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Yeah the hatred of porn is almost exclusively due to the perception that the women in those videos aren’t as fat and ugly as they are. Anytime you hear about “ethical porn” (lmao), it’s always fat or otherwise sloppy looking bitches. Meanwhile a decade ago there were girls on social media talking about how hot guys like James Deen and Manuel Ferrara are. They can’t help what they’re attracted to, you see, but they should absolutely fuck fat bitches on video because a normal BMI is oppression. Werewolf gangbang novels are totally cool because they can just self-insert their fat asses into the novel.
I'm going to put forth the thought that porn's "saved" more marginal, dead bedroom marriages than it's destroyed. Not saying it's a good thing, but I think the heavy porn use is a more of a symptom of the fucked up relationship between the sexes, not the cause.

I’ve shared stories here where I’ve seen churches push single moms onto guys and attended a few of the weddings even. It was fucked up: trashy women with kids from different dads marrying some awkward dork in his 20s, many of which were veterans. This was after the meth epidemic so many of the moms got new teeth courtesy of the state. Loaded up with skanky tattoos, herpes and hepatitis. Moms who undoubtedly fucked and sucked for her next hit but that’s not fair to the moms, you shouldn’t judge, she’s found Jesus now.

Browsing Boomerbook shows these marriages only last a couple years. Meth moms who relapse or start cheating on their husbands because he doesn’t give her the tingles. Searching the names of the moms often shows them being frequent guests of the state after the divorce. If a church pushes a single mom or a “former” crank skank to you, it’s time to find a new church.
My mom's an actual Baby Boom Boomer, so there's some level of residual Feminism there and the default idea that single moms are the fault of "bad men." The thought that women are perfectly capable of doing dumb shit on their own is lost on her. It's not her first terrible human relationship take and it's why I think she's got a touch of the 'tism. I won't bring up the shit that happened when Kirk Cameron made that Fireproof movie, there was much retardation. Sperg Girls aren't like Tomboys but gamers guys, they're women but bad at the social things women are usually good at and not in a fun way.
 
I feel like Pick Me has kind of become like Karen in the sense that it used to have a distinct, specific meaning, but now has come to just mean "woman I disagree with."
There are definitely "Not Like Other Girls" type women out there who will do things like defend shitty male behavior and/or trash other women, but 9 times out of 10, I see Pick Me being used as shorthand for "XYZ is the Official Approved Woman Opinion, how dare you say ABC instead."

To me, the #1 red flag of a genuine Pick Me is how she tries to impress men by saying she can't stand other women. If you can't stand socializing with members of your own sex, that's not something to brag about. There's something wrong with you, not them. But yeah, I have noticed that man-hating fatties deem any woman who doesn't hate men as much as they do to be a "pick me."

The flip on porn is especially weird since it was one of the things heavily pushed by feminist from at least the 1990s onwards. And they even still support so called sex workers in polite society. So why porn suddenly turned into being the most evil thing to ever exist, I can't really explain.

Because men like it. I don't think they quite realized that the purpose of porn is to provide males with spank material in the 1990s. All they really noticed then is that their dads were against it, and Christians were super-against it, and in feminist logic, anything that pisses off your dad and your pastor is automatically something good. So for a while, porn was empowering and sex-positive and whatever.

Now it's been a while, all the women are fat, and the fact that men talk openly about porn these days makes them keenly aware that men are turned on by women who look nothing like them. They've also realized that porn "stars" don't have power over men, we just masturbate to their images and move on with our day. Moreover, porn's gotten to a place with Millennial and Zoomer men that they're a lot less interested in doing the dance to get a woman to open her legs, which reduces a woman's ability to get what she wants (cf. all those videos of crying 35-year-olds on TikTok). Porn is lower reward, but it's also much lower effort.

Now they're in this logically inconsistent place (hey, they're women) where signing up for OnlyFans is good because a woman chooses to do it (and it upsets her dad), but it's not fine for a man to sign up for the hottest-looking girl's feed. It's fine for a woman to dress like a whore and suck a stranger's dick, but it's not fine for a man to watch a video of a woman dressed like a whore, sucking a stranger's dick.
 
Man Up and Marry Those Sluts

I've said this before and I'll say it again. "Man Up" is truly one of the most feminine things a person could say.

I'm going to put forth the thought that porn's "saved" more marginal, dead bedroom marriages than it's destroyed. Not saying it's a good thing, but I think the heavy porn use is a more of a symptom of the fucked up relationship between the sexes, not the cause.

I am under the opinion that the traditionalists claim that porn destroys marriages is a cover for the actual issues in a marriage and a way to deflect any blame from women.
 
I've said this before and I'll say it again. "Man Up" is truly one of the most feminine things a person could say.
That really depends on situation. If someone wants something from you and use it - yes, absolutely. But when you are in a rut and just wallow in your own misery - it's a very different situation. Man up and fix your shit, not go "woe is me" swan song.
 
I am under the opinion that the traditionalists claim that porn destroys marriages is a cover for the actual issues in a marriage and a way to deflect any blame from women.
I think part of the problem is people conflate any kind of porn usage with being an addict.
There absolutely are marriages that suffer because of porn addiction or a spouse preferring porn and masturbation to actual intimacy, but I feel like, if a couple falls apart because of porn, that just speaks to deeper issues in the marriage that go way beyond just masturbation.
 
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My wife and I have dated for sixteen years, married for ten. At this point I feel like we've done everything we're ever likely to do in the bedroom. I use porn based on the old adage "it doesn't matter where you get your appetite, so long as you go home for your supper". And frankly, I don't even want my missus to do half the stuff I'm watching on xhamster, because if she did I wouldn't respect her.
 
