The Linux Thread - The Autist's OS of Choice

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Overly Serious said:
My Windows 10 box keeps popping up messages about reaching the end of support and though little practical will change when it goes out, it's tipping me over to come back to Linux for my main box. I don't game so that's a major tie to Windows I don't have. I do prefer Windows generally but Microsoft do their utmost to fuck it up with ads and privacy concerns and refusing to move on from NTFS's limitations. I'm fairly comfortable on Linux. Started off with SuSE back in the pre-Ubuntu days, moved to Gentoo then ended up with Kubuntu for a while before moving to Windows when Windows 8 came out.

I shall probably go with Debian as I'm used to it and stick KDE on there. Maybe xfce as that used to be DE of preference but the box is powerful and I can afford a little extra load.

Anyway, any particular new hotness whilst I've been away that would change this? Any reason I should go for a different distro or DE? Priorities are stability and the slickest possible UI experience.
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I personally really like xfce even when you dont need to worry about slimming down for performance. Its just a really stable, practical DE.

Cosmic desktop is in alpha (or about to be). Wouldnt recommend that until its officially released. But should be decent once its ready.

Otherwise everythings similar. Mate is a decent choice. Cinammon isnt bad either. I might actually throw that on something to try the new version. Probably wont stick with it. Since i really like my tiling window mananger.

Distros. Probably nearly the same as before. If you think you want debian thats probably a good choice.

As far as windows. Windows 11 was what got me to move to linux. I hadnt had a computer for years. Just used phones. Since like windows 7 or 8 days. Finally got around to getting another. It had windows 11, and was immediately put off, by having to go online make a windows account etc just to start using it. Then the rest of it confirmed for me I was done with windows.
 
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Overly Serious said:
My Windows 10 box keeps popping up messages about reaching the end of support and though little practical will change when it goes out, it's tipping me over to come back to Linux for my main box. I don't game so that's a major tie to Windows I don't have. I do prefer Windows generally but Microsoft do their utmost to fuck it up with ads and privacy concerns and refusing to move on from NTFS's limitations. I'm fairly comfortable on Linux. Started off with SuSE back in the pre-Ubuntu days, moved to Gentoo then ended up with Kubuntu for a while before moving to Windows when Windows 8 came out.

I shall probably go with Debian as I'm used to it and stick KDE on there. Maybe xfce as that used to be DE of preference but the box is powerful and I can afford a little extra load.

Anyway, any particular new hotness whilst I've been away that would change this? Any reason I should go for a different distro or DE? Priorities are stability and the slickest possible UI experience.
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Cinnamon is probably the easiest slick UI to get actually working in Debian if you're migrating from Windows.
There's actually a nice repo of prebuilt Debian images with a whole lot of different desktop environments here if you want to fire up virtualbox and test out what works best for you. Just remember to set any VMs to 64-bit since that's what all the images are written for.
 
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@prollyanotherlurker You actually can use W11 with a local account but they hide it and there are other reasons to dislike W11 too or I wouldn't be here. Thanks for the recommendations. I'll look at Cosmic but for curiosity, not as a contender if it's currently only in alpha. Mate I have no experience of. Cinammon I liked when I used it on Mint. If it's solidly stable might go with that. I used to use xfce all the time but there are little niggles with it unless it's improved since. Like edge detection on windows when I scale them. Little things like that. It'll be running on some pretty good hardware so I'm happy enough to have something flashier so long as it's stable.

Absolutego said:
Cinnamon is probably the easiest slick UI to get actually working in Debian if you're migrating from Windows.
There's actually a nice repo of prebuilt Debian images with a whole lot of different desktop environments here if you want to fire up virtualbox and test out what works best for you. Just remember to set any VMs to 64-bit since that's what all the images are written for.
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Hey, thanks. Convenient, might do that, thanks.

StealingElectricity said:
The only reason I prefer KDE is because of the built-in screen drawing mechanism
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Like for screenshots or something?
 
