Alex Rosen / Chet Goldstein / Gordon Flowers / Predator Poachers USA - Pedophile hunter using children and his own nudes as bait, racist pranks, infamously botched the EDP445 case

Honestly, if someone is immediately shooting themselves after getting caught in a stings like this, they don't really deserve the benefit of the doubt. Such impulsive suicide speaks to a deeply guilty conscious that was already willing to die at any moment due to how empty their soul was. I haven't seen a proper example of an innocent person pulling this kind of deadly stunt when faced with such extreme accusations. It's not like Damien Echols shied way from his long fight for freedom and innocence.
Echols would have been a school shooter if he was born a couple years later just go through his medical records.
 
It's important to recognize that entrapment is not something a lot of the predators can argue, as they at minimum, are very often capable of recognizing that what they are partaking in, is illegal. They may not know entirely why it is, but if they know what they're doing is not allowed, they are being irresponsible under their own volition. Someone who is not capable of knowing why its illegal may have been entrapped, (or is mentally incompetent) likely because they did not know the age or were coaxed into believing its not illegal.
If they can prove that they recognize what they're doing is wrong/illegal, then that person is responsible and its not a victim of entrapment. If you want to give sympathy to someone who has pedophilic ideations, don't offer it to those who understand its wrong and still predate.
 
It's important to recognize that entrapment is not something a lot of the predators can argue, as they at minimum, are very often capable of recognizing that what they are partaking in
They will just answer that entrapment can only be done by law enforcement according to the law so this is not entrapment.

Completely ignoring the fact entrapment does not include civilians because the lawmakers did not imagine civilians would trap each other like that.

The main problem with pred catcher is that the law does not allow them to be effective even when they are perfectly professional.

Imagine a pred sends a video of him raping his infant daughter with his face showing and even showing his Id because he's a perverted freak.

What's the only thing the catcher can do? Erase the video and the evidence since he can't save CP. Peverted justice most likely had a ton of Cp on their hard drives because they exploded when the judge asked for them.

Hansen began to target the elite, that's why they shut it down IMO.
Nah it's because they completely botched the catch and got nailed by the law suit.

They went to his house because they knew it was a big catch. They never did this for anyone else and it was the less grave offense by a pred on the show.
They just went overboard because they are greedy and wanted to catch a big fish. The police department was corrupt and conniving so they were fully on board.

There's no reason to go that far and take that much risk for that peticular pred unless fame and money is your priority no protecting children.
 
This is what happened to To Catch A Predator, ended the show forever
i don't know why they would end the show over that. personally i think ending every episode of the show with a pedos doming themselves would be a great feature of the broadcast. gives it a nice uplifting note to end on each week.

I assume the pedo hunters walked not long after that photo was taken. what would they even be charged with? being in the vicinity of a pedo when he swallowed a bullet? lol
 
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The main problem with pred catcher is that the law does not allow them to be effective even when they are perfectly professional.
I don't think thats entirely true, a lot of the time people who do this don't seem to send CP, and if they did the hunter should be able to contact law enforcement and have them conduct a search as they are usually working with law enforcement when they plan to go meet up for a detainment.
I dont think law enforcement can really do anything better or more effective than the hunters who know what evidence they need to gather, as the only thing they're limited in is holding CP as evidence themselves.
The entrapment argument can be invoked if the predator can prove that they were never told the age or that they did not genuinely realize what they were doing was illegal.
 
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I mean, you kind of talked yourself into a corner where others are now going to be curious as to whether your "general location" is a pedophile's house, or if you're so autistically contrarian as to decide the criminal pedophiles of the world need you to stick up for them just because people care enough to bust them. That isn't really the kind of thing a normal person puts themselves in a position to be apologizing for. So uh...good luck!
Oh knock it off. He expressed it with great autism but advocating for due process isn't something we should discourage. Calling him a pedo for raising a legitimate question just proves his point.

What's the only thing the catcher can do? Erase the video and the evidence since he can't save CP. Peverted justice most likely had a ton of Cp on their hard drives because they exploded when the judge asked for them.
Usually there's an exception for that when it's being delivered as evidence. Otherwise the local Geek Squad would be guilty of CP possession every time some idiot brought in a PC for service that turns out to be filled with the stuff.

Finding cocaine on a junkie who crashed overnight in your back yard doesn't make you guilty of drug possession because you happened to have access to it when you reported it.
 
Using a pedo killing themselves to shill their x account is just in bad taste.

This is why I don't like these vigilante pedo hunters, they are all media attention obsessed and do it for views as much as 'justice.' All they're doing is getting in the way of the legal process at best or can just scream 'this guy is a pedophile' and get no actual criminal punishment against him. Yeah this guy is a pedo, fuck him he deserved life in jail or death penalty. But his family/friends are all going to have to deal with the consequences of this media shitshow while this grifter gets to shill his X account on his grave and continue his Chris Hansen larp.

This same shit ruined Chris Hansen's predator hunter show because he was so insistent on getting a pedo's face on tv for money and views he spooked the guy into killing himself and made him and his team liable and interfered with police. This stuff does matter and fucking it up will get you sued, lose your business and the guilty pedophile possibly exonerated of crime for fucking up the case.