Now they're in this logically inconsistent place (hey, they're women) where signing up for OnlyFans is good because a woman chooses to do it (and it upsets her dad), but it's not fine for a man to sign up for the hottest-looking girl's feed. It's fine for a woman to dress like a whore and suck a stranger's dick, but it's not fine for a man to watch a video of a woman dressed like a whore, sucking a stranger's dick.
Funniest part in all this honestly.

It doesn't even have to be Onlyfans. Tiktok, faceberg, instagram, all have sexy depictions of women in greater quantities than men's magazines could ever offer. They didn't have to be pressured by media companies - they filmed themselves dancing in a bikini and posing topless all for FREE and by their own volition.
 
Women dislike porn because it's competition for them. If a man's looking at porn, he's not trying to impress her or do stuff for her. That's it. Every other stated explanation for why women dislike porn is post-hoc at best. I don't think it's a coincidence that women started increasingly taking harsh stances against porn as they collectively balloon out into literal plapjaks that even the most desperate guys won't talk to. If it was fast fashion, hormonal birth control, cheap romance novels, Starbucks or whatever else they'd be making excuses for it, but because it's something primarily men like that women have no use for, women get to take the high ground on this issue.
 
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You know, with cases like these, women always end up trying to defend this behaviour because "guys want to fuck hot female criminals too!" However, I've noticed that there's one fundamental difference between men and women on this front that never gets brought up - men want to fuck them despite the fact that they're a criminal, and women want to fuck them because of the fact that they're a criminal.

By that, I mean that when men want to fuck female criminals, they're women that they'd want to fuck anyway. They'd prefer that she wasn't a criminal, but the fact that she is one isn't enough of a negative to deter them. You'll never see guys doing this for unattractive women.
Meanwhile, when women want to fuck male criminals, the fact that they're a criminal is an active plus to them. Whether it's because it means he's aggressive, socially-dominant, or exciting, it's seen as a positive - even if they do want to eventually "fix him". You'll get men who would otherwise never get the time of day from women who end up getting showered with love letters, nude photos and marriage proposals because they murdered a couple women or shot some schoolkids. Think like Adam Lanza, Patrick Crusius (aka the Chud), or any other unattractive male shooter/murderer.
 
I think part of the problem is people conflate any kind of porn usage with being an addict.
There absolutely are marriages that suffer because of porn addiction or a spouse preferring porn and masturbation to actual intimacy, but I feel like, if a couple falls apart because of porn, that just speaks to deeper issues in the marriage that go way beyond just masturbation.
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You know, with cases like these, women always end up trying to defend this behaviour because "guys want to fuck hot female criminals too!" However, I've noticed that there's one fundamental difference between men and women on this front that never gets brought up - men want to fuck them despite the fact that they're a criminal, and women want to fuck them because of the fact that they're a criminal.

By that, I mean that when men want to fuck female criminals, they're women that they'd want to fuck anyway. They'd prefer that she wasn't a criminal, but the fact that she is one isn't enough of a negative to deter them. You'll never see guys doing this for unattractive women.
Meanwhile, when women want to fuck male criminals, the fact that they're a criminal is an active plus to them. Whether it's because it means he's aggressive, socially-dominant, or exciting, it's seen as a positive - even if they do want to eventually "fix him". You'll get men who would otherwise never get the time of day from women who end up getting showered with love letters, nude photos and marriage proposals because they murdered a couple women or shot some schoolkids. Think like Adam Lanza, Patrick Crusius (aka the Chud), or any other unattractive male shooter/murderer.

They also equate a guy posting an image of a hot murderess on a forum and saying "I can fix her 🤤🤤😍🥰" with a woman actually writing love letters to a psychopath, waiting until he gets out of prison, meeting him, and promptly getting raped and/or murdered.
 
Are y'all having the "porn is bad"discussion? On one hand it's been around since the days our ancient ancestors were cave painting but at present it's simply too freely available to everyone, but especially children. I'm not trying to start an argument on the subject but there's a lot wrong with it, and it's not because it shows nekkid women or couples having sex; in fact that's the least immoral thing about it. It's disingenuous to say there's nothing wrong with porn and the porn industry.

Female gooning stems in part from the skewed perception third wave feminists have about male sexuality and their belief female empowerment depends on emulating every aspect of male behavior, good and/or bad; thus, you have female predatory behavior towards men, other women and children. Prostitution and pornography are also seen as empowering women when almost always it's degrading, dehumanizing and harmful, mentally and physically. This is infinitely more harmful to society than men's girly magazines that aren't pornographic.
 
Are y'all having the "porn is bad"discussion?
I think we should ban all porn, even softcore nude stuff, until we figure out what's going on. Maybe like 5 yrs+?
I am 110% turbocertain that moids will become pacified and less "porn sick", and violence against women will evaporate. These neckbeards furiously masturbating 5 hrs/day will become model citizens and women respecters the likes of which this site never encountered.
Let's test it - for science!
 
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Seriously why do they love using John Moneyisms so much? Le gender this, le gender that, le identity, le roles, le stereotypes, le con/nonconformity this and that yadda yadda yadda, like fuuuuck :stress:
They will deride troons and go off about how "gender non conforming" they are in the same breath. It's wild.
 
I think part of the problem is people conflate any kind of porn usage with being an addict.
There absolutely are marriages that suffer because of porn addiction or a spouse preferring porn and masturbation to actual intimacy, but I feel like, if a couple falls apart because of porn, that just speaks to deeper issues in the marriage that go way beyond just masturbation.
Theres simply no such thing as porn addiction. Hardly any men go into debt for it or ruin their life like drug addicts or gamblers. Nobody points a gun at you and wants your money for a Premoum Pornhub account.
There are, however, examples of men killing their entire family for someone pretending to be their girlfriend online.
 
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