US US Politics General - Discussion of President Biden and other politicians

 

[Doug S]

Congress can most certainly get rid of anyone.

False.

If Cheatle is not SS director it will be because she’s reassigned or steps down. That position answers only to the director of homeland security. It does not require congressional approval to fill and Congress has no say over who gets fired. The president himself couldn’t fire the SS Director and it’s under his admin.

Find me a single example of Congress being able to fire the SS Director or show me the law that gives them this power.

 

[BigGuyOS 6 : Jovial Janny]

From a marketing perspective these videos are unbelievably bad. She starts out the first one by saying "I know you don't want Donald Trump back in the White House" and the second starts with "The former president is a threat to our freedoms." You don't lead with negatives and talking about what you aren't, you paint a positive picture about what you have to offer. Trump dominates the narrative to the point that even his opponents can only talk about him. To be fair, it's not like Kamala can boast about what great lives people had under Biden. I also noticed some awkward cuts in these, is she too wasted to deliver a good monologue for more than 10 seconds at a time?

From a propaganda perspective, I think they are quite good. It's just her, speaking to a camera with flags in the background with no music. This is obviously not intended to speak to the Trump voter, but it subconsciously reminds you of a presidential address. The slow and neutral tone, apparent official address, and lack of music tricks people's natural political guards from going up. It puts your brain into learning mode rather than critical thinking mode. As a result, "Trump is bad" is programmed as uncritical fact into a viewer. This is an attempt to re-activate TDS in those who have come around in the past 8 years.

In comparison, the "Kamala was in on it" attack ad by Republicans has you put up your guard right away with the music, editing, and aggressive narrator. While the goal is to make you not like or distrust Kamala, starting in critical thinking mode makes you realize it's an attack ad and discard almost everything they say. They've now made all their convincing hard sells rather than soft sells, and hard sells only work on people who are already sold (the party base). A clip of Kamala talking on X is a better attack ad.

 

[Bungdit Din]

Yeah we had no memory loss either, they deleted it whilst the power was down, think like in LOTR when Sauron is distracted by Aragorn at the Black Gate. It was just a really good distraction.

Elim Garak from Deep Space 9 said it best - I believe in coincidences, coincidences happen every day but I don't trust them.

I'll see your Trek, and raise you a Fleming:

“Once is happenstance. Twice is coincidence. Three times is enemy action”

We're waaaaay past three, aren't we.

 

[Dr J]

I can't find it now but there's actual full body photos of her floating around. They're rare because she's a porker in real life but she's a genius with the camera angles so it never shows up. She knows how to hide the fat. And she makes sure that actual full body photos of her never get out.

How fat are we talking? I still might hit and run. Give Miss Piggy a night to remember

 

[Whoopsie Daisy]

What I find mental is they have confirmed that Biden has been pumped up with drugs to keep him lucid for at least a week.

SHouldn't this be an inter/national scandal that the man in charge of the US and nukes is not of sound mind? Shouldn't there be a serious investigation as to how this happened? The man could be compromised. (he is).

Anyway, RIP Joe Biden, All Hail the next president of the US, Hunter Biden.

 

[LurkTrawl]

His response was demonic though, going from zero to 100, and fueled by anger. Not all demons can be rebuked by mortals by just words alone. As christ said "this sort can only be rebuked by fast and prayer"

Nah I'm sure it was the work of an ill-tempered fey creature, that was clearly a pot made of cold-forged iron and it made the pixie possessing him panic.

Drugs are bad, kids.

 

[autistic dog]

False.

If Cheatle is not SS director it will be because she’s reassigned or steps down. That position answers only to the director of homeland security. It does not require congressional approval to fill and Congress has no say over who gets fired. The president himself couldn’t fire the SS Director and it’s under his admin.

Find me a single example of Congress being able to fire the SS Director or show me the law that gives them this power.

Ok so impeach head of DHS

 

[Quence]

His dancing style always gives me the giggles

https://youtu.be/tv5ZzG6bK7E

 

[0713]

But divine punishment is deserved for him in whatever exists as an afterlife. Not for us to doll out torture.

Wise words.

 

[Disaffected Coyote]

False.

If Cheatle is not SS director it will be because she’s reassigned or steps down. That position answers only to the director of homeland security. It does not require congressional approval to fill and Congress has no say over who gets fired. The president himself couldn’t fire the SS Director and it’s under his admin.

Find me a single example of Congress being able to fire the SS Director or show me the law that gives them this power.

From what I have found, the Secretary of Homeland Security has the authority to remove the Director of the Secret Service. If Biden wants her gone he needs to tell Mayorkas to remove her.

 

[Doug S]

Ok so impeach head of DHS

You could do that but that doesn’t mean Director of SS gets fired.

The reason why SS is different is because it’s considered vital enough to not allow tampering or influence after the probation period.

Anyone remember during Obama years the SS scandal where they were like blowing coke in South America?

https://www.politico.com/story/2012/04/secret-service-scandal-rocks-obama-trip-075128

Agents can be fired. But most get reassigned just like the higher ups.

Also, I’ve never heard a good reason as to why the director level of SS can’t be fired. I’m sure a good argument exists, I just don’t know what it is. I can make an argument against Congress being able to decide an SS director but it’s bizarre that a president can’t fire them, because their boss is a cabinet member and cabinet members serve at the pleasure of the president. It’s one of the few-maybe the only-position in the admin that a president can’t fire.