Also I'm sorry but I have to say, this is a shitty fucking precedent. Absolutely there was a high 99 percent chance this guy was guilty as sin and should've had the book thrown at him. But there's a non zero chance he wasn't, and that's something that a court of law exists to prevent as best as it can. This is why vigilante justice isn't fucking good, and there will be a ton of edgy unserious retards who want to Batman larp but there's a whole reason why the law exists. It's to protect the innocent with precedents, and no going over to people's houses to go 'ur a pedophile' and sounding like an idiot is not a legal case. This is the same energy of people accusing everyone of sexism and racism and making everything a court of public opinion and he said/she said bullshit.

Also to repeat, it's just in bad fucking taste. Yeah the guy is a pedo and fucked up beyond belief but even death row inmates worst of the worst get a last meal and a prayer before they go with SOME dignity. inb4 a bunch of people go 'pedos face the wall' none of you guys have the balls to look and shoot someone in the face or understand the damage even killing or causing suicide of evil and deserving as shit people can do to your psyche. You are all internet tough guys who would absolutely call police on a suspected pedo and let them handle it instead of going to your gun if this happened to you so stfu with your edgelord larp.

Anyways, give me reddit downvotes for my angry spergpost.
This is why vigilantism like this is dangerous, and it hurts actual victims, as well as botching up cases, even if they are somehow solid. This type of job should be left to professionals who know what they're doing, and not to a bunch of jokers hoping to get clicks and views.
 
I didn't really want to admit it here, but I think I'm just autistic. I ignored the voice in my head telling me to think about that post before hitting reply this time. I'll stop digging my hole now.
Ah, it's ok. It was just your autism, you were probably drunk and it was a Tuesday. We're all sure you were just joking when sperging your defense of diddlers.
 
The main problem with pred catcher is that the law does not allow them to be effective even when they are perfectly professional.
That is 100% untrue. Just talking about this channel alone they’ve managed to get convictions over half the states in the nation and arrests in 48/50 - would have been 49 yesterday but he did the super slide before he could be arrested. And we aren’t taking 3-6 month bids, we are talking about people serving life.
Imagine a pred sends a video of him raping his infant daughter with his face showing and even showing his Id because he's a perverted freak.

What's the only thing the catcher can do? Erase the video and the evidence since he can't save CP. Peverted justice most likely had a ton of Cp on their hard drives because they exploded when the judge asked for them.
That’s why they use telegram. The content is pushed to their phone, no downloading is done. It’s a passive action. If that happens they simply contact law enforcement and hand over the burner phone. The content being deleted would be a crime, turning over the phone is not and it’s been used to get convictions.

And this is just one team. There are thousands of arrests and convictions nationwide between them all.

That’s thousands of pedos who would be on the street otherwise. Let them grift and make fun of pedos, I couldn’t care less, as long as justice is getting done.
 
That's a fair point, I feel as though Alex Rosen/Predator Poachers are one of the few groups doing it right, focusing on accumulating evidence, eliciting confessions, etc.
I’m sure this isn’t an original take but I always feel like after they severely dropped the ball on the whole EDP confrontation thing, they really just got their shit together and then made sure they wouldn’t let their catches slip away that easily. I want to say that they’re compensating or “making up for” that one mistake, but I don’t want to make it sound like I’m pedo-sympathetic when I say “compensating”.

It’s honestly a good thing they’re doing even if Alex is a little annoying about it at times. Whenever I would watch one of their videos and they get a pedo to admit they have CP on their phone, then show that footage to the cops or they tell them in front of the cops “oh and you’re gonna make sure you get that child porn off your phone, right?” to me it’s like a killshot. Even if they aren’t soliciting actual minors, getting these degenerates locked up for possession of CP goes a long way to exposing how widespread and unfortunately common these types are in every city.
 
I want to say that they’re compensating or “making up for” that one mistake,
What a strange way to reframe growth through experience. When these pedohunters were on their first hundred catches, the criticisms were somewhat sound and understandable. But it is hard to say that they have not become better at what they do, each time. You would too, wouldn't you?

WRT "dropping the ball", that is another weird choice of words, when you may be the only a-log painting the singular goal as having EDP in a cage for 10+ years. They publicized his degeneracy adequately for me.
 
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What a strange way to reframe growth through experience. When these pedohunters were on their first hundred catches, the criticisms were somewhat sound and understandable. But it is hard to say that they have not become better at what they do, each time. You would too, wouldn't you?

WRT "dropping the ball", that is another weird choice of words, when you may be the only a-log painting the singular goal as having EDP in a cage for 10+ years. They publicized his degeneracy adequately for me.
I’m not aylawgging. Stop being autistic. Read my post again. I literally give them $20/mo on Locals because they’re doing a good thing in the world and I’m not a brokie bish.
 
He went to a soy soycence Doctor's home to harass him because he did not want to debate Joe Rogan.
That was the first I had ever heard of him, still pretty shocked he didn't get in serious trouble over that. Only confronting right wingers at their homes are allowed, and if you do confront a left winger.. you better hope they are poor!!
This was huge news for a week and i'm still not sure how it didn't fuck alex over more.
 
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