are still negotiating.
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Has the power of the Yidsney cult fallen so much that the workers now realize how shit working for the mouse really is?
 
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Male Idiot said:
That sounds like Bioware fucked up and didn't research the date. Or TFU didn't research Kotor1's date, either or.
Even if that empire collapsed right after the game, it wouldn't let Desolus be the only Sith in two centuries than let enough Sith around for the Brotherhood of Darkness to gather "Sith cults".

Or they meant that the third faction would kill off the Sith, even than it would be a big ask, unless all the Sith suddenly died with a giant Bane Mind Bomb -2.0 or some other similar write off mechanic.
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The Brotherhood of Darkness didn't gather up the cults, you have the timeline off. KOTOR 1 fucked up by being ~60 years after Exar Kun's TOTJ run, but that's not relevant.

KOTOR is ~3950 years before Yavin, SWTOR is ~3650, there's more than a thousand years between Desolus and Ruin, who lived in 2000BBY. The New Sith Wars are a chronically underused part of the timeline (and now they'll never be used lmao), but there's always been a big gap between the Hundred Year Darkness and Darth Ruin (both Lucas concepts).
 
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Gondolindrim said:
So I don't know about nu canon, but the general idea is that Order 66 and Operation Knightfall was the operation to wipe out the Jedi. After that, anyone leftover wouldn't dare show their faces. Vader and the Stormtroopers have a general "Kill on Sight" policy going on with force users but they don't actively hunt them.
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I suspect that the Empire gives Force users a "join us or die" speech right then and there and if if the user doesn't say "sure, where do I sign?" immediately, it's "death it is."

What irks me is all the hidden Jedi that keep popping out of the woodwork during and after the Rebellion. Vader spends twenty years being the Emperor's troubleshooter and hunts down all the Jedi that haven't gone to work for the Empire until all that are left are Ben and Yoda. Why don't any of them show up and help train Luke or even just take him out for a cup of coffee and tell him what the old days were like? It isn't like he was obscure after he blows up the Death Star, especially with having a lightsaber and the last name of a fallen Jedi hero.
 
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William Murderface said:
I suspect that the Empire gives Force users a "join us or die" speech right then and there and if if the user doesn't say "sure, where do I sign?" immediately, it's "death it is."
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There's a great scene like this in Dark Times where the Emperor gives a bunch of captured Jedi their lightsabers back and tells them to kill one another if they want to live.
 
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William Murderface said:
I suspect that the Empire gives Force users a "join us or die" speech right then and there and if if the user doesn't say "sure, where do I sign?" immediately, it's "death it is."

What irks me is all the hidden Jedi that keep popping out of the woodwork during and after the Rebellion. Vader spends twenty years being the Emperor's troubleshooter and hunts down all the Jedi that haven't gone to work for the Empire until all that are left are Ben and Yoda. Why don't any of them show up and help train Luke or even just take him out for a cup of coffee and tell him what the old days were like? It isn't like he was obscure after he blows up the Death Star, especially with having a lightsaber and the last name of a fallen Jedi hero.
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Well in the real EU, a few did end up joining the New Jedi order, though overwhelmingly they died or they were busy with other stuff, like defending the Valley of the Jedi with Qu Rahn.
 
LovisXVI said:
Well in the real EU, a few did end up joining the New Jedi order, though overwhelmingly they died or they were busy with other stuff, like defending the Valley of the Jedi with Qu Rahn.
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From the top of my head I can only recall:
Kam Solusar who was hiding outside of the known galaxy and then captured and turned to the dark side soon after coming back. Later helped Luke as one of founding members of New Jedi Order.
Vima-Da-Boda who was in hiding during reigns of the Empire and early years of the New Republic. Later helped Luke as one of founding members of New Jedi Order.
Empatojayos Brand who was the leader of a community of outcasts hiding from the Empire with little contact from the outside. Intended to help bud died during Dark Empire crisis.
Ikrit, who exiled himself long before the purge. Also helped and also died soon after being discovered.
K'Kruhk and T'ra Saa survived but for unknown reasons did not reveal themselves until much later (understandable in case of T'ra Saa because she's, well, immobile later in her life).
And there were those who fell to the dark side, either being recruited by the Empire like Maw or Jerec, or by their own choice like Beldorion.
 
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