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Overly Serious said:
I shall probably go with Debian as I'm used to it and stick KDE on there. Maybe xfce as that used to be DE of preference but the box is powerful and I can afford a little extra load.
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Well if you want KDE, Debian might not be the best choice. I've never heard the greatest reviews of it.

https://tracker.debian.org/pkg/plasma-desktop It's also still on 5.27 in unstable. Unless you don't really care, in which case nevermind.

xfce is always my go-to for a full DE that works everywhere and has nice and easy themes.
Arch (and Endeavour and Cachy) and openSuSE seem to have the best KDE support out of the box. Maybe going back to openSuSE is the play?
 
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prollyanotherlurker said:

Cmon guys we can do better. He isn't even crying.

Also on the drawing thing. There are screenshot tools like flameshot, and another i forget. That let you do that
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i'm not sure if he's talking about taking a screenshot first or just drawing on the screen directly like it's a Smart Board
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Betonhaus said:
i'm not sure if he's talking about taking a screenshot first or just drawing on the screen directly like it's a Smart Board
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My assumption was that it was just the KDE desktop effect Mouse Mark. If you turn it on you can draw on the screen by holding Shift+Meta and moving the mouse. Shift+Meta+F12 clears it.
 
Punished Derich said:
That guy tries pretty hard to be the centrist of the desktop linux space, if you look at his coverage of the GNUboot and Hyprland debacles and that he has refused to denounce Lunduke shows he at least presents an image of apolitical-ness.
If anything, his politics are the least troubling thing about him! I made an account on his Locals (lel) thing to watch the free episodes of Linux sucks and he has been spamming that throwaway trying to hock me reduced yearly memberships for years at this point, I don't know if his shameless not-substack shilling and has a very odd cadence of speak that a particular type of guy has that I can't put my finger on. Unlike a lot of commentators he isn't autistic, though. He does have a pretty good niche opened up now now that it seems like Luke Smith is living the Uncle Ted life.
Whether his position is overblown or not, in addition to Gnome, he also has a no-mention policy in OpenSUSE and Haiku.
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Brody seems like a pretty decent guy who just cares about the tech and doesn't want to deal with the bullshit drama. Unfortunately, the source of these issues is very one sided and intolerant, which means he will probably get caught in the crossfire. He can tell Drew Devault and Vaxry to talk things over all he wants, but Drew Devault started it and has no desire to smooth things over because he's a massive faggot. If you just care about the tech you will inevitably have to take a stand or suck off some troon, they don't allow you to have peace.
 
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Funtoo is kill apparently. This is if the discord post by the host of the project is to be trusted. No news posted on the distro's own site unusually.dkfigghocoed1.png

Speaking of which, anyone have any opinions on pipewire? I'd rather not add more to my dependency hell.
Also, I have been itching to run slackware again. Someone give me a reason not to ruin my life please.

prollyanotherlurker said:

Cmon guys we can do better. He isn't even crying.

Also on the drawing thing. There are screenshot tools like flameshot, and another i forget. That let you do that
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>Binding of Issac
>Mac logo
Yeah, that fits.
>Expecting kid gloves on the internet
Opinion is discarded.
>EMO-TION-AL DAM-AGE
Kill yourself now.
 
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Funtoo is kill apparently. This is if the discord post by the host of the project is to be trusted. No news posted on the distro's own site unusually.dkfigghocoed1.png
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Funtoo is similar to Gentoo, but take heed -- it is also different! Our distinctives all stem from our different approach to community. If you are new to Funtoo, please familiarize yourself with Funtoo's Wolf Pack Philosophy. It will help you to understand what Funtoo is all about. And the second half of the page will explain some key technical differences in comparison to Gentoo.
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Wolf Pack Philosophy​

The philosophy of the Funtoo community can best be described using the analogy of a wolf pack. In the Funtoo community, we are all users of Funtoo. Even the BDFL considers himself to be a user of Funtoo, first and foremost. Sometimes, we may put on our 'developer hat' and contribute and improvement or bug fix to Funtoo Linux, but we never lose our connection to the reality that we are users of Funtoo. That keeps us grounded, and is important, because as users we are focused on the experience of using Funtoo Linux, and we, like a wolf pack, are a community of users participating in a shared experience. Our technical development work and documentation is always centered around improving this shared experience.

Below, you will learn the philosophy of how our pack functions, which will assist you in becoming a happy and productive wolf.

