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"Needing to find a new vice president" is not a reason to pretend Kamala isn't the president and that Joe Biden is alive.


Kamala herself, the one who is supposed to immediately take power upon Biden's death, would scramble to do so as quickly as possible because she is a power hungry weasel, and because she is legally obligated to regardless of her own intentions. Lack of benefit aside, I find it hard to believe that she would be willing to either hide the fact that she is President or allow her subordinates to delay her swearing in.

Also, you don't know what might happen in the next 3 months. If there are some kinds of emergencies and Kamala fucks up as President she kills her chances of winning the election. (Even though COVID-19 wasn't Trump's fault I bet it affected his vote, other than it making it even easier for the Democrats to cheat.) If Biden is still President she can just blame any problems on him and blame it on his condition so as not to make it look as much like she's throwing him under the bus.
 
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I still don't understand how it escalated so quickly, but the second officer's bodycam has a couple clear frames of her throwing the pot the moment before they start shooting.

There's probably a better method to archive the video but I attached a clip of the relevant footage because the full video is too large to upload.
The amount of black people who have been killed because they can't follow simple instructions is mindblowing to me. The sheboon was asked to drop the pot, clearly signifying that the cops don't want boiling water thrown at their faces.

So what does the woman do? Literally EVERYTHING ELSE. Not only she grabs the pot again, she drops to the floor WITH the pot. I wouldn't put it past reason that she thought that, to drop the pot, she would need to grab it again.
 
She misspoke because she's stupid. They would have to be insane to both decide to fake this conversation and put in the work to actually do it. It's a real conversation.
Let's be honest here, there wasn't a conversation. It was a prepared statement before Kamala came out, and a bunch of crosstalk babble during the speech. There's nothing that was said while she was on the stage that couldn't have been pulled from any number of places and used from a soundboard, or even an impersonator.
 
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I still don't understand how it escalated so quickly, but the second officer's bodycam has a couple clear frames of her throwing the pot the moment before they start shooting. (Timestamp in YT video about 28:35)

There's probably a better method to archive the video but I attached a clip of the relevant footage because the full video is too large to upload.
The kind of mental gymnastics you need to do to justify the behavior of the cops in any way should be enough to qualify you to register as a Democrat.
 
Oh fuck off. The default VP would be the third in command, like the interior minister or something. They wouldn't nailbite over who would replace Kamelas position just because she got booted up the ladder.

Look up the post someone made earlier when they found out what would happen if Kamala became President now. There's a process to select a new VP. Kamala nominates somebody then the Democrats have to vote to approve them.
 
To keep that card, they would have to pretend Joe Biden was alive all the way until the election, which would be impossible.
They kept the wool over people's eyes on his status for most of his presidency, that only fell apart after the debate, which was under such unfavorable terms to Trump that they probably figured he would refuse. The truth is, a dead Joe Biden probably wouldn't be so different from the Biden we've seen for most of this year.
I don't think until the election is necessarily their plan, but until the DNC? That's definitely a play I could see them making. It would give them time to plan.
I don't think he's actually dead, for the record, but if you don't think it's possible that this is something they'd at least try to attempt, I really don't know what to say. They had no problem puppeting him around before the debate.
 
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I still don't understand how it escalated so quickly, but the second officer's bodycam has a couple clear frames of her throwing the pot the moment before they start shooting. (Timestamp in YT video about 28:35)

There's probably a better method to archive the video but I attached a clip of the relevant footage because the full video is too large to upload.
Even if she threw the pot of water, she’s a good distance away and separated by a counter. Even if some boiling water landed on the officer, I still doubt it would do any substantial damage. As in, it wouldn’t justify shooting her in the head. Maybe I’m wrong- I know boiling water can fuck you up. But her location and demeanor makes me second guess.

Also, I can’t tell she threw it or dropped it from the fear of having a gun pulled on her after dropping to the ground. Real shit angle of the body cam when you need it the most.
 
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I still don't understand how it escalated so quickly, but the second officer's bodycam has a couple clear frames of her throwing the pot the moment before they start shooting. (Timestamp in YT video about 28:35)

There's probably a better method to archive the video but I attached a clip of the relevant footage because the full video is too large to upload.
i think if you're looking to archive the video online, try preservetube. i'm not sure how reliable or long for this world it is, but i do know that i've seen it around a lot recently. keep hard local copies of things, use tools like this as well.
 
