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God I feel bad for Darren Norris for some reason. Guy has range and I wanna hear him in other projects besides recycled slop.
Western Animation - Discuss American, Canadian, and European cartoons here (or just bitch about wokeshit, I guess)
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I like what they did with Poof. Turned the worst character into one I actually want to watch. I like how he sounds like pilot Cosmo all suave. This might get me to watch the show just to see what happens ngl
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Never really liked nor hated Poof because he was just kinda there, floating in place.
So I respect the attempt to actually do something with him, his design is neat.
Meanwhile I think Sparky the dog got quietly retconned out of the original show before it was even cancelled.
Commander X
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So, the R&S reboot has leaked in full apparently.
If you think it's insane how this looks like every other cartoon reboot/continuation with the same lineart, same stilted animation, and the same pseudo meta humor that falls flat, you're not insane because this show was animated by Snipple, who also did the reboots for Animaniacs and Tiny Toons. It is incredible how they took the old Tiny Toons bit where they would make a joke and then explain why it's funny but in an even more belabored and unfunny fashion.
If you think it's insane how this looks like every other cartoon reboot/continuation with the same lineart, same stilted animation, and the same pseudo meta humor that falls flat, you're not insane because this show was animated by Snipple, who also did the reboots for Animaniacs and Tiny Toons. It is incredible how they took the old Tiny Toons bit where they would make a joke and then explain why it's funny but in an even more belabored and unfunny fashion.
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While John K is a sick perverted freak, he was fucking right about 'cartoon writers' and that they should be kept away from animation at all costs.
'Animaniacs and Tiny Toons Ruined a Whole Generation of Animators.' - Negative EXP
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Funny enough, this happened:
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Wait what the fuck, I thought this was just more reboot slop? Poof inheriting Pilot Cosmo's suave salesman demeanor (and having a personality beyond "baby") sounds fucking sick.
This on the other hand IS the reboot slop I was expecting.
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I still think the fact that Ren & Stimpy is getting rebooted in 2024 is just a testament to destroy the fact the 90’s version of it was superior.
We can say whatever we want about John K.’s misdeeds in public society, but that cartoon was far more popular than it needed to be. I just can’t imagine the New Age™ writers doing Powdered Toast Man justice.
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I want to get Rocko's modern life but it has been ruined with the tranny reboot a few years back. does degenrate and political reboots stop any of you guys from watching the original?
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It wasn't that he hated "writers" in general, as some people said, he had an understandable problem with the sort of hack TV writers who couldn't draw and didn't care about cartoons but had taken over American cartoons by the end of the 1960s, and how cartoonists and artists lost all creative input and control over animation, even down to the art itself.
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Lord knows the sort of cartoons we had in the 90's are never coming back.
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I have the complete series on DVD. Outside of like one or two edited episodes (the one where Rocko and Heffer spend a night at a slut motel and the one where Heffer get's sucked off by a milker and he falls in love with it), it still holds up to this day.
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To quote crisis on infinite earths (the original comic not the movie)
Worlds will live, words will die, and nothing will ever be the same again.
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I think the biggest issue animation is facing right now is that they stopped doing cartoons for children years ago, and now they are seemingly exclusively targeting man children for some reason. All major networks are guilty of this, but Disney might be the worst offender.
Don't get me wrong. There's a place for adult cartoons and edgy shit. I am personally fond of Smiling friends. I just think it's a little creepy seeing adults in salivating about The Owl house or Steven Universes, all while children are being ignored because they are invading their spaces
Say all you want about Teen Titans Go and the endless Sponge Bob episodes, at least they are made for real children. Not Disney adults.
Your typical cal arts show made by woke idiots for the twitter woman/man children crowd that pretend to be for kids are pure cancer and the real reason children's western animation is dying.
I couldn't care less about them but I am glad that the new Fairly odd parents reboot and Bluey are aiming to entertain kids again.
To be blunt the twitter/reddit crowd needs to grow up.
Don't get me wrong. There's a place for adult cartoons and edgy shit. I am personally fond of Smiling friends. I just think it's a little creepy seeing adults in salivating about The Owl house or Steven Universes, all while children are being ignored because they are invading their spaces
Say all you want about Teen Titans Go and the endless Sponge Bob episodes, at least they are made for real children. Not Disney adults.
Your typical cal arts show made by woke idiots for the twitter woman/man children crowd that pretend to be for kids are pure cancer and the real reason children's western animation is dying.
I couldn't care less about them but I am glad that the new Fairly odd parents reboot and Bluey are aiming to entertain kids again.
To be blunt the twitter/reddit crowd needs to grow up.
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retartedconspiratard
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I may be wrong but major aspect of this is that cartoons are no longer meant to be wacky and fun with simple yet entertaining stories. There has always been this obsession with the idea that kids shows being socially aware along with being serious and cool is inheritably better than simple and funny wacky content. The irony is that even adult entertainment suffers from constant sex and toilet humour, being degenerate for the sake of it.
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Which have been infiltrated by these manchildren who want to push their creepy fetishes and gay ships into the show knowing they'd get away with it because Hillenburg is dead and Nickelodeon/Viacom is okay with pedoes.
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Well, I wasn't trying to correct you or anything, it was just that I've seen people who rush to the defense of the latest beanmouth garbage animated sitcoms get all huffy about terms like "writerspeak" "OH, I GUESS CARTOONS DON'T NEED ANY WRITING AT ALL", like they're pretending to be ignorant about what people mean when they talk about "writer cartoons", and it's managed to get as bad now as it was back in the 1980s, when every other show was some toyetic kiddy show/commerical where animators were forced to do exactly what some hack with no feeling for visuals wrote.
It's worse in some ways because for the most part "cartoon writer" hacks were just people trying to crank out enough content, now your average "writer drive" cartoon is written by hacks who think they're clever or "deep", which manifests itself in Bojack-like “LA is so great, I love being there but also I can’t afford rent” type slop that most writer driven cartoons are about now, or shows riddled with therapy-speak or barely one-dimensional characters engaging in scenarios to whip up fake pathos that's supposed to make the audience feel something.
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