As a wolf, a member of the Funtoo user community:

Is Authentic: Since Funtoo is a source-based meta-distribution and packages are built with Portage, we exist in the living wilderness, among raw creative energy of the wild free software ecosystem. Like a wolf, our connection to the vibrant and sustaining open source wilderness is tangible and real. We avoid the over-developed, sanitized, isolated and boring pre-packaged world where disconnected users simply ‘consume’ what was pre-made for them, preferring the more authentic and connected life where we are in control of our destiny.

Is Mindful of the Pack: The pack are our fellow users. We support one another and look out for each other by roaming together. As we find challenges, we tackle them as a community. We understand that helping the pack helps us all. We are always actively trying to find common paths that we share, and cultivate these paths together. This is why at every attempt we will use community profile settings and keep our /etc/make.conf free of local customizations. By roaming together, we make the experience better for all.

Is Interconnected: Beyond simple acknowledgement of the pack on an intellectual level, our connection to the pack is wired into our consciousness and awareness. We stay in the moment, continually receiving and sending signals to the rest of the pack so that we can function as one logical entity. We instinctively support each other as we are called into action by coordinating and aligning our actions. Younger members are supported by guidance by more senior pack members. By internalizing these behaviors within ourselves, the entire pack is supported and functions with a capability that is beyond the sum of its individual members.

Is Selective: Sometimes another Open Source project will drop some turd in our wilderness, and it might be so big that it’s really hard not to step in. When this happens, we will be very careful not to step in it, and we will certainly not eat this poop and make it part of Funtoo! The most obvious example is systemd. We won’t eat a dead carcass just because some upstream project threw some tempting rotten flesh in our path. It may sustain us for a while, but it’s not optimal for us. Let’s find the optimal solution. We would rather hunt...

Hunts: We are truly satiated only by those solutions that truly reflect our deeply-held values -- we want good technology, and if we can’t easily find any, we will hunt for it ourselves. Our hunger is tangible and deep. We’ll automate everything, so we can spend more time in the hunt, developing innovative technology. We hunt to live, and live to hunt. We’ll put in the work to get the good stuff, even if it gets messy and requires investing our time and raw creative energy. If we don’t have time to hunt, we will find a way to make time. Wolves that don’t hunt are domesticated pets.

Is Territorial: We welcome all, but we are keenly aware of the scope of the territory we patrol. We take ownership of our territory, but we don’t bite off more than we can chew. We know what parts of the Libre forest are fully in our grasp, and what parts we do not have the wolf-power to properly manage. We will claim new territory only as our pack grows, all the while ensuring that the territory we currently hold is kept secure. Continuous improvement -- building our territory thoughtfully without losing ground -- is what we’re all about.

Owns their Shit: As wolves, we sometimes make technical and other kinds of mistakes. That is part of life, and a mistake in and of itself is not something to get upset about. But if you make a mistake that impacts others, the pack expects you to be transparent about it, let the proper wolves know as soon as possible, and be available and engaged to help clean it up. If you don't do this, then the pack may get legitimately upset with you. A responsible wolf owns their shit.

Howls: We encourage each wolf in our pack to howl and express their personal desires and needs, especially on our bug tracker. Your passion and personal journey is what we care about, not what some bunny did in some random hole last Thursday. It’s all about sharing your own adventures with the pack, so that we can understand and be enriched by them, and support you better.
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I think reading this wolf thing gave me brain cancer
 
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Came back to Linux after retargeting my game from Windows to HTML5 (and from C99 to my own autistic subset of C++20... long story). Arch+Hyprland is so comfy bros but all this FOSS governance crap hurts my head. Maybe Jonathan Blow was right.
 
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WULULULULU said:
Looks like Proton and Wine were acting out of retardation because my second SSD was NTFS instead of EXT4.
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I've had Proton working fine launching games from NTFS formatted volumes but you have to be careful, some games (looking at you ARMA 3) are programmed assuming your operating system doesn't care about case in filenames, you can add the option ignore_case when mounting an NTFS volume and it usually makes it work. There's also a thing specifically with Steam where it tries creating a directory with a name that is illegal under NTFS, there's a workaround for this too but I forgot what it was.
 
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