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Using polls in the modern day as any kind of accurate metric is completely fucking retarded.
The polls are why Biden dropped out. Before doing so most polls had Trump at a solid +5-8 points ahead of Biden. We were celebrating then. I see no reason to continue paying attention to them *especially* when they can be used to predict how things will play out in November. Anything else is just cope.
 
We are simultaneously superimposed between a state of "it's so fucking over" and "we're so fucking back" until news drops, then we pick one for the day.
This whole week is making me feel bipolar as fuck. After trumps attempted assassination I was like “there’s no way he’s gonna lose”. Now I’m like “we might just be fucked”.

Kiwibros, give me hope.
 
I'm amazed any Kiwis are paying attention to polls so much

Like...I wasn't here in 2016 but I thought everyone finally agreed that polls were bullshit after how everything shook out.

It doesn't mean that Trump isn't popular, but like...Hillary was *clearly* in the lead in polls leading up to 2016.

Pay attention to what the PEOPLE are saying, not what the media is telling you.
 
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I swore I saw a tweet or article saying Trump's team already had plans for how to deal with Kamala since May. I don't want to say I have absolute confidence yet, but I would presume Trump has a game plan that will make Kamala crash. I am not going trust the plan nonsense, it would just be idiotic for the Trump campaign to not have gamed out how to deal with Kamala's own weaknesses and how the DNC would handle her campaign compared to Biden.
 
I'm amazed Kiwis are paying attention to polls so much

Like...I wasn't here in 2016 but I thought everyone finally agreed that polls were bullshit after how everything shook out.

It doesn't mean that Trump *isn't* popular, but like...Hillary was *clearly* in the lead in polls leading up to 2016.

Pay attention to what the PEOPLE are saying, not what the media is telling you.
For real. Nate Silver saying Trump will win should be super depressing lol
 
The real issue with the polls is that Kamala suddenly going from worse to better than Biden by Biden dropping out reeks of manufactured consent and means they 100 percent are going to go for it and double dog dare you to do shit when they rig November.
This. They're just laying the groundwork for fraud and it's so blatantly obvious. The only saving grace right now is Reuters were jerking off Biden to the last and have always had Harris about tried with Trump. There is a small chance the Reuters poll is an outlier but I wouldn't count on it. Even if it is, I think we can expect Trump's lead over Harris to evaporate to 1 point or less.
 
I'm amazed Kiwis are paying attention to polls so much

Like...I wasn't here in 2016 but I thought everyone finally agreed that polls were bullshit after how everything shook out.

It doesn't mean that Trump *isn't* popular, but like...Hillary was *clearly* in the lead in polls leading up to 2016.

Pay attention to what the PEOPLE are saying, not what the media is telling you.
You'd have a point if and only if TPTB aren't willing to cheat. They will never allow another 2016 to happen again. They have said so themselves even. If the polls don't represent reality, they will make them represent reality.
 
This. They're just laying the groundwork for fraud and it's so blatantly obvious.
I think you're overreading this. The Democrats just got thrown into an extremely volatile situation. Their campaign was cratering in a historic fashion for the last month, and now they have to start a new campaign with a shit candidate and only 3 months to go. They're doing the only thing they can, churning through the war chest at break neck pace.

What else should they be doing in this scenario?
 
You'd have a point if and only if TPTB aren't willing to cheat. They will never allow another 2016 to happen again. They have said so themselves even. If the polls don't represent reality, they will make them represent reality.
My point is polls are pointless.

Ergo, if things are doomed no matter what, why are you even paying attention to polls, retard?
 
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