If you notice from this article below, it’s all reassignments and forced resignations. And that’s how it’s going to be with Cheatle. She can be pressured to resign or get reassigned. Congress can put a lot of pressure on her. But they can’t just get her out of the job via vote

https://archive.is/T265z

 

[SaidNoOneEver]

You could do that but that doesn’t mean Director of SS gets fired.

The reason why SS is different is because it’s considered vital enough to not allow tampering or influence after the probation period.

Anyone remember during Obama years the SS scandal where they were like blowing coke in South America?

https://www.politico.com/story/2012/04/secret-service-scandal-rocks-obama-trip-075128

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Agents can be fired. But most get reassigned just like the higher ups.

Also, I’ve never heard a good reason as to why the director level of SS can’t be fired. I’m sure a good argument exists, I just don’t know what it is. I can make an argument against Congress being able to decide an SS director but it’s bizarre that a president can’t fire them, because their boss is a cabinet member and cabinet members serve at the pleasure of the president. It’s one of the few-maybe the only-position in the admin that a president can’t fire.

If you notice from this article below, it’s all reassignments and forced resignations. And that’s how it’s going to be with Cheatle. She can be pressured to resign or get reassigned. Congress can put a lot of pressure on her. But they can’t just get her out of the job via vote

https://archive.is/T265z

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Theoretically speaking any employee of any agency that is part of the Executive Branch can be fired by the President. If that were not the case then whoever can't be fired would have more power than the President by definition and that's not how our government is supposed to work.

 

[Disaffected Coyote]

Theoretically speaking any employee of any agency that is part of the Executive Branch can be fired by the President. If that were not the case then whoever can't be fired would have more power than the President by definition and that's not how our government is supposed to work.

This would have to be hashed out in court right? I don't know if this kind of thing has Supreme Court precedence.

 

[Forest Portal Triumph 747]

I am listening to that call in the Kamala speech and that is clearly AI, there are no breathes in it and the vocalizations are not there. Listen to when he says "it's mutual" there is no consonant sounding familiar with Biden because like Trump he talks very particularly and it does not add up.

Scream at trump about insurrection but cover up constant collusion, a failed assassination and probably faking the actual president.

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I'm kinda leaning towards it being a soundboard of pre-recorded lines (probably made via AI) as opposed to a live voice alteration where some guy is speaking and AI translates it. This is based on how awkward and rigid the conversation felt, as if it was scripted.

The dialogue between cacklin kamala and whatever was pretending to be chomo joe, absolutely reeked of an obviously inauthentic "how do you do, fellow kids" vibe (perhaps more accurately a "how are you doing, fellow coworker who is totally not an AI pretending to be you, who i definitely don't despise and who is definitely really calling me to sincerely tell me you have faith in me despite a track record of demonstrating otherwise" vibe)

 

[SaidNoOneEver]

This would have to be hashed out in court right? I don't know if this kind of thing has Supreme Court precedence.

No the Constitution is pretty clear that the President is the ultimate authority over the Executive Branch. Otherwise you'd have a bunch of unelected bureaucrats with more power than the President. I suppose there could be a challenge over how much money someone is owed but the President can relieve anyone who works under the Executive Branch of their duties.

 

[AnotherPleb]

Otherwise you'd have a bunch of unelected bureaucrats with more power than the President.

Yeah, that sure would be retarded.

 

[The best and greatest]

False.

If Cheatle is not SS director it will be because she’s reassigned or steps down. That position answers only to the director of homeland security. It does not require congressional approval to fill and Congress has no say over who gets fired. The president himself couldn’t fire the SS Director and it’s under his admin.

Find me a single example of Congress being able to fire the SS Director or show me the law that gives them this power.

They don't need to fire her if she's impeached and convicted for dereliction. They can just put her in jail.

 

[Disaffected Coyote]

No the Constitution is pretty clear that the President is the ultimate authority over the Executive Branch. Otherwise you'd have a bunch of unelected bureaucrats with more power than the President. I suppose there could be a challenge over how much money someone is owed but the President can relieve anyone who works under the Executive Branch of their duties.

I've been asking the Bing AI these questions and it brought up Myers V. United States.


Myers v. United States: The landmark Supreme Court decision in Myers v. United States (1926) clarified the President’s removal power. It affirmed that the President can remove purely executive officers (those in whom they participated in appointing) without congressional approval. However, officers like the Secret Service director fall outside this category.

I agree with you that it makes more sense that the President has to be able to fire Fed employees.

 

[0713]

What I find mental is they have confirmed that Biden has been pumped up with drugs to keep him lucid for at least a week.

SHouldn't this be an inter/national scandal that the man in charge of the US and nukes is not of sound mind? Shouldn't there be a serious investigation as to how this happened? The man could be compromised. (he is).

Anyway, RIP Joe Biden, All Hail the next president of the US, Hunter Biden.

Everyone in upper government, in the US and outside, is swimming in uppers/speed most of the time. Everyone knows what's going on with Joe but they don't want any kind of spotlight on that topic.

 

[where's baldo]

I'm actually getting a little concerned, I really hope Joe Biden's okay. Politics are one thing but I'd never wish death just because I'm not gonna vote for someone.

he voted for the bullshit iraq war that killed over a million people