Also, you don't know what might happen in the next 3 months. If there are some kinds of emergencies and Kamala fucks up as President she kills her chances of winning the election. (Even though COVID-19 wasn't Trump's fault I bet it affected his vote, other than it making it even easier for the Democrats to cheat.) If Biden is still President she can just blame any problems on him and blame it on his condition so as not to make it look as much like she's throwing him under the bus.
If Biden is dead, then Kamala is acting President. There is no way around that. Being president is a public position that comes with public duties. Kamala can't be a "secret president" until the election. It would not be possible. It may or may not benefit her to take the presidency now if she is hoping to win the election, but she has to do so regardless. It's inescapable.

Either Biden is sick enough that she will become temporary acting president soon after more deliberation is made regarding his health (and then relinquishing the position when he recovers), Biden will get 25th amendment-ed, or Biden is fine and will resume being bad at his job shortly.
 
They pretended he wasn't almost brain-dead for years.
I don't know how many more times I have to explain this. There was incentive to hide his decline because he was the leader of the Democratic party and it was known that he was planning to seek re-election. If he was dead, there would no longer be any need to prop him up, because he would no longer have a political career that could be salvaged through deception.

You can pretend a man with dementia doesn't have dementia in order to help his very public political career. You cannot pretend a dead man is alive in order to help his very public political career, because if he is dead he no longer has a political career to prop up.
 
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There's a lot of people thinking that there's a Stage 2 of this coup, and it wouldn't surprise me in the slightest if that were true.

The Dems have to know that Kamala is the worst possible candidate.

From the way it seems, there are multiple people trying to pull the levers to bend the machine to their will. The vast majority of even solid party backers have no idea what's going on right now and are no more informed than we are and just want something solid to hold on to, regardless of how shaky that may be. The problem is that when too many people have their own gay plan that it creates a fucking mess.

Maybe they could get away with it if the election were in a few weeks, but there's still more than 3 months and there's no way they'll be able to keep a lid on all of it for that long. Someone is going to get betrayed and someone will spill the beans.
 
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Can someone tell me why the cops would let her go over to the boiling water to begin with? I’ve seen cops gently take knives away during calls so the people they interact with can’t grab it - before the knife is even noticed. You’d think the cop would be trained to say “hey, I’m gonna turn the stove off for you so we don’t start a fire. Why don’t you keep looking for that paperwork.”

Especially because the cop seems skeeved out by the woman’s loony behavior leading up to this.

Reason #927373 I’m not a fucking cop tho
 
What I love about the "race has changed" narrative the MSDNC and other DNC mouthpieces are putting out is, they kind of forgot the fact Trump was beating both Biden and Harris in the polls for nearly 2 years now. The media is trying so hard to make people believe the lead only happened after the debate and the assassination attempt when Trump took his first lead over Biden in March of 2023. Steve Kornacki on MSNBC this morning said "the belief Harris will do better than Biden against Trump is based more on hope than actual numbers."
 
Even if she threw the pot of water, she’s a good distance away and separated by a counter. Even if some boiling water landed on the officer, I still doubt it would do any substantial damage. As in, it wouldn’t justify shooting her in the head. Maybe I’m wrong- I know boiling water can fuck you up. But her location and demeanor makes me second guess.

Also, I can’t tell she threw it or dropped it from the fear of having a gun pulled on her after dropping to the ground. Real shit angle of the body cam when you need it the most.
I guess the line for me, even though it might seem kind of Autistic, is whether it was actually boiling water (like it had been boiling on the stove) or whether she was filling it up with hot water from her tap (which would have been unlikely to be able to cause injury unless she had been given like 5 minutes to let it heat up all of the way).
 
I feel like I'm going insane. Somebody, please, explain how they would benefit from covering up Biden's death.
Hear me out, I don't think they necessarily benefit from covering up his death.

HOWEVER, a lot of the shit that has gone on in the past week doesn't make sense unless something serious is going on with Biden. Why did he change his mind and drop out, just because covid? Why did no one know he was about to drop out, why so sudden? Why drop out/endorse Kamala over twitter and not in person?

So many bad decisions that just don't make sense if he was alive. They could have gone about all this in a much smoother manner. It really reads like something unexpected happened to Biden and they're scrambling, nothing else makes sense.
 
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